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Wednesday Oct 28 | Posted by: Upfront Yankee

Tale of two languages - Bilingual New Britain, Conn. - New Britain Herald - 26/10/09

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Photo: Chris Richie | Staff Salesman Nelson Rodriguez at Acme Appliance on Arch St. in New Britain. Rodriquez is Puerto Rican and like many of New Britain's Hispanic population is bilingual. (10/22/09) NEW BRITAIN — In past generations, many Hispanics, like other ethnic groups, arrive at America’s mainland speaking another language and struggling to communicate in an English-dominated society. Although Spanish is the second most spoken language in the country, many Hispanics feel they are not only losing their ability to speak their native language, but also assimilating to an all-American English-based culture. America has been known as the melting pot, where its shores have welcomed people of various cultures and dialects. English is spoken by 82.1 percent of the population and Spanish is the country’s second most spoken language by 10.7 percent even though Hispanics account for 15.1 percent of the total population, according to the U.S. Census bureau. However, many Latinos in the city feel that although their Hispanic culture is very important to them, it is slipping away along with their ability to speak Spanish. Julissa Rivera, a preschool teacher, mother and a student, was born in Guanica, Puerto Rico. Her grandmother help move the family to New York when Rivera was 3. She is a fluent English and Spanish speaker because growing up, her relatives spoke Spanish while everyone in her community spoke English. “There was a large Hispanic population in New York so it wasn’t hard for my mother to find work in her native language,” Rivera said. “So learning English wasn’t pushed on her so much as it was for us. I had to be in bilingual education and I had to learn English. It felt good to know two languages but I still get comments about my accent.” As much as she is proud of her Latin roots and even tries to visit Puerto Rico from time to time, Rivera admits the visits are few and far between and because she speaks almost exclusively English her children speak very little, if any, Spanish. In a world that is becoming more multi-lingual, Rivera said her children are at a disadvantage both cultural and economically. “It’s sad to say but they speak Spanish slightly,” River said. “That’s too bad because knowing two languages, people want to hire you.” [Open link for full story.]

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“I am 100 percent Puerto Rican and speak both English and Spanish fluently,” Caraballo said.“Some people don’t want to hear about Puerto Rico because of the political issues or the job situation. They leave and want to forget about it. But I think many people love and respect where they come from and want to keep that alive.” Madeline Cosme is a native of New Britain who although she has Puerto Rican roots said she has no desire to ever visit her ancestral homeland. Cosme retains her Spanish speaking ability because she has had to be a translator for her family. However, she admits English is her dominate language and none of her children speak Spanish.

“It was common that the American born generation spoke mostly English. It’s all around us and it’s a plus to be able to help others who can’t still speak English,” Cosme said.“I’m proud of my culture and where I’m from but I’m American. I don’t ever want to go to Puerto Rico. It’s just not for me.”

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Stateside Puerto Ricans ask who wants to leave the fifty states where there is government by the people, of the people and for the people. It is the "Promised Land" of opportunities.

Puerto Rico is becoming government by the private corporations, of the private corporations and for the private corporations.

It is a comment refrain by stateside Puerto Ricans that Puerto Rico is different today from years ago. Everthing is for the private interests rather than for the public good or people.

Is the "Enchanted Island" becoming disenchanted?

Many of these corporate contractors for privatization are not American citizens. They are foreign and located in foreign countries as are the owners of Caribbean Petroleum Corporation. They also buy political officials as the drug companies have done.

What's going on? Are we outsourcing our government as George W. Bush outsourced our manufacturing jobs? Is our government being sold to the highest campain givers?


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Is Conn. one of the "English only" states?

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“I am 100 percent Puerto Rican and speak both English and Spanish fluently,” Caraballo said.“Some people don’t want to hear about Puerto Rico because of the political issues or the job situation. They leave and want to forget about it. But I think many people love and respect where they come from and want to keep that alive.” Madeline Cosme is a native of New Britain who although she has Puerto Rican roots said she has no desire to ever visit her ancestral homeland. Cosme retains her Spanish speaking ability because she has had to be a translator for her family. However, she admits English is her dominate language and none of her children speak Spanish.
“It was common that the American born generation spoke mostly English. It’s all around us and it’s a plus to be able to help others who can’t still speak English,” Cosme said.“I’m proud of my culture and where I’m from but I’m American. I don’t ever want to go to Puerto Rico. It’s just not for me.”
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Stateside Puerto Ricans ask who wants to leave the fifty states where there is government by the people, of the people and for the people. It is the "Promised Land" of opportunities.
Puerto Rico is becoming government by the private corporations, of the private corporations and for the private corporations.
It is a comment refrain by stateside Puerto Ricans that Puerto Rico is different today from years ago. Everthing is for the private interests rather than for the public good or people.
Is the "Enchanted Island" becoming disenchanted?
Many of these corporate contractors for privatization are not American citizens. They are foreign and located in foreign countries as are the owners of Caribbean Petroleum Corporation. They also buy political officials as the drug companies have done.
What's going on? Are we outsourcing our government as George W. Bush outsourced our manufacturing jobs? Is our government being sold to the highest campain givers?
Dont think PR is private ''yet''. The bloated government of the past 2 decades have destroyed the government bond rating on Puerto Rico from being rated ''AAA'', to being now just above ''junk'' status due to the government borrowing and spending too much to support the ''pig'' we call the Puerto Rican government.

Why Puerto Ricans leave to the USA are for jobs, not just in the government sector, but also in the ''private'' sector you seem to demonize. As the Puerto Rican govt, lost its way, people dont feel safe in the island, investors dont feel that PR is a safe place to invest. If you dont think so, look at what has happened in the last 2 weeks in the island.

Look at the banks of Puerto Rico since January of 2005,,,all have gone down, way before the economic earthquake of late 2008! Look, give anything to the Puerto Rican govt, they always seem to destroy it. Ex. Tren Urbano! just for starters

People lost its confidence in the island, and a bigger govt to have people employed even as they sit on their butts, dont make it better, just keeps destroying the bond rating of Puerto Rico further.

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TJM wrote:
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Dont think PR is private ''yet''. The bloated government of the past 2 decades have destroyed the government bond rating on Puerto Rico from being rated ''AAA'', to being now just above ''junk'' status due to the government borrowing and spending too much to support the ''pig'' we call the Puerto Rican government.
Why Puerto Ricans leave to the USA are for jobs, not just in the government sector, but also in the ''private'' sector you seem to demonize. As the Puerto Rican govt, lost its way, people dont feel safe in the island, investors dont feel that PR is a safe place to invest. If you dont think so, look at what has happened in the last 2 weeks in the island.
Look at the banks of Puerto Rico since January of 2005,,,all have gone down, way before the economic earthquake of late 2008! Look, give anything to the Puerto Rican govt, they always seem to destroy it. Ex. Tren Urbano! just for starters
People lost its confidence in the island, and a bigger govt to have people employed even as they sit on their butts, dont make it better, just keeps destroying the bond rating of Puerto Rico further.
You never seem to see anything positive about Puerto Rico, all you see and speak about is of the negative and negative only.

You are a false prophet of doom.

You are the most negative person I have ever met in Topix. Many of the things you say can be true, but not to the extent you exaggerate and put Puerto Rico down so much. Why age all of us with you only "Negatives rhetorics" when we can all live a much longer and healthier life with "ALSO POSITIVES, that Puerto Rico still has and always will have, but without you there????."
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<quoted text>You never seem to see anything positive about Puerto Rico, all you see and speak about is of the negative and negative only.
You are a false prophet of doom.
You are the most negative person I have ever met in Topix. Many of the things you say can be true, but not to the extent you exaggerate and put Puerto Rico down so much. Why age all of us with you only "Negatives rhetorics" when we can all live a much longer and healthier life with "ALSO POSITIVES, that Puerto Rico still has and always will have, but without you there????."
OMG! Dave,,,you said all that without saying a mean or dirty word!!

INCREDIBLE!! There is hope for you!
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Do your own due dilegence of what I wrote. The bond rating of PR, the bloated govt that the debt of PR equals the GDP of the island @ 101%.

The banks stocks of the island, the lack of confidence in the island.

These are all facts,,,dont put your head in the sand. If you do that, then really you dont love or want to save PR.
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That's why Puerto Rican who are pushing for english speaking in Puerto Rico are complete idiots. In 2012 Latinos will be the majority those idiots! IN puerto rico don't know **** they are shifting us the wrong way. That doesn't only go to language but politics as well. Puerto Rico being a colony is old damn we in the 21 century and these idiots still have puerto rican people not being able to vote for a president. second class citizen ****. pathetic just pathetic puerto rico should be moving to become fully independent from America period . we want to deal with America we set the norm! not america set the norm on us.
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Puerto Rico is beatiful. Great beaches, views, but they have a govt bent on or have destroyed it!

face the facts,,,thing is, it is happening in the USA too! I wont hide that fact. We as people have to see this before the Chinese own our butts.

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OMG! Dave,,,you said all that without saying a mean or dirty word!!
INCREDIBLE!! There is hope for you!
But it seems to me that there is none for you though. You need help.

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TJM wrote:
Puerto Rico is beatiful. Great beaches, views, but they have a govt bent on or have destroyed it!
face the facts,,,thing is, it is happening in the USA too! I wont hide that fact. We as people have to see this before the Chinese own our butts.
Learn Chinese, they already own us...according to negative you...
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<quoted text>You never seem to see anything positive about Puerto Rico, all you see and speak about is of the negative and negative only.
You are a false prophet of doom.
You are the most negative person I have ever met in Topix. Many of the things you say can be true, but not to the extent you exaggerate and put Puerto Rico down so much. Why age all of us with you only "Negatives rhetorics" when we can all live a much longer and healthier life with "ALSO POSITIVES, that Puerto Rico still has and always will have, but without you there????."
Dave, he lacks perspective. Bank failures are the norm for the U.S. economy in general. The biggest banks and investment corporations in the nation (largely responsible for the recession and the economic mess) have taken billions in Federal aid to avoid bankruptcy. Banks are failing weekly in the U.S. More banks have failed this year than any other year since 1992. This is all due to extremely irresponsible lending practices.

When the U.S. economy sneezes Puerto Rico gets the flu. Banks in PR are not immune to the tough economic times, especially since the Puerto Rican recession started 3 years ahead of the U.S. recession.

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Dave, he lacks perspective. Bank failures are the norm for the U.S. economy in general. The biggest banks and investment corporations in the nation (largely responsible for the recession and the economic mess) have taken billions in Federal aid to avoid bankruptcy. Banks are failing weekly in the U.S. More banks have failed this year than any other year since 1992. This is all due to extremely irresponsible lending practices.
When the U.S. economy sneezes Puerto Rico gets the flu. Banks in PR are not immune to the tough economic times, especially since the Puerto Rican recession started 3 years ahead of the U.S. recession.
When you explain it, as you just did, it sounds like a very balanced and rational observation and an intelligent opinion as well too that I must agree with you all the way. But when this very negative TJM speaks, it is all one sided to the negative only, and this is where I lose it with him and have no respect for any of his exaggerated opinions whatsoever.

Keep up the good work, my good intelligent Boricua friend...
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TJM wrote:
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Dont think PR is private ''yet''. The bloated government of the past 2 decades have destroyed the government bond rating on Puerto Rico from being rated ''AAA'', to being now just above ''junk'' status due to the government borrowing and spending too much to support the ''pig'' we call the Puerto Rican government.
Why Puerto Ricans leave to the USA are for jobs, not just in the government sector, but also in the ''private'' sector you seem to demonize. As the Puerto Rican govt, lost its way, people dont feel safe in the island, investors dont feel that PR is a safe place to invest. If you dont think so, look at what has happened in the last 2 weeks in the island.
Look at the banks of Puerto Rico since January of 2005,,,all have gone down, way before the economic earthquake of late 2008! Look, give anything to the Puerto Rican govt, they always seem to destroy it. Ex. Tren Urbano! just for starters
People lost its confidence in the island, and a bigger govt to have people employed even as they sit on their butts, dont make it better, just keeps destroying the bond rating of Puerto Rico further.
What happened in 1989 that: "...the Puerto Rican govt. lost its way,...that people don't feel safe in the island, investors don't feel that P.R. is a safe place to invest...; people lost its confidence in the island..."?

Of those 20 years (since 1989 to 2009) the pro "associate state" party administrated the government for 12 years.

What happened to the economy, the PDP created and build (since the 1940's)?

What caused that party to:

"loose its way"?

to make the island "an unsafe place for its people and investors"?

What did those administrations do that "people lost its confidence in the island"?

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Who really governs in Puerto Rico, the govt. or Moody's Investors Service, Standard and Poor's, JP Morgan or other credit markets?

If so, what should the Puerto Rican people ought to do?

What are the PDP's economic propositions?

Jorge de P.Rico
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Jorge wrote:
Who really governs in Puerto Rico, the govt. or Moody's Investors Service, Standard and Poor's, JP Morgan or other credit markets?
If so, what should the Puerto Rican people ought to do?
What are the PDP's economic propositions?
Jorge de P.Rico
The big secret in Puerto Rico is that people and corporations who own property never pay property taxes. That whole system is totally dysfunctional.

I owned a house in Quebradillas that was worth $1 million. I tried to get it appraised for taxes for 3 years. I sold that house months ago and escrowed tens of thousands of dollars to pay the back taxes, but to this day the house hasn't been appraised. We even paid a bribe to get the appraiser to come out, but he didn't come yet!

There are tens of thousands of properties just like this. I know of dozens of them right on the beaches of Aguadilla, owned by North Americans, that have never been appraised even though the orders for appraisal sit on the desks of the government appraisers.

Regardless of the party of the government, the politicians of Puerto Rico are afraid to reel in the fish they have hooked because they might know them.

Is this because of incompetence or corruption?

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Jorge wrote:
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Of those 20 years (since 1989 to 2009) the pro "associate state" party administrated the government for 12 years.

Jorge de P.Rico
It just depends on how one keeps time!

In the last 16 years, it's been 8 years per party.
In the last 24 years, it's been 12 years per party.

Both parties are responsible for the state of the economy in Puerto Rico. Or neither are responsible. They are just the opposite sides of the same greedy, self-interested coin.
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TJM wrote:
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Dont think PR is private ''yet''. The bloated government of the past 2 decades have destroyed the government bond rating on Puerto Rico from being rated ''AAA'', to being now just above ''junk'' status due to the government borrowing and spending too much to support the ''pig'' we call the Puerto Rican government.
Why Puerto Ricans leave to the USA are for jobs, not just in the government sector, but also in the ''private'' sector you seem to demonize. As the Puerto Rican govt, lost its way, people dont feel safe in the island, investors dont feel that PR is a safe place to invest. If you dont think so, look at what has happened in the last 2 weeks in the island.
Look at the banks of Puerto Rico since January of 2005,,,all have gone down, way before the economic earthquake of late 2008! Look, give anything to the Puerto Rican govt, they always seem to destroy it. Ex. Tren Urbano! just for starters
People lost its confidence in the island, and a bigger govt to have people employed even as they sit on their butts, dont make it better, just keeps destroying the bond rating of Puerto Rico further.
Under section 933, income from sources within Puerto Rico is excluded from gross income of bona fide residents of Puerto Rico (whether U.S. citizens or alien individuals) for U.S. Federal income tax purposes. Consequently, such individuals have a U.S. Federal income tax return filing obligation only if their income from sources outside Puerto Rico exceeds their deductions under section 151 relating to personal exemptions. To the extent such income constitutes income from sources outside the United States, such individuals generally may claim a foreign tax credit under section 901(b) for income taxes paid to foreign countries and U.S. possessions (including Puerto Rico) to offset their U.S. Federal income tax liability, subject to certain limitations.

Is this IRS provision hurting the Puerto Rican economy?
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Under section 933, income from sources within Puerto Rico is excluded from gross income of bona fide residents of Puerto Rico (whether U.S. citizens or alien individuals) for U.S. Federal income tax purposes. Consequently, such individuals have a U.S. Federal income tax return filing obligation only if their income from sources outside Puerto Rico exceeds their deductions under section 151 relating to personal exemptions. To the extent such income constitutes income from sources outside the United States, such individuals generally may claim a foreign tax credit under section 901(b) for income taxes paid to foreign countries and U.S. possessions (including Puerto Rico) to offset their U.S. Federal income tax liability, subject to certain limitations.
Is this IRS provision hurting the Puerto Rican economy?
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Blather. If you have income from ANY state and income from Puerto Rico it is necessary to file a Federal Income Tax Return. One need not file a Federal Income Tax Return ONLY if one has income from Puerto Rico and no state. That's because Puerto Rico income is not taxable as income by the United States.(FICA and Medicare taxes are due on wage income because Puerto Rican citizens qualify for these programs IF they pay into them.)

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Open above New Britain Herald link for original source. See the readers' comments of the New Britain Herald. I have a comment as Upfront Yankee.

Could you Puerto Ricans tell me why many Puerto Ricans, who moved to the states, have no desire to return to Puerto Rico. In fact, some of them don't even want to think abour Puerto Rico. I remember some time ago that many Puerto Ricans migrants to the states longed to return to Puerto Rico. Today, it sounds like they are disenchanted by the "Enchanted Island."

Be sure to check out the comments in the New Britain Herald and leave your comments.
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Jorge wrote:
Who really governs in Puerto Rico, the govt. or Moody's Investors Service, Standard and Poor's, JP Morgan or other credit markets?
If so, what should the Puerto Rican people ought to do?
What are the PDP's economic propositions?
Jorge de P.Rico
Jorge,,,there is an old saying I learned in politics:

You tell me who runs the money, and I tell you who runs the country.

makes sense in a way...could Richard Carrion of Banco Popular be running Puerto Rico!? He is on Gov. Fortuno economic board.

just a thought...tjm
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