Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. was both a religious and a political leader - Puerto Rico Daily Sun

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I am frequently baffled by the realization that the Republican-wing of the statehood New Progressive Party knows so little about the principles of American democracy or the history of the struggle for human rights in the states.

Jorge

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I am frequently baffled by the realization that the Republican-wing of the statehood New Progressive Party knows so little about the principles of American democracy or the history of the struggle for human rights in the states.

Is there a difference between the Puerto Rican Republicans from the GNP?

Jorge

Latuya

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In summary, you want a Martin Luther King wannabe, de facto union leader to attend a union contract meeting but you don’t want other religious leaders to meet with the Governor publicly. You believe in a fictitious separation of church and state law. Religious leaders that disagree with your political views are homophobic, haranguing, nonreligious and right wing. Religious liberty should not be practiced on the Capitol steps. The Governor keeps company with the Antichrist and he takes pictures with people who say homosexuality is sinful. Did I get that right? Sounds like you have a personal beef.

To equate being laid off to people who were enslaved, treated as 3/5 human, lynched, segregated, attacked by dogs and water hoses is ridiculous. Your hateful, ad homonym attacks and name calling only amplifies the weakness of your argument.

Since you brought it up, it seems as if the union leaders, Bishop Vera, and the laid off workers agree with your pro homosexual agenda…or do they?

Hold on, let me get my Staples “Asi de Facíl” button out. If the union wants Bishop Vera to attend future meetings why not vote him in? Problem solved.

As for Martin Luther King, no one ever called him a de facto union leader.

Latuya

Wow, I didn't see this revised post an hour ago?!? so now Jesus is a Socialist??? I'll let Bishop Mario Moronta of Caracas, Venezuela respond...

“Therefore, neither a revolutionary, nor a Socialist, nor a hippie, nor a philosopher, nor a Gnostic deity, nor an alien, nor a ghost, nor a myth: Jesus is Lord, the Son of the living God, the Savior, the Word incarnate who has made the mystery and plan of God known to us, the Beginning and the End, the faithful witness, the same today, yesterday and forever,”

...and Martin Luther King was never a Union Leader. this part is my quote.

As for self righteous, gratuitous labeling goes Mr. Robert McCarroll wins the prize when he mingles name calling with religious icons.

If you are going to get self righteous on us learn your Bible.

General Antonio

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Latuya wrote:

Wow, I didn't see this revised post an hour ago?!? so now Jesus is a Socialist??? I'll let Bishop Mario Moronta of Caracas, Venezuela respond...
“Therefore, neither a revolutionary, nor a Socialist, nor a hippie, nor a philosopher, nor a Gnostic deity, nor an alien, nor a ghost, nor a myth: Jesus is Lord, the Son of the living God, the Savior, the Word incarnate who has made the mystery and plan of God known to us, the Beginning and the End, the faithful witness, the same today, yesterday and forever,”
...and Martin Luther King was never a Union Leader. this part is my quote.
As for self righteous, gratuitous labeling goes Mr. Robert McCarroll wins the prize when he mingles name calling with religious icons.
If you are going to get self righteous on us learn your Bible.

If the preist your talking about is in venezuela and he is not a socialist he is no follower of god. Because in the bible God helped the poor and sick. He def. was not a republican or a wealthy billionarie. So if your using a preist from Venezuela who would think else wise. Stomp a mug in his face!

Joined: Dec 22, 2008

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Jorge wrote:

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Is there a difference between the Puerto Rican Republicans from the GNP?
Jorge

The GOP in the states is like the Republicans here. No real difference except they want the Democrats to give them lots of money from programs that the mainland Republicans voted against.

Joined: Dec 22, 2008

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Latuya wrote:

In summary, you want a Martin Luther King wannabe, de facto union leader to attend a union contract meeting but you don’t want other religious leaders to meet with the Governor publicly. You believe in a fictitious separation of church and state law. Religious leaders that disagree with your political views are homophobic, haranguing, nonreligious and right wing. Religious liberty should not be practiced on the Capitol steps. The Governor keeps company with the Antichrist and he takes pictures with people who say homosexuality is sinful. Did I get that right? Sounds like you have a personal beef.
To equate being laid off to people who were enslaved, treated as 3/5 human, lynched, segregated, attacked by dogs and water hoses is ridiculous. Your hateful, ad homonym attacks and name calling only amplifies the weakness of your argument.
Since you brought it up, it seems as if the union leaders, Bishop Vera, and the laid off workers agree with your pro homosexual agenda…or do they?
Hold on, let me get my Staples “Asi de Facíl” button out. If the union wants Bishop Vera to attend future meetings why not vote him in? Problem solved.
As for Martin Luther King, no one ever called him a de facto union leader.

You are too dumb for me to debate you. It is obvious that you do not know how to read and comprehend. It is also obvious that you know nada about the American system of government; and specifically, the history of the struggle for human rights in the United States.

It seems that you are not fluent in English. You come across as uneducated and bias. You do not want to open your mind and learn the truth.

I live in Puerto Rico and you do not. I know what is going on because I experience it everyday first hand. Don't guess what is going on just to convince yourself to remain a bigot of fire and brimstone.

I will pray that Jesus Christ will give you the gift of compassion and truth. I need to allow a lot of time because you need lots of prayers to be Christ-like and astute.

Jorge

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The GOP in the states is like the Republicans here. No real difference except they want the Democrats to give them lots of money from programs that the mainland Republicans voted against.

We don't have the necessary congress people.

Joined: Dec 22, 2008

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Jorge wrote:

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We don't have the necessary congress people.

I am told that almost all members of the PDP are with the National Democratic Party. A good percentage of the NPP has National Republican Party members. Is this true?

I cannot see how liberal Democrats can work with right-wing Republicans as part of the same Puerto Rican Administration.

Jorge

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Upfront Yankee wrote:

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I am told that almost all members of the PDP are with the National Democratic Party. A good percentage of the NPP has National Republican Party members. Is this true?
I cannot see how liberal Democrats can work with right-wing Republicans as part of the same Puerto Rican Administration.

Not "...almost all members of the PDP are with the National Democratic Party..."; all of its members are.

The PDP is a child of the NDP (from the Roosevelt Democrats).

Luis Ferré and the (then) statehood party-the Puerto Rican Republican Party leader, Miguel A. García Méndez, split; precisely, over Ferré's idea to expand "the statehooders" (to include the Democrat ones) and drain the Democrats, from the PDP.

Who's idea was this? A (then) revolutionary leader, whose grandfather was betrayed by Muñoz Marín (when he founded the PDP); Romero Barceló, a Democrat.

In the 1970's, the undisputed new leader of the NPP, Romero, ran for the island's chair seat of the Nation Democratic Party and won; ending the PDP's hegemony of said "franchise".

Hence, it's the basis of the current statehood movement-where the party's leader is a Republican and it's running mate, a Democrat.

Jorge

A brilliant political move by Romero Barceló, in order to remove the PDP's political base.

Then he moved towards removing the ELA's economical base (the industrial tax exemptions).

So, it's no wonder that the PDP retaliated by condemning him as the Cerro Maravilla's mastermind.

But, Romero remains one of our greatest 20th century politicians. He dismantled, block by block, what took the "populares" decades to build.

Latuya

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If the preist your talking about is in venezuela and he is not a socialist he is no follower of god. Because in the bible God helped the poor and sick. He def. was not a republican or a wealthy billionarie. So if your using a preist from Venezuela who would think else wise. Stomp a mug in his face!

Cristo no es izquierda o derecha, político o un miembro de un partido o ideología creado por hombre. Etiquetando a Jesús con una ideología solo sirve a disminuir quien el es.

Read the whole article from which I quoted you might learn something.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php...

Jorge

Latuya wrote:

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Cristo no es izquierda o derecha, político o un miembro de un partido o ideología creado por hombre. Etiquetando a Jesús con una ideología solo sirve a disminuir quien el es.
Read the whole article from which I quoted you might learn something.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php...

A lo mejor es ateo....

Latuya

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You are too dumb for me to debate you. It is obvious that you do not know how to read and comprehend. It is also obvious that you know nada about the American system of government; and specifically, the history of the struggle for human rights in the United States.
It seems that you are not fluent in English. You come across as uneducated and bias. You do not want to open your mind and learn the truth.
I live in Puerto Rico and you do not. I know what is going on because I experience it everyday first hand. Don't guess what is going on just to convince yourself to remain a bigot of fire and brimstone.
I will pray that Jesus Christ will give you the gift of compassion and truth. I need to allow a lot of time because you need lots of prayers to be Christ-like and astute.

Lets see, I’m dumb, can’t read or comprehend, ignorant of the American system, not fluent in English, uneducated and bias. Did I get everything? What did I not comprehend? What did I not read correctly? Was my comment on freedom of assembly and freedom of speech wrong? Was I mistaken when I said separation of church and state is not a law? Would you rather my fluidity in English resemble that of Shakespeare?¿Talvez es preferible que conteste en español?

As an American and a Puerto Rican I will exercise my opinions on political discourse regardless of my geographic location. Mi amor por Puerto Rico no se queda en el ariopuerto cuando salgo.

As for your prayer offering, thank you. I will take you at your word since I don’t know you and I wouldn’t dare judge your character as you have done mine.

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Upfront Yankee wrote:

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You are too dumb for me to debate you. It is obvious that you do not know how to read and comprehend. It is also obvious that you know nada about the American system of government; and specifically, the history of the struggle for human rights in the United States.
It seems that you are not fluent in English. You come across as uneducated and bias. You do not want to open your mind and learn the truth.

When you use an argumentum ad hominem you merely weaken the validity of your own argument by forcing others to question your faith in your argument.

Bob, you can never make the argument of the other side look incorrect by attacking the person who makes the argument. The argument is still there and others are now turned off to any counter-argument you may make. People just stop reading.

Please don't demean your arguments this way. It isn't fair to either party--especially you.

Arcangel

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Mr. Veras is not a political leader, he is a communist agent trying to create social srife in Puerto Rico. This individual does not represent any union ner any movement in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico could be a lot better without this type of human refuse!

Jorge

Arcangel wrote:

Mr. Veras is not a political leader, he is a communist agent trying to create social srife in Puerto Rico. This individual does not represent any union ner any movement in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico could be a lot better without this type of human refuse!

Did they strip the guy from his religious duties as Bishop?

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Jonesboro, GA

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Latuya wrote:

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Lets see, I’m dumb, can’t read or comprehend, ignorant of the American system, not fluent in English, uneducated and bias. Did I get everything? What did I not comprehend? What did I not read correctly? Was my comment on freedom of assembly and freedom of speech wrong? Was I mistaken when I said separation of church and state is not a law? Would you rather my fluidity in English resemble that of Shakespeare?¿Talvez es preferible que conteste en español?
As an American and a Puerto Rican I will exercise my opinions on political discourse regardless of my geographic location. Mi amor por Puerto Rico no se queda en el ariopuerto cuando salgo.
As for your prayer offering, thank you. I will take you at your word since I don’t know you and I wouldn’t dare judge your character as you have done mine.

Bible Thumping Bird Brain, you judged me with your very first comment. Rather than sticking your nose into the Bible, learn to practice the teachings of Christ. No one said that Jesus Christ was a socialist.... I said the Romans considered him a socialist.

You read but do not comprehend. You jump to wrong conclusions out of thin air. Why does Puerto Rico have so many Bible Thumpers like you while having the highest murder and violent crime rates under the American flag? Why do Puerto Ricans abuse their spouses at a very high rate? Why is almost 50 percent of the Puerto Ricn population on federal assistance? Why are more Puerto Ricans now living in the states and do not want to return to Puerto Rico?

Please don't force your narrow-minded, self-loathing, hateful idea of Jesus Christ on me or others. We believe in a loving God and not a God of fear and hate. Why are Bible thumpers of so little faith and good deeds?

Where did you get your graduate degree in being a bigot? God and Obama love gay and lesbian people. I will continue to pray that you get your nose out of the Bible and learn to love unconditionally.

Jorge

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Bible Thumping Bird Brain, you judged me with your very first comment. Rather than sticking your nose into the Bible, learn to practice the teachings of Christ. No one said that Jesus Christ was a socialist.... I said the Romans considered him a socialist.
You read but do not comprehend. You jump to wrong conclusions out of thin air. Why does Puerto Rico have so many Bible Thumpers like you while having the highest murder and violent crime rates under the American flag? Why do Puerto Ricans abuse their spouses at a very high rate? Why is almost 50 percent of the Puerto Ricn population on federal assistance? Why are more Puerto Ricans now living in the states and do not want to return to Puerto Rico?
Please don't force your narrow-minded, self-loathing, hateful idea of Jesus Christ on me or others. We believe in a loving God and not a God of fear and hate. Why are Bible thumpers of so little faith and good deeds?
Where did you get your graduate degree in being a bigot? God and Obama love gay and lesbian people. I will continue to pray that you get your nose out of the Bible and learn to love unconditionally.

What's a Puerto Rican?

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Jonesboro, GA

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Jorge wrote:

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What's a Puerto Rican?

A wonderful community of people who live in Puerto Rico and in the states. They need to seriously consider the kinds of self-serving officials that are elected or appointed to government positions on the island. It is a time to clean all the bums out in order that this community of beautiful people, known as Puerto Ricans, can live happyily ever after. They deserve better government and opportunities in Puerto Rico. It seems that many Puerto Ricans are successful in the states in all areas of their lives.

By the way, most Puerto Ricans are beautiful inside as well as outside. The only thing wrong with Puerto Rico is that there are too many incompetent and corrupt political officials. Puerto Ricans deserve better government.

There is an old saying: "You get the kind of government you deserve." I have a feeling that more and more Puerto Ricans want a change for the better. They need a Puerto Rican Obama to give hope and change.

Jorge