Puerto Rico status should be clearly decided

Jorge wrote:

<quoted text>
Justice José Trías Monge was a staunch defender of the ELA, he wrote his book towards the his last days.
One wonders if he would have had such a brilliant career if exposing his ideas sooner (especially under the Muñoz administration).
Jorge de P.Rico

Hola Jorge,
Espero que todo este bien contigo y tu familia! I have come to the conclusion that Judge Trías Monge trully believed that the new title bestowed on the island was going to be something unique and would grow. He and many of the populares were disanchanted once they realize that it was the same thing; a purfumed colony. If Don Luis would had pushed the idea that it was a transistional period and that Puerto Rico had within a certain period decide what they wanted we would not be in the situation we find ourselves now. If Puerto Rico would had been a protectorate of the U.S. and considered U.S. Nationals it would had eventually become a free country, but that is another cuento! Feliz Dia de Accion de Gracias a ti y tu familia!

MataConHacha wrote:

<quoted text>
Hola Jorge,
Espero que todo este bien contigo y tu familia! I have come to the conclusion that Judge Trías Monge trully believed that the new title bestowed on the island was going to be something unique and would grow. He and many of the populares were disanchanted once they realize that it was the same thing; a purfumed colony. If Don Luis would had pushed the idea that it was a transistional period and that Puerto Rico had within a certain period decide what they wanted we would not be in the situation we find ourselves now. If Puerto Rico would had been a protectorate of the U.S. and considered U.S. Nationals it would had eventually become a free country, but that is another cuento! Feliz Dia de Accion de Gracias a ti y tu familia!

Gracias, igual para tí y los tuyos.

Buen punto. Pero, las veces que la familia que le sobrevive a Muñoz, le preguntan sobre el tema-lo niegan.

Muñoz sabía sobre el engaño pero, a los mejor, dado los mores del momento, no había de otra. De hecho, el siempre habló del "estado asociado" como una etapa transicional.

Lo que he criticado siempre de los carreristas políticos es su oportunismo. Hernández Colón nunca habló del "déficit de democracia" del estado asociado, mientras Muñoz vivía. Hay que leer su tésis, para grado en EEUU, y las loas que les cantaba al ELA, y por lo cual Muñoz lo bendijo con una carrera pública.

Hernández Agosto ni el padre de Anibal Acevedo, ninguno de los dos nunca habló de "sacar al tribunal federal de la isla", como lo hacen ahora (estando Muñoz vivo).

Muñoz y el partido popular han exigido que Washington les aumente poderes autónomos y soberanos al ELA, sobre 70 veces (todos infructuosos). O sea, eso te dice que engañaron al pueblo sobre un "supuesto pacto bilateral" y jugaron a la republiquita bananera, haciéndole creer a los puertorriqueños que éramos una nación con poderes soberanos y que EEUU es un país extrajero, por más de medio siglo.

En esa deconstrucción es que ha estado el movimiento estadista desde la creación del "estado asociado". Y lo que nos falta...

Jorge

Jorge wrote:

<quoted text>
Gracias, igual para tí y los tuyos.
Buen punto. Pero, las veces que la familia que le sobrevive a Muñoz, le preguntan sobre el tema-lo niegan.
Muñoz sabía sobre el engaño pero, a los mejor, dado los mores del momento, no había de otra. De hecho, el siempre habló del "estado asociado" como una etapa transicional.
Lo que he criticado siempre de los carreristas políticos es su oportunismo. Hernández Colón nunca habló del "déficit de democracia" del estado asociado, mientras Muñoz vivía. Hay que leer su tésis, para grado en EEUU, y las loas que les cantaba al ELA, y por lo cual Muñoz lo bendijo con una carrera pública.
Hernández Agosto ni el padre de Anibal Acevedo, ninguno de los dos nunca habló de "sacar al tribunal federal de la isla", como lo hacen ahora (estando Muñoz vivo).
Muñoz y el partido popular han exigido que Washington les aumente poderes autónomos y soberanos al ELA, sobre 70 veces (todos infructuosos). O sea, eso te dice que engañaron al pueblo sobre un "supuesto pacto bilateral" y jugaron a la republiquita bananera, haciéndole creer a los puertorriqueños que éramos una nación con poderes soberanos y que EEUU es un país extrajero, por más de medio siglo.
En esa deconstrucción es que ha estado el movimieto estadista desde la creación del "estado asociado". Y lo que nos falta...
Jorge

Jorge,

Es cierto, los populares despues de LMM cambieron. Mi querida madre era una Munozcista y cuando el partido cambio mas para la "izquierda" de lo que predicaba LMM dejo de hacer popular y se convertio al PNP por que entendia que ya no era lo que ella conocia bajo Munoz su punto de transcision termino para ella. Los que todavia creen que "ELA" todavia puede ser lo que nunca pudo ser o puede ser bajo las condiciones que vive, no van aceptar la verda aunque le peguen plenamente en la cara gritando que hay un pacto. Poco a poco el cambio ha tumbado la menteria de los populares y yo espero antes que me muera que Puerto Rico obtenga dignidad se como estado de la union o como republica soberana.

NOT REALLY wrote:

<quoted text>
...and better than refugees from the third world countries of the former Yugoslavia.

ache quo nae

some-1 wrote:

<quoted text>ache quo nae

You have an ache? A toothache? Headache? Buttache? LOL

Yolanda Torres wrote:

<quoted text>
Since when was Puerto Rico a state? I didn't know that.

Hi Yolanda I never said it was a state. For the past 20 years I hear the independents say Screw the U.S. and we will be on our own. The only problem with that thought is their calculators are broken.

I don't care what the politics are in P.R. when it comes to being Independent. Lets do simple Math.
The information Below is from the San Juan Star and also MY time living there and working there doing business.

lets see where the Tax Money would come from to run the "independent Government"

1. Puerto Rico has more gov employees pop (4 million) Then New York (8.2 million )Taxed

2. P.R. basically has NO TAX On there property/houses. 3 years ago my real estate attorney said San Juan was only about 10% done after years of doing it.

3 Theres is no School tax

4.Theres no county tax

5.Garbage is pickup on Govs expense

6.(Sun paper)The CRIM (tax)office is STILL trying to get the deeds of homes on computer for Years. So far only 20% is done and the system keeps crashing. So its still done by HAND written and filed in a filing cab.

7. The New sales tax that started a few years back works like this. The mom and pop store takes there sales tax and puts it into a group Gov bank account. So the point is Gov will never know who really paid what.

8. Add the 10s of thousand of people doing Cash business Construction/small apt rentals that doesn't report it

9. Add to that the thousands of Homes steeling electricity (less money to Island)

10. Add the your total monthly water bill is cut in half because your water goes off for a day or so. This happens every month in many places.(less money to Island)

Theres is NO mathematical way for Puerto Rico to become an independent island unless they want to go back to horse and buggy's

I'm a numbers person and run a business here and in P.R.

The states only take the P.R. workers IRS money. They rest stays there. Explains why the states sends 15 billion annually to help keep P.R. a float.

The east cost economy was devastated when P.R. booted the military off Vieques and Roosevelt Roads Saba. It still didn't recover and its been YEARS!!

Nothing would make me happier then to see P.R. be the next Hawaii. Imagine the values of the property for All Puerto Ricans going UP and the tourism money piling in form the East Coast tourist. Think of the money to get a better police force and the crime goes down. Many Puerto Ricans would become Millionaires from there property values by the coast. Don't believe me price a house by the beach on the east coast with an ocean view.

NOT REALLY wrote:

<quoted text>
You have an ache? A toothache? Headache? Buttache? LOL

my d!ck hurts,your mom 'blew' me hard.

some-1 wrote:

<quoted text>my d!ck hurts,your mom 'blew' me hard.

You're confused, that was your Serbian daddy. LOL

NOT REALLY wrote:

<quoted text>
You're confused, that was your Serbian daddy. LOL

i don't know what your daddy and you do,but we don't do that.

Your Serbian daddy does everyone.