Puerto Rico status should be clearly decided

If PR goes independent,,,would the USA give it a lump sum of money like 65 billion to get it started? I have heard this, not sure if anyone else has.

TJM wrote:

If PR goes independent,,,would the USA give it a lump sum of money like 65 billion to get it started? I have heard this, not sure if anyone else has.

I heard it from the populares. It is in their "wish list", but at the rate their "banana republic" dreams and the downfall of the dollar is going...they might as well ask it in "euros".

JORGE

Jorge wrote:

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I heard it from the populares. It is in their "wish list", but at the rate their "banana republic" dreams and the downfall of the dollar is going...they might as well ask it in "euros".
JORGE

Nunca va a ocurrir.

NOT REALLY wrote:

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Nunca va a ocurrir.

¿Qué no va a ocurrir?¿el cambio a euros?

Pero, si de aquí a allá vamos a usar los dólares pa' calentarnos, chico.

Mira, en euros, por lo menos nos dá pa' mantener a los gordos, por lo menos. LOL

TJM wrote:

If PR goes independent,,,would the USA give it a lump sum of money like 65 billion to get it started? I have heard this, not sure if anyone else has.

Washington, in the next 9 years is going to send the ELA over $141 billion dls. during the next 9 yrs (including an increase in Medicare and Medicaid).

Do you think the populares, are willing to settle for 65 when they can get over twice that amount, with their little "banana republic" wannabe?

Jorge

Lets get over the status hogwash and begin with real politics. The problem here in Puerto Rico is that every political party creates programs and laws that serves their respective believes and not the people of Puerto Rico. The Populares, which is a socialist movement, loves to live in the colony while playing to the independent nation with Uncle Sam's money.While the pnps loves to play to the state while living in the colony. At the same time they alternate the political control and the end product has been zero growth, in economy, social improvement and education. So lets kill the status once and for all by taking a stand and working on it.

Arcangel wrote:

Lets get over the status hogwash and begin with real politics. The problem here in Puerto Rico is that every political party creates programs and laws that serves their respective believes and not the people of Puerto Rico. The Populares, which is a socialist movement, loves to live in the colony while playing to the independent nation with Uncle Sam's money.While the pnps loves to play to the state while living in the colony. At the same time they alternate the political control and the end product has been zero growth, in economy, social improvement and education. So lets kill the status once and for all by taking a stand and working on it.

Well, well, weren't you God-sent!

Jorge wrote:

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¿Qué no va a ocurrir?¿el cambio a euros?
Pero, si de aquí a allá vamos a usar los dólares pa' calentarnos, chico.
Mira, en euros, por lo menos nos dá pa' mantener a los gordos, por lo menos. LOL

La independencia de Puerto Rico.

NOT REALLY wrote:

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La independencia de Puerto Rico.

Pues si los americanos liquidaron a los independentistas....t los que quedan se pasan demandando en la corte federal (LOL, go figure).

Jorge

Jorge wrote:

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Washington, in the next 9 years is going to send the ELA over $141 billion dls. during the next 9 yrs (including an increase in Medicare and Medicaid).
Do you think the populares, are willing to settle for 65 when they can get over twice that amount, with their little "banana republic" wannabe?
Jorge

mmmmmmmmmmmm........in the next status,''commonwealth'' will not be a choice, right??

and what about ''Association of the USA'',,,is that going to be on the ballot? thanks for the info...

TJM wrote:

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mmmmmmmmmmmm........in the next status,''commonwealth'' will not be a choice, right??
and what about ''Association of the USA'',,,is that going to be on the ballot? thanks for the info...

In the next referendum on "status", the issue will be if we (Americans residing in the island) want to continue with the current, territorial relationship (with the USA), yes or no?

Jorge

What remains to be seen is if it is going to be federally or locally funded.

Jorge wrote:

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In the next referendum on "status", the issue will be if we (Americans residing in the island) want to continue with the current, territorial relationship (with the USA), yes or no?
Jorge
What remains to be seen is if it is going to be federally or locally funded.

If it is locally funded, as the plebiscites were in the past, it will have no value. Only a Federally funded one will have any meaning in Congress.

why do you need puerto rico?they're a bunch of lazy people.

NOT REALLY wrote:

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If it is locally funded, as the plebiscites were in the past, it will have no value. Only a Federally funded one will have any meaning in Congress.

Everyone of them is valued. And believe me, if the majority of the people vote on a change...it will be heard around the world! and get congressional attention.

The populares are desperate....it is laughable and sad at the same time.

Jorge

Se enredaron y creyeron sus propias mentiras sobre un supuesto pacto bilateral y autonomía inexistente. Por eso es que Anibal, en las pasadas elecciones, hizo un viraje hacia "mayor autonomía" que provocó la derrota más grande de ese partido (perdieron cientos de miles de votos). Sólo lograron acumular el 43% del total (un partido que ganaba con sobre 66% unas elecciones).

Lo último que oí es que tienen como cuatro propuestas diferentes de definición del ELA, ninguna con aprobación congresional.

Por otro lado, la estadidad es una (y está bien definida) al igual que la independencia.

Así que a los que debe preocuparles si hay o no aprobación en el congreso es a los populares. They ran out of time and history caught them off guard. La vieja guardia de congresistas demócratas, que mantenían al ELA vivo, se ha ido muriendo (Teddy Kennedy fué el último de los mohicanos).

some-1 wrote:

why do you need puerto rico?they're a bunch of lazy people.

puerto rico is rich port in Spanish...not a bunch of people. LOL

Learn Spanish!

some-1 wrote:

why do you need puerto rico?they're a bunch of lazy people.

And so is your fat canuck azz.

Jorge wrote:

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puerto rico is rich port in Spanish...not a bunch of people. LOL
Learn Spanish!

you should speak another language man,you people were ruled for few years by spanish and all of you speak spanish,in europe spanish today are a joke.
my old country was ruled for centuries by others and we never let go of our native language.
i guess white people are tougher than others.

Dave Lopes wrote:

<quoted text>And so is your fat canuck azz.

i'm not canuck by birth,and by the way,with this b.s. multiculturalism it feels like i'm in my old country.

some-1 wrote:

<quoted text>you should speak another language man,you people were ruled for few years by spanish and all of you speak spanish,in europe spanish today are a joke.
my old country was ruled for centuries by others and we never let go of our native language.
i guess white people are tougher than others.

your native language being "sign" "while hanging from trees by the tail"?

some-1 wrote:

<quoted text>i'm not canuck by birth,and by the way,with this b.s. multiculturalism it feels like i'm in my old country.

No, you feel like "old"...., just that.