Controversy feared in plan to rename road in honor of late INC head

He just looks superior. I dont percieve his deeds justify anything significant.

commonsins wrote:

He just looks superior. I dont percieve his deeds justify anything significant.

This naming of Commonwealth Boulevard to Erano G. Manalo Avenue is a political ploy to court the votes of the Iglesian ni cristo because this churchgroup sells the votes of their members to politicians.

That is public knowledge.

When politicians go to their palace seeking their support, they are asked what they can contribute to the INC first. After the elections, it is payback time.

Jane Abao wrote:

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This naming of Commonwealth Boulevard to Erano G. Manalo Avenue is a political ploy to court the votes of the Iglesian ni cristo because this churchgroup sells the votes of their members to politicians.
That is public knowledge.
When politicians go to their palace seeking their support, they are asked what they can contribute to the INC first. After the elections, it is payback time.

Politics could be the primary motive but filipino socialistic values and decadence plays great role on this hoopla IMO.

Jane Abao wrote:

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This naming of Commonwealth Boulevard to Erano G. Manalo Avenue is a political ploy to court the votes of the Iglesian ni cristo because this churchgroup sells the votes of their members to politicians.

That is public knowledge.

When politicians go to their palace seeking their support, they are asked what they can contribute to the INC first. After the elections, it is payback time.

Indeed! Instituting signs and signals for the election,
"holiday" and "roads named after the INC King" for the electorate few.

commonsins wrote:

<quoted text> Politics could be the primary motive but filipino socialistic values and decadence plays great role on this hoopla IMO.

Filipinos will vote, will fight for their rights. But once the political church gathered the final statistics a day before the election date, she will then announce clandestinely the names of the final candidates to vote for.

Just like shares and stocks. Get the math?

And what will the Filipino electorate get from the winners? Ah, roads and holidays just like the topic.

Tamilok Sa Itaass Ni Soriano/Topwormwood,
Ia am pasting below here the phenomenality of Eliseo Fernando Soriano as a pariah to society, as a wanted criminal, and as a racist faggot and maggot thus:
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Headline: Muslim protest against Eliseo Soriano
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Newstory:
24 months ago: A Filipino Muslim cheers for a speaker by shouting "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great!) during a rally Wednesday March 7, 2007, at a downtown Manila square, to protest recent televised preaching by a Christian sect leader Eli Soriano, who alleges that Muslims are killers.AP
Source: http://www.daylife.com/photo/0gl91Ho9FR8vnEli ... Soriano, defunct leader of the cult Ang Dating Daan is facing a multitude of criminal and civil cases in his native Philippines. Reported to be on the run since 2005, Soriano left a popular TV show and a growing organization.
He left the Philippines, and his organization obviously to escape an arrest warrant for allegedly raping a male follower. No one knows what will eventually happen to him, and his failing organization.
Any accused person must be considered innocent until proven otherwise in a court of law.
Of the 18 male fugitives of Philippine nationality on the Interpol Wanted list, only two are accused of sex crimes. Both of them are supposed to be preachers of God’s word. One is a catholic priest and the other is Eliseo Fernando Soriano. The priest is accused of raping a 14 year old girl, a member of his parish. Soriano is accused of raping a male subordinate. Any accused person should be considered innocent until proven guilty. The law requires the accused to face his accuser in a court of law and there prove his accuser wrong.
The rape accusation is not the only legal problem facing Soriano should he decide to come back to the Philippines. There are also a few libel cases filed against him by the Iglesia ni Cristo and also by the muslim. The one lawsuit filed by the Muslims stemmed from some unsavory remarks made by Eliseo Soriano against Muslims and their prophet. A broadcast of one of his daily talk shows is on Youtuve, and it is one can find Soriano regularly spew diatribe against regular people, politicians and other religious organizations. And get this, he does his daily sermons using audio and video compact disk. So there is a chance that Muslims have a copy of this episode.
The muslims claim in their lawsuit that Soriano “uttered malicious sweeping … imputation of crimes … against them(muslims)” which they say “exposed them to dishonor, disgrace, shame…”.
But do the Muslims have a case? Can they show proof that indeed Soriano maligned them and their prophet? Soriano, as is the case in all of his legal troubles denies he did what he’s accused of. An expert witness challenge Soriano to provide the National Bureau of Investigation voice samples to be used to either confirm or falsify Soriano's denial. Soriano declined
There's a youtube video of someone who sounded like Soriano calling Muslims kellers. Here’s a transcript of the video and what he said about Muslims.
Soriano:“That’s what Muslims do. I’m not saying this because I’m crazy and I have a death wish because they indeed kill.”
Soriano:“You encounter a Muslim, they’ll criticize the bible. They say the bible is wrong. I say, they’re crazy. I tell them ‘well if the bible is wrong then why are you using it to justify Mohammad’s prophecy?’ They say the one mention in Deuteronomy 1*:18-19 is Mohammad and then they turn and criticize the bible. They criticize the bible and then use if to justifies Mohammad’s prophecy then you’re crazy, even Mohammad is crazy”.

Tamilok Sa Itaass Ni Soriano/Topwormwood,

The above is proof enough that Eliseo Fernando Soriano is a cursing maggot and faggot!!! He has to learn his lessons!!! A criminal pseudo-preacher has no right to demean and despoil the Muslims in any country!!! The Crusades were over and it did not work even with the use of children by the Roman Catholic Church!!! The CRUSADES launched by the Roman Catholic Church against the Jews, the Muslims,and the pagans should not be ressurected by not allowing a cult leader such as Eliseo Fernando Soriano go free without answering for his crimes against humanity and more particularly against the Muslim people, nations, and tongues!!!

Tamilok Sa Itaass Ni Soriano/Topwormwood,
Here's how the public perceives Eliseo Fernando Soriano's much advertised "cult of personality":
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TOPIC: Ask Bro. Eli, the "most sensible preacher" does not make sense
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Eli Soriano, the fugitive televangelist wanted by the Interpol fashions himself as a great biblical resource. He even allows himself to be called “Pantas” or tagalog for "wise man". Lofty, isn’t it? He sports many monikers such as “the most sensible preacher of our times”,“phenomenal preacher”,“Walking bible”,“Modern Jeremiah”,“the appointed one”,“he who holds the key”, and others. He even stole my handle, truthcaster. Other terms he uses to describe himself are “tech savvy” and “human encyclopedia”.

But is he really all that? I looked into a few of his pronouncements and found a lot of weird stuff. Let’s together see if this man they call “wise man” make sense at all. Let’s take a look at just three things for now.

1. Sepoys of Cainta, Rizal, Philippines.

In one episode of his Philippine talk show, he was asked why some people in Cainta, Rizal, Philippines where considerably darker than others inhabitants in the area.

Not even pausing to ponder the question, he said that the reason was that the sun beats extra hot in Cainta, Rizal. Yup, that’s what he said. He said this bit with full authority as if he knew what he was talking about. He made it sound that, as a matter of fact, the sun is just hotter in Cainta, Rizal. He didn’t explain why this is so. There maybe a few reasons why the sun would beat extra harder or hotter in a certain spot, but would this make someone darker permanently? I can see some people may get a tan but to permanently change the color of the skin, and then pass this on to their children sounds a little over-reaching.

The Iglesia ni Cristo religious program Ang Tamang Daan, obviously and rightfully, not wanting this bad information to be taken as fact immediately responded with a correction and a lesson to impart an important historical detail. The reason why some people of Cainta, Rizal are considerably darker than others is because they are descendants of Sepoys who elected to remain in the Philippines. The Sepoys where Indians who served in the British army.

Way to go “wise man”. One strike for you.
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Your cult is the only one adulating for the lost cause of a criminal fugitive!!! STOP H.I.V.!!! STOP SAME-GENDER SEX AND MARRIAGE!!!

You are just plain envious of the unstoppable momentum of the Iglesia Ni Cristo all over the world in converting people towards the right religion. The Church has the guidance of the Only True God in its desire to bring people towards salvation comes Judgment Day.

To: THE PUBLIC

While the Iglesia Ni Cristo is gaining victory on all fronts, her detractors are reeling like drunkards and unable to stop the juggernaut caused by the true Christian Church. A lot had been said and done against it but still it continues to march towards a more glorious stature. Who are you to hinder it? Who are you to stop the righteous hands of the Almighty?

To: The Public

You are just plain envious of the unstoppable momentum of the Iglesia Ni Cristo all over the world in converting people towards the right religion. The Church has the guidance of the Only True God in its desire to bring people towards salvation comes Judgment Day.

While the Iglesia Ni Cristo is gaining victory on all fronts, her detractors are reeling like drunkards and unable to stop the juggernaut caused by the true Christian Church. A lot had been said and done against it but still it continues to march towards a more glorious stature. Who are you to hinder it? Who are you to stop the righteous hands of the Almighty?

Jane Abao wrote:

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This naming of Commonwealth Boulevard to Erano G. Manalo Avenue is a political ploy to court the votes of the Iglesian ni cristo because this churchgroup sells the votes of their members to politicians.
That is public knowledge.
When politicians go to their palace seeking their support, they are asked what they can contribute to the INC first. After the elections, it is payback time.

Jane Abao,
We never accepted anything from the politicians contributions in any form!!! We have God and our Lord Jesus Christ who provide us daily our needs which we use to support the needs of the Iglesia Ni Cristo!!! Our God is powerful and merciful and so does Jesus Christ who mediates our needs to the Father!!!
We are not a begging Church like the Roman Catholic Church and your "False Sinkhole" cult whose leader and the next in command attempted to run for senator and congressman respectively, inspite of the separation of the church and state, in order to possibly receive pork barrels from the government!!!
You are just plain law violators!!! While we are just purely law abiding citizens of the Philippines for we don't clog the prisons because we don't resort to the prosecution of cases against any of our brothers and sisters!!! Thus, we saved money for the government!!! Have you seen an Iglesia Ni Cristo member filing a criminal or civil suit against someone in the Church of Christ??? A BIG NO!!! Why??? We resolved cases among ourselves and we don't allow non-believers to judge us!!! We are loved because we love so much the brotherhood within the Church of Christ!!!!
Those outside though are killing each other and then bring their complaints to the government thereby causing a big strain to the finances of the government!!! You are all shameless in your pretensions!!!

The history of Eliseo Fernando Soriano who fleed from the Philippines is proof of your cult's pretensions!!! Your cult like the Roman Catholic Church and the Protestants are clogging the judicial system with cases filed against each other!!! What king of brotherhood is that??? You are all fakes but it is a wonder why your cult still remains shameless through the years!!!

topwormwood wrote:

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What is the best thing to say when I am challenged for a debate by a compulsive liar?

Haha! You're dealing with a warped brain. But then you have to answer because people might believe him.

No matter what you say, your best card is that he will post more proof about himself.

He had stayed so long in the World of Lies - that now he has to defend it to death.

Jane Abao wrote:

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Haha! You're dealing with a warped brain. But then you have to answer because people might believe him.
No matter what you say, your best card is that he will post more proof about himself.
He had stayed so long in the World of Lies - that now he has to defend it to death.

Jane Abao,
Your cult and leader could not withstand the scrutiny of the public with regards to his contradictory teachings!!! He is hiding in all fronts and that alone is proof that Eliseo Fernando Soriano is a nobody but a pseudo-preacher!!! Your Ph.d could not alter his warping brain even if you put up the best of you propaganda lies!!! The Iglesia Ni Cristo wins at all moments in time!!!

ELIAS IBARRA wrote:

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Jane Abao,
Your cult and leader could not withstand the scrutiny of the public with regards to his contradictory teachings!!! He is hiding in all fronts and that alone is proof that Eliseo Fernando Soriano is a nobody but a pseudo-preacher!!!

That is only according to you. The audience is not made up only of elias ibarra - the audience is global.

It has been set in your mind that Soriano is in hiding. What is that to us? Does truth change because you said it?

Jane Abao wrote:

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That is only according to you. The audience is not made up only of elias ibarra - the audience is global.
It has been set in your mind that Soriano is in hiding. What is that to us? Does truth change because you said it?

Jane Abao,

Global but it is not in Guam and the United States!!! How would you reconcile your lyings to the public??? I asked you before to list the five locals which Eliseo established overseas for the almost six years he was hiding!!! Did you comply so that you can have evidence??? A BIG NO!!!

How could you have the truth when you are outside of the fold establihed by Christ??? How could you have the truth when your cult was just a result of the mediatory job of the Philippine Supreme Court to appease Eliseo fernando Soriano after he lost to the complainants of copy rights violations??? Remember, Eliseo Fernando Soriano was just using the names of other cults to register a religion!!! He was sued and he lost big!!! Thus, to appease him, a name for your cult was suggested thus, your "False Sinkhole" cult is not made in heaven but by a building along Padre Faura if I am not mistaken!!!

commonsins wrote:

I would name it "WHO?".

Commonsense,

Write English!!! You are a shame!!! An avenue is not a person!!! It is not a "who"!!! You are just one of the bopolheads in the RECTUMISM CULT!!!

commonsins wrote:

He just looks superior. I dont percieve his deeds justify anything significant.

Commonsense,
Do you want to dare me in a one-on-one debate??? Do you want to justify your words with acts??? Come on down!!! Let's debate after we agree on the terms!!! Post your terms here and don't run away!!!

ELIAS IBARRA wrote:

Tamilok Sa Itaass Ni Soriano/Topwormwood,
... Now, I am challenging you to challenge me to a debate on any biblical topic!!! I have to repeat this!!! I AM CHALLENGING YOU TO CHALLENGE ME TO A DEBATE ON ANY BIBLICAL TOPIC!!! I AM CHALLENGING YOU TO CHALLENGE ME TO A DEBATE ON ANY BIBLICAL TOPIC!!!

HINAHAMON KITA NA HAMONIN MO AKO SA ISANG DEBATE SA KAHIT ANONG PAKSA SA BIBLIYA!!! HINAHAMON KITA NA HAMONIN MO AKO SA ISANG DEBATE SA KAHIT ANONG PAKSA SA BIBLIYA!!! SIGE NA!!! COME ON, NOW!!! MAAWA KA NAMAN SA IYONG SARILI!!!
YOU HAVE UNTIL 2400 HOURS TONIGHT TO ANSWER THE CHALLENGE!!! DON'T PRETEND THAT YOU DON'T SEE THIS POST!!!

What is the best thing to say when I am being challenged by a compulsive liar to challenge him for a debate?

Jane Abao wrote:

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Haha! You're dealing with a warped brain. But then you have to answer because people might believe him.

No matter what you say, your best card is that he will post more proof about himself.

He had stayed so long in the World of Lies - that now he has to defend it to death.

Right! His proof is himself.

Anymore suggestions from the forum?

ELIAS IBARRA wrote:

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Phantom,
Bad news for the Rectumites or the False Sinkhole cult of Eliseo Fernando Soriano!!! But let me hazard an explanation!!! Ang diyos nila na may puwet hindi na makautang sa mga bangko!!! Bangkarote na ang kulto ni Taning at Eliang!!! How could 2,010 members support the leisures and pleasures of a gay practitioner!!! A dozen lovers and a $400 a night hotel in Brazil would gobble up a lot of expenses!!! The criminal will be forced to take shelter in the dilapidated compund in Apalit but there is the danger that this property will be garnished by the government!!! This will be the shame of all shames!!! It is their envy and jealousy of the Iglesia Ni cristo which made them to construct this Convention Center!!! They were showing off and grandstanding of their toilets!!! Now, they are starting to exit from the edifice with covered faces!!!

._.That's right! All actions they're doing are result of their hatred toward INC. By the way, soopereron, a blind goat from ADD, mentioned that hatred comes from evil,...and i really agree with that, especially that their org is a very good example of such,....

ELIAS IBARRA wrote:

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Tamilok sa Itaass Ni Soriano/Topwormwood,
Your cult, leader, and you did not resort to grandstanding??? Is challenging for a debate, without showing up and then hiding, not grandstanding??? Is building an edifice with borrowed money from banks inspite of scarce resources not grandstanding??? Look at your dilapidated Convention Center now!!! You just envy the Iglesia Ni Cristo thus you were forced to build something that is beyond your reach!!! What a sorry sight for an illusion that never come true!!!
You and your cult pretended that there is an increase in your memberships!!! What happened??? Suddenly, one of your bloggers voluntarily revealed the mass defections from your cult!!! Suddenly, Jane Abao revealed that the Iglesia Ni Cristo ranks second now to the Roman Catholics in the Philippines in memberships and thereby surpassing the protestants!!! Be careful with the way you lawyer for the "False Sinkhole" cult and leader!!! Your lies and deceptions could no longer restrain your members from defecting to us inspite of your threats to them!!!

._. Kuya Elias, it was my first time to go to Apalit, and I found out that along McArthur H-way(national Highway)is where ADD convention center can be found. Well, not that easy to be found, because marami nang tumubong talahib sa bungad nila. Hehe,... Masyado ngang matalahib, eh,....