PM Harper to visit India, China in December

Stephen Harper is NOT welcome by the Chinese public, after 3 years as an anti-China nut.

When PM Harper visits India, I hope he is convinced that India is NOT disintegrating but consolidating through urbanization. It is about rural India vs. urban India. Urban India is winning. Urban voters will eventually become the majority in urban vs. rural India.

India is NOT disintegrating, but integrating through URBANIZATION. She is consolidating through urbanization. The rural sector is de-populating and the urban sector is populating.
There is a difference between rural India and urban India. There is also a difference between rural Hinduism and urban Hinduism. In rural India, everybody knows everybody's caste and try to lead caste conscious and segregated lives. In the village, castes are more segregated because sometimes different castes sometimes live in different parts of the same village. Urban India is different.

In urban India, the cities are crowded with people. It is hard for city dwellers to know the caste of everybody else in cities. In cities if you sell umbrellas, then you sell to anybody who buys, not just to people of your own caste. In cities if you buy tea, you buy from anybody who sells tea, not just from somebody of your own caste. If you board a bus, you just sit beside anybody, not just somebody of your own caste. In fact, the cities are so crowded that you are lucky if you can find a seat in the bus or train. The cities are so crowded that all castes are forced to interact with each other daily. Segregation along caste lines may be possible in villages, but impractical in cities. Caste segregation will break down in cities where the life is fast and crowded; but caste segregation can be preserved in slow moving villages.

Caste means community or clan. Different castes means different communities/clan. Hindu people prefer to marry someone of their own caste. It means that Hindu people prefer to marry someone of their own clan. To marry someone of your own clan is your human right, which should not be questioned. When someone engages in intra-caste or intra-clan marriage, you please keep your comments to your self and mind your own business.

Any way, it is very hard to maintain caste consciousness in cities as compared to villages. Cities are too fast and crowded to maintain caste consciousness. India is urbanizing rapidly.

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The caste system is well documented in Hindu scriptures, but the Hindu people almost never bothered to read the Hindu scriptures. With the changing times, Hinduism will not die. On the contrary, rural Hinduism will re-invent itself and emerge as urban Hinduism. Hinduism is morphing under urbanization. There is a difference between rural Hinduism and urban Hinduism. There are two India's in this country, rural and urban. While the world is not watching, people in India are moving from one side to the other side. While the world is not watching, people are moving from rural side to the urban side. Unknown to the world, urban India is becoming more dominant socially, politically, and economically. Unknown to the world, rural Hinduism is transforming into urban Hinduism. Amitabh Bachchan is right. It is a case of India vs. India. It is a case of urban vs. rural. See video: http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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It does not matter how Hinduism was explained in the scriptures. We have to see the ground realities. But we have to change with the times. Evolution. There is good news. Urbanization will bring changes to Hinduism. Currently, almost 70% of Indians live in rural India, while 30% live in urban India. In developed nations like USA, Europe, and Japan, the majority live in cities. Currently, India and China are undergoing what USA went through about a 100 years ago: URBANIZATION.

Both my parents are Indian and Hindu; I'm an evolutionist.

I have already explained in my previous posts that India is not disintegrating. The reverse is true. Indians are integrating in the cities. There is growth in the cities. The rural folks are slowly moving to the cities for a better life. The city population is increasing, while the rural population is decreasing. India is undergoing rapid urbanization. India is now consolidating through urbanization. India is now integrating through urbanization. It is about rural India vs. urban India. ONE DAY INTO THE FUTURE, URBAN VOTERS WILL BECOME THE MAJORITY. That's it. When the urban voters are the majority, it will bring social, economic and political change.

Most of these Maoists, separatists, and terrorists are active in remote parts of India. They can engage in attacks through hit-and-run tactics. That's all. There is not much support for them. On the contrary, it is better for the poor to relocate to areas where there is growth and opportunities: the cities. This is what the rural folks are doing to better themselves. In short, you should not wait for the economic growth to come to your village; you should move to the cities where there may be more economic opportunities and better education for your children. The rural folks who move to cities may end up in city slums. So what? It is a start; something is better than nothing. They will learn everyday and improve themselves and educate their children. The next generation of slum dwellers will buy a home and move out of the slums to, may be, low cost housing. Then the next generation of low cost housing dwellers will buy a home and move from low cost housing to middle income group housing. Then the next generation of middle income group dwellers will buy a home and move to suburbs and so on. It is a step by step process. It may take several generations and a 100 years before we can eradicate poverty in India.

It's like climbing a ladder, step by step. The step-by-step process would be village-city slums-city low cost housing-city middle income group housing-city suburbs. To move from village to suburbs would take several steps and several generations. It would require them to work long hours and save money to buy a home so that they can move to better housing. It may require them to work at two jobs so as to earn two incomes, so that they can save more money to buy a house.

No school in this world can teach you as much as life itself can. To a rural person, living in a city or city slum is an education in itself; and he/she is irreversibly changed. Even if the city slum dwellers return to the village they came from, they would still be changed by the city experience. If the government can afford it, then they should take villagers on a tour of cities once a year. The tour will be educational to the villagers; the changes to the villagers may subtle and unnoticeable, but the villagers will certainly be changed. Next, let the villagers decide whether they want to be town and city dwellers or village dwellers. Some may prefer the village, others the city. Some may succeed and some may fail. Those who succeed will inspire others to try. Those who keep trying will one day succeed.

The most important thing to remember is that, please do not wait for economic growth to reach your village. On the contrary, you should go to where the economic growth is: the cities. Indians are beginning to realize this and so the city population is swelling with migrants from the rural areas. While the world is not watching, daily, the rural folks are moving to the cities. It's a quiet revolution. India is changing daily. She is consolidating under urbanization. She is integrating under urbanization. ONE DAY INTO THE FUTURE, URBAN VOTERS WILL BECOME THE MAJORITY. When the urban voters are the majority, it will bring social, economic and political change.

Many Indians live is poverty. My heart is with them. Fortunately, there is good news. The cities are growing. India is urbanizing rapidly. I have already explained that urbanization will bring consolidation to India. India is not disintegrating. India is consolidating. Indians are integrating in the urban areas. The most important thing to remember is that a rural area that has growth will attract migrants and the rural area will itself become dense enough to turn into a town or even city: and this is how towns and cities came into being.

Do you know that there is a relationship between urbanization and population control. Japan is densely populated. Japan also has the highest literacy rate in the world; and also the highest life expectancy rate in the world. Her population is barely growing. The Japanese have very few children these days. One reason is EXPENDITURE. Housing and rent is high in cities as compared to villages. So, if you remove housing and rent expenditure from the income of city dwellers, the residual income is not much. When the residual income is reduced, the parents will immediately opt to have fewer children. Children are expensive. If you have many children, it will make you poor. It is residual income that will determine how many children you choose to have. It is not good to use political power and enforcement to achieve population control. Political coercion will only enrage the people. Expenditure of living in the city will work. Eventually urbanization will force the city dwellers to have fewer children. Eventually EXPENDITURE will force the city dwellers to have fewer children.

Urbanization is happening daily by itself. In economics, the market is the people who are buyers and sellers. It is best that we leave the market alone. It means that it is best that we leave the people alone. If they want to move from one location to another, then leave them alone. Yes, they will make mistakes. We all make mistakes. But they will also learn from their mistakes and improve. Just leave the market alone. Just leave the people alone. If urbanization continues, one day into the future urban voters will outnumber rural voters; and this will bring social, political, and economic change to India.

The good news is that there is nothing you or I have to do. Urbanization is happening by itself. Rural folks continue to move to the city daily. Yes, there is nothing you or I have to do. That's the good news. The following is a video footage produced by the United Nations Development Programme(UNDP), not me.
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Good to see Harper's plan to visit China. Please don't forget he is a just politician and whatever he did against China is a gimick for winning more votes from those hardliners in Canada.

This is a positive gesture from him and his gov't that the policy they have adopted in the last 3 years is wrong, and it is time to mend the fence.

Hopefully Harper will win another term next year. There is no one better than him for the post.

the examiner wrote:

Hopefully Harper will win another term next year. There is no one better than him for the post.

I like your optimism, but can you explain to me what leadership Harper has provided?

RayH wrote:

Stephen Harper is NOT welcome by the Chinese public, after 3 years as an anti-China nut.

entire world is against chinese commies,me included!

Cana wrote:

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I like your optimism, but can you explain to me what leadership Harper has provided?

Harper could not do much because his government is a minority government which can be a good thing in time of economic crisis like this. He has been prime minister for since 2006 (almost 4 years) so it's better to keep an experienced guy like him. The alternative would be to have Stephane Dion of the Liberals or Gilles Duceppe of Bloc Quebecois. Both are next to zero to me. Any one who aspires to be prime minister of Canada has to speak French and that is the whole problem. Thanks to Trudeau.

the examiner wrote:

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Harper could not do much because his government is a minority government which can be a good thing in time of economic crisis like this. He has been prime minister for since 2006 (almost 4 years) so it's better to keep an experienced guy like him. The alternative would be to have Stephane Dion of the Liberals or Gilles Duceppe of Bloc Quebecois. Both are next to zero to me. Any one who aspires to be prime minister of Canada has to speak French and that is the whole problem. Thanks to Trudeau.

Thanks for the in-depth knowledge on the Federal front!

superdelegate wrote:

<quoted text>entire world is against chinese commies,me included!

Why Harper goes to China? Do you make your opinions known to our gov't?

The world is against communist China? I don't think you should include the Canadian gov't.

InfoSharing wrote:

<quoted text>Why Harper goes to China? Do you make your opinions known to our gov't?
The world is against communist China? I don't think you should include the Canadian gov't.

if i know this it means canadian gov't knows also.
did you know that in china you can buy human body parts,their political prisoners get killed each day,need a kidney go to china?

blah blah blah with all the racist and hate posts. Sick of it! Topix should stop this abuses!

superdelegate wrote:

<quoted text>if i know this it means canadian gov't knows also.
did you know that in china you can buy human body parts,their political prisoners get killed each day,need a kidney go to china?

You assume you know a lot about China. Have you been to China and see it for yourself?
You also assume that other people know less about China than you.
Okay. Assume what you say is true. Is it a popular practice? Is it legal? Are these illegal acts committed only by a few in the country and the gov't tries to stop it?
Just like what some China haters in this website say: Chinese eat dogs, cats, and babies. Is it practised by ALL Chinese? Is it illegal and the offenders will be indicted?
My advise to you: Go there to see before you make such ridiculous comments about China.

Joel wrote:

blah blah blah with all the racist and hate posts. Sick of it! Topix should stop this abuses!

Definitely, these racists are ignorant and biased.

Do you think they are interested in seeing the real China themselves? No, they want to believe in a fictitious China that the media, including Hollywood, creates.

InfoSharing wrote:

<quoted text>Definitely, these racists are ignorant and biased.
Do you think they are interested in seeing the real China themselves? No, they want to believe in a fictitious China that the media, including Hollywood, creates.

Think the anti-China racist idiots will have a field day when the remake of the 1984 movie "Red Dawn" comes out in Sept. 2010, this time with the Chinese invading U.S.

superdelegate wrote:

<quoted text>if i know this it means canadian gov't knows also.
did you know that in china you can buy human body parts,their political prisoners get killed each day,need a kidney go to china?

You got to be a Falun Gong nut job to believe those stories.

superdelegate wrote:

<quoted text>entire world is against chinese commies,me included!

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Chinese and Chinese commies are different. Chinese are an anbitious people. I hope I am not wrong to say that capitalism is gaining ground in China at the expense of the Communist Party of China.

The South East Asian nations are mostly non-communist. The Chinese population has been living in South East Asia for several generations. The Chinese Diaspora in South East Asia are well represented in the economies of South East Asia. They have good work ethics.

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levelheaded wrote:

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Chinese and Chinese commies are different. Chinese are an anbitious people. I hope I am not wrong to say that capitalism is gaining ground in China at the expense of the Communist Party of China.
The South East Asian nations are mostly non-communist. The Chinese population has been living in South East Asia for several generations. The Chinese Diaspora in South East Asia are well represented in the economies of South East Asia. They have good work ethics.
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More than 10 years when I met my colleagues of the Shanghai Office (of an American firm), I found that they are as capitalistic and flexible as anyone in Los Angeles, Hong Kong, Taipei or Singapore. After 10 more years, I think no many communists left in this country.

My colleagues then were very interested in knowing more about the world. They definitely were not the types of people who were so ignorant and could be brainwashed by any government. Some of them were graduates of British or North American universities.

Saying that all Chinese were brainwashed by the government is just a silly means employed by the Chinese haters and separatists living overseas to smear these intelligent people . It is obvious.

InfoSharing wrote:

<quoted text>More than 10 years when I met my colleagues of the Shanghai Office (of an American firm), I found that they are as capitalistic and flexible as anyone in Los Angeles, Hong Kong, Taipei or Singapore. After 10 more years, I think no many communists left in this country.
My colleagues then were very interested in knowing more about the world. They definitely were not the types of people who were so ignorant and could be brainwashed by any government. Some of them were graduates of British or North American universities.
Saying that all Chinese were brainwashed by the government is just a silly means employed by the Chinese haters and separatists living overseas to smear these intelligent people . It is obvious.

There are NO real Communists left in China now, as China turned Capitalist back in 1992. The last "real Communist" I've personally met in China was back in 1995 and this is 2009 now.