The case for military action on Zimbabwe

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Sekerenyana wrote:

In 1988, I was in Zimbabwe when , the then racist SADF attacked Harare. Mugabe ordered twelve MIG 21 warplanes from USSR. He made this statement on the arrival of the planes: ".....the boers should know that another attack on Zimbabwe, will be equally retributted on Pretoria...."
Zimbabwe's army cannot be conquered within less than a week as it was a case with our army....Ask the rebel Congolese at Lumumbashi, what happened when the Zimbabweans arrived to prop up Kabila regime......It is clear Harare is spoiling for that! We do not need a civil war in this region, chief.

mmmmmm wrote:

That is the only option that befit mohanyapetsi ea senang kelello. I am giving him 2 weeks ba tla mo otla UN/OU resolution e le teng kapo e le siko khale ba mo batla now they have a valid excuse to hit him. Watch this space!

MoAfrika FM wrote:

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The likes of Saddam, Mubutu,Leabua, Taylor, Idi Amin, Osama Bin Laden(Taliban Extremists) etc, were swearing that nobody could topple them.Mugabe is just making noise. If Brown and Bush or Nigeria could resort to force, Mugabe could be in South Africa within 2 days.
Tlohella ho rorisa satane ena e tso`anang le MCCD!!!!

MoAfrika FM wrote:

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The likes of Saddam, Mubutu,Leabua, Taylor, Idi Amin, Osama Bin Laden(Taliban Extremists) etc, were swearing that nobody could topple them.Mugabe is just making noise. If Brown and Bush or Nigeria could resort to force, Mugabe could be in South Africa within 2 days.
Tlohella ho rorisa satane ena e tso`anang le MCCD!!!!

Sekerenyana wrote:

In 1988, I was in Zimbabwe when , the then racist SADF attacked Harare. Mugabe ordered twelve MIG 21 warplanes from USSR. He made this statement on the arrival of the planes: ".....the boers should know that another attack on Zimbabwe, will be equally retributted on Pretoria...."
Zimbabwe's army cannot be conquered within less than a week as it was a case with our army....Ask the rebel Congolese at Lumumbashi, what happened when the Zimbabweans arrived to prop up Kabila regime......It is clear Harare is spoiling for that! We do not need a civil war in this region, chief.

Sixpence wrote:

I remember when Mugabe sent 4 of his precious Hawk jets to do a flypast in Kinshasa for Kabilla. Incredibly they didnt bother to calculate how much fuel to put in the planes for the flight and they crashed in the jungle.

Oa Bochabela wrote:

Mugabe is hell-bent on going down with the people of Zimbabwe, he does not care how much blood will be spilled in the process (much has been spilled already). He has no credibility left and no reputation to uphold.
Declaring war on Zimbabwe would be playing right into his hands - that is exactly what he wants. He has lost the diplomatic/political war and the only thing left at his disposal is brute military force and he is raring to use it. By the way, winning or losing in that scenario would mean absolutely nothing to him.
Having said that, just WHO would go in militarily into Zim? SADC does not have the means or the will. AU does not have the means either; they can't even keep the peace in Darfur. The UN has become toothless. US and UK? Ask them about Afghanistan, ask about Iraq. What did they achieve in Somalia? What did military intervention achieve in DRC? Burundi? The list is endless.
Sadly, though, I do not have the answers either. Ordinarily I would have suggested a negotiated settlement but with Mugabe's intrasigence and brinkmanship I have little faith that that would work either.
God Save Zimbabwe!

Max wrote:

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Just for your information, Mobutu and Idi Amin died peacefully without facing any justice because they were protected by the same powers that you have so much trust on. As for Saddam, I would like to remind you that in the 80's, he was america's ally (Rumsfeld even undertook a diplomatic visit to Saddam) and they supplied chemical weapons to him to kill Iranians and the Kurds (nobody bothered to say anything at the time). When it comes to Bin Laden, apart from family links (because of oil deals) between bush's family and the Bin Ladens, Al Qaida is a direct creation of CIA because they wanted to help Afghanistan drive off the Russians. The irony is, they, with their monies, trained him personally and suddenly Bin Laden is the enemy of the whole world. I feel sorry that some of us fall for everything written by the west mainstream media.
By the way, the Taliban were put in power by the Americans earlier on in the fight against the Russians and now, as we speak, it is difficult for invasion forces to crack them down because the Taliban have started deveopmental projects on that part of Afghanistan where they have their strongholds and of course ordinarry people value them. This, you will never see on the BBC.

Shandi wrote:

I agree war is not the answer, but when dealing
with someone like Mugabe it makes a person wonder
how else are you going to get him out. Dialog is
not doing the trick, the world shouts and protests
about releasing election results, 4 weeks later
nothing - Mugabe does not care what the world thinks!!! He lost the election he knows it the rest of the world knows, but he is still there and still acting as President. Rallying his army of thugs to beat and torture ruling by fear. As much as a person does not wish for more anguish - I am beginning to think this maybe the only way to get him out. By the time this tyrant leaves Zimbabwe will be the same as their historical site "Zimbabwe Ruins" just a shell!

Max wrote:

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Just for your information, Mobutu and Idi Amin died peacefully without facing any justice because they were protected by the same powers that you have so much trust on. As for Saddam, I would like to remind you that in the 80's, he was america's ally (Rumsfeld even undertook a diplomatic visit to Saddam) and they supplied chemical weapons to him to kill Iranians and the Kurds (nobody bothered to say anything at the time). When it comes to Bin Laden, apart from family links (because of oil deals) between bush's family and the Bin Ladens, Al Qaida is a direct creation of CIA because they wanted to help Afghanistan drive off the Russians. The irony is, they, with their monies, trained him personally and suddenly Bin Laden is the enemy of the whole world. I feel sorry that some of us fall for everything written by the west mainstream media.
By the way, the Taliban were put in power by the Americans earlier on in the fight against the Russians and now, as we speak, it is difficult for invasion forces to crack them down because the Taliban have started deveopmental projects on that part of Afghanistan where they have their strongholds and of course ordinarry people value them. This, you will never see on the BBC.

Shandi wrote:

I agree war is not the answer, but when dealing
with someone like Mugabe it makes a person wonder
how else are you going to get him out. Dialog is
not doing the trick, the world shouts and protests
about releasing election results, 4 weeks later
nothing - Mugabe does not care what the world thinks!!! He lost the election he knows it the rest of the world knows, but he is still there and still acting as President. Rallying his army of thugs to beat and torture ruling by fear. As much as a person does not wish for more anguish - I am beginning to think this maybe the only way to get him out. By the time this tyrant leaves Zimbabwe will be the same as their historical site "Zimbabwe Ruins" just a shell!

Lechesa wrote:

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Ke qala ho utloa u bua litaba tsa 'nete lecongress tooe! Kekkekekekekeke!!! Kea bona Molimo o ntse a u etela ka nako e'ngoe.
Makhooa ana ehlile ke ona a ntse a tlisa masepa Africa mona. Ke bona ba re qabanyang ha ba qeta ba etse eka hoja re itsoere joaloka liphoofolo. Hopola hore na a ile a fa macongress libetsa joang hore a loants'e muso oa BNP!! Bo-'Mamasela!!