What Does Iran's Green Movement Want From Obama?

just like every green movement on the earth - they want usa to reduce production of CO and CO2.

Obama is casting his lot with the mad mullahs in Iran instead of the people in the street demanding freedom from the mullahs.

The Iranians have discovered something that millions of Americans have not figured out yet.

Obama is an idiot.

Mac-7 wrote:

Obama is casting his lot with the mad mullahs in Iran instead of the people in the street demanding freedom from the mullahs.
The Iranians have discovered something that millions of Americans have not figured out yet.
Obama is an idiot.

Still infinitely more intelligent than any and all American president before him , Except Licoln and Washington , may be , I am not sure..

Alishir wrote:

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Still infinitely more intelligent than any and all American president before him , Except Licoln and Washington , may be , I am not sure..

You are entitled to your opinion.

But what you base that on is beyond me.

Obama becomes goofy when he has to summon his own thoughts instead of reading from a teleprompter.

He's never invented anything and never done anything notable except get elected to public office.

I can think of many presidents that have had a more profound impact on history than Obama has.

Alishir wrote:

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Still infinitely more intelligent than any and all American president before him , Except Licoln and Washington , may be , I am not sure..

R U Nuts ?

Most president start their presidency with a convieniant war some where.All did just that.You read about some and they kept some others from you. This is called by war mongers as Presindetial right of passage.

Obama has not done that and will not.

Not doing eveil by an American president is a very new thing in American system of government. And that is good enough for me . Afghan Iraq are not his doing , so no point to write about them , Ask Bush for these wars.

Alishir wrote:

Most president start their presidency with a convieniant war some where.All did just that.You read about some and they kept some others from you. This is called by war mongers as Presindetial right of passage.
Obama has not done that and will not.
Not doing eveil by an American president is a very new thing in American system of government. And that is good enough for me . Afghan Iraq are not his doing , so no point to write about them , Ask Bush for these wars.

Obama supported the war in Afghanistan.

But he doesn't have any real principiles.

He's just weak and bends to the strongest wind.

Which in this case is the anti-war left in his own party.

It only comes from a simple minded humanbeing to think Obama has the say. Iran is not like Iraq. We are different .He puts one foot in our door,not just him, the whole USA is history. They(Obama's puppetiers) are already in deep problem at home and all over the world for invading Iraq for having weapons of mass destruction!,for war in Afghanistan,for Pakistan,for creating 911 and now Iran? You have to understand that Obama or whoever who is sitting on the hot seat does not give a shit to the will of people of Iran as to what they want. I Obama's owners are calculating the risk that is invlolved in deaing with Iran.Obama wants to know how much reputation he can buy for Americans by imposing a war on Iran.If having a war brings Americans out of reccession, he will do it .They are not playing a game with Iran they are just ambushing.We Iraninas, want to kick East and West both at the same time out of our lives.We want a GREEN NATIONAL government and without anybody's help. We want Obama and whoever else to get the hell out of our system and leave our problems to us and let us decide. FREEDOM and JUSTICE, that's what we want from ourselves not from Obama!!

Seq wrote:

just like every green movement on the earth - they want usa to reduce production of CO and CO2.

i'm sorry,but iranian green movement has nothing to do with the other green movement!

Nina Sarkhosh wrote:

It only comes from a simple minded humanbeing to think Obama has the say. Iran is not like Iraq. We are different .He puts one foot in our door,not just him, the whole USA is history. They(Obama's puppetiers) are already in deep problem at home and all over the world for invading Iraq for having weapons of mass destruction!,for war in Afghanistan,for Pakistan,for creating 911 and now Iran? You have to understand that Obama or whoever who is sitting on the hot seat does not give a shit to the will of people of Iran as to what they want. I Obama's owners are calculating the risk that is invlolved in deaing with Iran.Obama wants to know how much reputation he can buy for Americans by imposing a war on Iran.If having a war brings Americans out of reccession, he will do it .They are not playing a game with Iran they are just ambushing.We Iraninas, want to kick East and West both at the same time out of our lives.We want a GREEN NATIONAL government and without anybody's help. We want Obama and whoever else to get the hell out of our system and leave our problems to us and let us decide. FREEDOM and JUSTICE, that's what we want from ourselves not from Obama!!

"You have to understand that Obama or whoever who is sitting on the hot seat does not give a shit to the will of people of Iran as to what they want."

Bush cared.

He was the only world leader to have the courage to condemn the mad mullahs in Iran.

And when he did liberals in America and the spineless Euro's were outraged that he would call Iran part of the Axis of Evil.

Liberals resisted Bush's efforts to put pressure on the dictators of Iran.

If Bush were still in office he would not have ignored the killing of the protestors the way Obama did.

I think Obama is wasting time and he must take some action. He is not strong enough and he doesn't have the strength and self-confidence to take a serious action.

Kamal wrote:

I think Obama is wasting time and he must take some action. He is not strong enough and he doesn't have the strength and self-confidence to take a serious action.

Thing is if he does anything Jarhead will just execute all of them for "Working for the US".

And whoever said they were an environmentalist group... Please tell me you're joking. If not please get off the internet.

Mac-7 wrote:

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"You have to understand that Obama or whoever who is sitting on the hot seat does not give a shit to the will of people of Iran as to what they want."
Bush cared.
He was the only world leader to have the courage to condemn the mad mullahs in Iran.

(You know most of the "Mad Mullahs" are siding with the Protesters right?)

Mac-7 wrote:

And when he did liberals in America and the spineless Euro's were outraged that he would call Iran part of the Axis of Evil.
Liberals resisted Bush's efforts to put pressure on the dictators of Iran.
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If Bush were still in office he would not have ignored the killing of the protestors the way Obama did.

What he would have launched ANOTHER INVASION? WITH WHAT?

Amadjarhead wouldn't even BE IN OFFICE IF IT WASN'T FOR US CALLING THEM THE "AXIS OF EVIL".

Or did you know that? The reformist government was running Iran at the time around 9/11. They were FOR the "War on Terror" they were willing to back us 100%, what did Bush do? Declare them "In on it" letting Jarhead and the "Iran Revolutionary Guard"(Which is in fact a State Corporation) take over the nation. He got in swearing he'd "Protect them" from the "terrorist Americans".

Well I guess you're happy, the "Mad Mullahs" aren't in charge now, now it's the "Mad Military nuts and end timers".

A Watcher wrote:

<quoted text>(You know most of the "Mad Mullahs" are siding with the Protesters right?)
<quoted text>What he would have launched ANOTHER INVASION? WITH WHAT?
Amadjarhead wouldn't even BE IN OFFICE IF IT WASN'T FOR US CALLING THEM THE "AXIS OF EVIL".
Or did you know that? The reformist government was running Iran at the time around 9/11. They were FOR the "War on Terror" they were willing to back us 100%, what did Bush do? Declare them "In on it" letting Jarhead and the "Iran Revolutionary Guard"(Which is in fact a State Corporation) take over the nation. He got in swearing he'd "Protect them" from the "terrorist Americans".
Well I guess you're happy, the "Mad Mullahs" aren't in charge now, now it's the "Mad Military nuts and end timers".

"You know most of the "Mad Mullahs" are siding with the Protesters right?)"

I don't know that.

But they must not be the mullahs with the power, because the really mad mullahs are arresting and shooting the protestors.

"Amadjarhead wouldn't even BE IN OFFICE IF IT WASN'T FOR US CALLING THEM THE "AXIS OF EVIL"."

The Iraniam regime is part of the Axis of Evil whether anyone in the West has the courage to say so or not.

But now matter who the mullahs allow to hold office he is only a figurehead.

They are the real power.

And don't believe that nonsense about Bush driving them to it.

The Iranians may be crazy but they aren't weak minded.

If they were willing to cooperate with the outside world in a peaceful manner they could have gotten past a few blunt words from Bush.

Nina Sarkhosh wrote:

It only comes from a simple minded humanbeing to think Obama has the say. Iran is not like Iraq. We are different .He puts one foot in our door,not just him, the whole USA is history. They(Obama's puppetiers) are already in deep problem at home and all over the world for invading Iraq for having weapons of mass destruction!,for war in Afghanistan,for Pakistan,for creating 911 and now Iran? You have to understand that Obama or whoever who is sitting on the hot seat does not give a shit to the will of people of Iran as to what they want. I Obama's owners are calculating the risk that is invlolved in deaing with Iran.Obama wants to know how much reputation he can buy for Americans by imposing a war on Iran.If having a war brings Americans out of reccession, he will do it .They are not playing a game with Iran they are just ambushing.We Iraninas, want to kick East and West both at the same time out of our lives.We want a GREEN NATIONAL government and without anybody's help. We want Obama and whoever else to get the hell out of our system and leave our problems to us and let us decide. FREEDOM and JUSTICE, that's what we want from ourselves not from Obama!!

Well said,Good luck.peace

Mac-7 wrote:

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"You know most of the "Mad Mullahs" are siding with the Protesters right?)"
I don't know that.
But they must not be the mullahs with the power, because the really mad mullahs are arresting and shooting the protestors.

The Basij isn't under the control of mullahs though, they take orders from the IRG who takes orders from Ahmad, the Mullahs aren't part of the Chain of command.

Mac-7 wrote:

The Iraniam regime is part of the Axis of Evil whether anyone in the West has the courage to say so or not.

Because we don't like them, I got it, can't really hold the moral high ground over them though, they've been doings the same stuff we do.

Mac-7 wrote:

But now matter who the mullahs allow to hold office he is only a figurehead.
They are the real power.

Not anymore, the IRG snatched it out from under them the "Council" just got told that they have no power over the Supreme leader and since the Supreme leader backs Jarhead they have no power over him. The IRG meanwhile, just took over several parts of the media and they are infiltrating the schools. The IRG is loyal to Ahmad, not the mullahs.

Mac-7 wrote:

And don't believe that nonsense about Bush driving them to it.
The Iranians may be crazy but they aren't weak minded.
If they were willing to cooperate with the outside world in a peaceful manner they could have gotten past a few blunt words from Bush.

A few "Blunt words"? Note that one of the nation's on Bush's "Axis of Evil" had just been invaded, so to them he bluntly said "You're next on my list to Conquer" Jarhead promised he'd make the US think twice, then proceeded to oppress everyone and toss money to the likes of Hezbollah and the Shia militias to destabilize everything.

Reasoning? If Israel and the US were stuck fighting insurgencies and terrorists they couldn't attack Iran.

Of course at the same time Ahmad and his lackies destroyed Iran's economy and started oppressing everyone.

Lastly, like Bush, God also talks to him...

We cannot afford to go there....

A Watcher wrote:

<quoted text>The Basij isn't under the control of mullahs though, they take orders from the IRG who takes orders from Ahmad, the Mullahs aren't part of the Chain of command.
<quoted text> Because we don't like them, I got it, can't really hold the moral high ground over them though, they've been doings the same stuff we do.
<quoted text> Not anymore, the IRG snatched it out from under them the "Council" just got told that they have no power over the Supreme leader and since the Supreme leader backs Jarhead they have no power over him. The IRG meanwhile, just took over several parts of the media and they are infiltrating the schools. The IRG is loyal to Ahmad, not the mullahs.
<quoted text> A few "Blunt words"? Note that one of the nation's on Bush's "Axis of Evil" had just been invaded, so to them he bluntly said "You're next on my list to Conquer" Jarhead promised he'd make the US think twice, then proceeded to oppress everyone and toss money to the likes of Hezbollah and the Shia militias to destabilize everything.
Reasoning? If Israel and the US were stuck fighting insurgencies and terrorists they couldn't attack Iran.
Of course at the same time Ahmad and his lackies destroyed Iran's economy and started oppressing everyone.
Lastly, like Bush, God also talks to him...

You are being far to kind to the Iranians.

Whether the Republican Guard takes orders from the mullahs or the other way around there is a click of madmen running Iran.

And that defective mental condition preceeded Bush.

Now they are twisting Obama into knots and slaughtering their own people.

So don't blame Bush for this mess.

Years ago Bush tried to organize the spineless Euro's to put real pressure on Iran and they waffled.

Now the situation is getting really serious and libs want to deny their own guilt for letting it go this far.

Mac-7 wrote:

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You are being far to kind to the Iranians.

I believe you are being too harsh, it's not the same Iran as the one in 1979.

Mac-7 wrote:

Whether the Republican Guard takes orders from the mullahs or the other way around there is a click of madmen running Iran.
And that defective mental condition preceeded Bush.

Not this one, the Mullahs had this illusion of an Islamic Utopia, Ahmadinejad thinks he's on a mission from god to bring the 12th Inman and cause the Apocalypse.

Mac-7 wrote:

Now they are twisting Obama into knots and slaughtering their own people.

They haven't reached the point of slaughter... yet.
The regime is too busy trying to pretend they AREN'T run by a nutcase, open slaughter would ruin that image.

Mac-7 wrote:

So don't blame Bush for this mess.
Years ago Bush tried to organize the spineless Euro's to put real pressure on Iran and they waffled.

What "Real Pressure?" I've already made it quite clear how Iran reacted to "Pressure".

You realize that US "pressure" post 2003 is what made Ahmadinejad so important. He became the "Leader against US Imperialism" (Their words not mine)

Because of being on the "Axis of Evil", every nation with a grudge against the US embraced them, and he rallied them behind him, from locals to the terrorist groups located in the ass end of nowhere.

Our "Pressure" only made him stronger, What happened to Iraq and Ahmadinejad's beliefs told them that it doesn't matter what you do, if the US wants to get you they'll make up a reason, so the only way to 'survive' was to unite against the US. Ahmadinejad stood up to be their leader. At home, with people other than his hard core supporters, he's hated, abroad among all our "Enemies" (Well I doubt Al Qaeda) he's a hero.

And who made him a hero? Who gave him a platform to rise to power? Who gave him the title of "Enemy of the US"?

Who do you think...

Mac-7 wrote:

Now the situation is getting really serious and libs want to deny their own guilt for letting it go this far.

And it wouldn't have worked, and an invasion\war would be just as bad as Iraq.
Like the person who posted earlier, Iran doesn't want to be controlled by the US, nor does it want to be controlled by Russia, and they don't want to be controlled by power mad lunatics either, they want to control their own fate.

The silence is deafening...