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Tuesday Nov 3 | Posted by: abesha

Ethiopia: Starving for Freedom

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( Ethiopian Music, News ) - Blame famine on trade restrictions, not on climate change or a lack of Western aid . Today is World Food Day and, once again, millions of people in East Africa are starving. Some have sought to turn this tragedy into opportunity. Ethiopia’s Prime Minister Meles Zenawi blames Western-induced climate change, and demands that rich countries cut greenhouse gas emissions and provide more aid. These views are echoed by the World Bank, Oxfam, Christian Aid and that bellwether of bad ideas, Gordon Brown. But such top-down solutions are doomed to failure. If Africans are to to weather their existing and future climates, the solutions must come from the bottom up.

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Do you agree or disagree with the viewpoint that solutions must come from the bottom up?(intelligent answers only)
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I think the solution for Ethiopia and all underdeveloped 3rd world countries in general food crisis very simple really...Ethiopia needs much more development and industrialization to create more jobs for it's people in addition to modernizing it's the mechanims it uses to produce food and it's water supply...
From my understanding most Ethiopians live in very rural villages with few resources and little infrastructure(no electricity or running water).

It's no coincidence that in addition to being one of the poorest and most food insecure nations in the world Ethiopia is also among the most rural....The more urbanize countries are the less chance of famine.

Instead of rural farmers reallying soley on the rains for their harvest a water company should be put in place to build the infrastructure need to serve all rural Ethiopians water needs..That way instead of reallying on the rains for harvest or a river for drinking water rural Ethiopians could water their gardern with a hose or drink out of a community water fountain,et Instead of rural famers eating hand to mouth reallying solely on what they grow for their food supply and income the government should import more foods from other counties and put atleast one supermarket in every village...Ethiopia needs to create more jobs and opportunities for it's citizens and put to use it's most important resource: it's people..Ethiopia has Africans 2nd biggest population...IMO for now until and just to create more jobs those people even the uneducated could be put to work in factories like the Chinese and Asians do and build Ethiopian made products that are sold for cheap to other nations.

Ethiopians need to realise with global climate change and the world changing everyday Ethiopians can't no longer afford to live the traditional rural Ethiopian way of life and survive..But most importantly Ethiopia needs leaders that are capable and willing to implement all my suggestions to better it's peoples lives.

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c diddy wrote:
I think the solution for Ethiopia and all underdeveloped 3rd world countries in general food crisis very simple really...Ethiopia needs much more development and industrialization to create more jobs for it's people in addition to modernizing it's the mechanims it uses to produce food and it's water supply...
From my understanding most Ethiopians live in very rural villages with few resources and little infrastructure(no electricity or running water).
It's no coincidence that in addition to being one of the poorest and most food insecure nations in the world Ethiopia is also among the most rural....The more urbanize countries are the less chance of famine.
Instead of rural farmers reallying soley on the rains for their harvest a water company should be put in place to build the infrastructure need to serve all rural Ethiopians water needs..That way instead of reallying on the rains for harvest or a river for drinking water rural Ethiopians could water their gardern with a hose or drink out of a community water fountain,et Instead of rural famers eating hand to mouth reallying solely on what they grow for their food supply and income the government should import more foods from other counties and put atleast one supermarket in every village...Ethiopia needs to create more jobs and opportunities for it's citizens and put to use it's most important resource: it's people..Ethiopia has Africans 2nd biggest population...IMO for now until and just to create more jobs those people even the uneducated could be put to work in factories like the Chinese and Asians do and build Ethiopian made products that are sold for cheap to other nations.
Ethiopians need to realise with global climate change and the world changing everyday Ethiopians can't no longer afford to live the traditional rural Ethiopian way of life and survive..But most importantly Ethiopia needs leaders that are capable and willing to implement all my suggestions to better it's peoples lives.
Interesting post. You made reference to tradition vs. urban transition or industrialization. Do you believe that perhaps both could strengthen the infrastructure?
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c diddy wrote:
I think the solution for Ethiopia and all underdeveloped 3rd world countries in general food crisis very simple really...Ethiopia needs much more development and industrialization to create more jobs for it's people in addition to modernizing it's the mechanims it uses to produce food and it's water supply...
From my understanding most Ethiopians live in very rural villages with few resources and little infrastructure(no electricity or running water).
It's no coincidence that in addition to being one of the poorest and most food insecure nations in the world Ethiopia is also among the most rural....The more urbanize countries are the less chance of famine.
Instead of rural farmers reallying soley on the rains for their harvest a water company should be put in place to build the infrastructure need to serve all rural Ethiopians water needs..That way instead of reallying on the rains for harvest or a river for drinking water rural Ethiopians could water their gardern with a hose or drink out of a community water fountain,et Instead of rural famers eating hand to mouth reallying solely on what they grow for their food supply and income the government should import more foods from other counties and put atleast one supermarket in every village...Ethiopia needs to create more jobs and opportunities for it's citizens and put to use it's most important resource: it's people..Ethiopia has Africans 2nd biggest population...IMO for now until and just to create more jobs those people even the uneducated could be put to work in factories like the Chinese and Asians do and build Ethiopian made products that are sold for cheap to other nations.
Ethiopians need to realise with global climate change and the world changing everyday Ethiopians can't no longer afford to live the traditional rural Ethiopian way of life and survive..But most importantly Ethiopia needs leaders that are capable and willing to implement all my suggestions to better it's peoples lives.
EXCELLENT POST.
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Princess Lovable S wrote:
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Interesting post. You made reference to tradition vs. urban transition or industrialization. Do you believe that perhaps both could strengthen the infrastructure?
i don't see why not....it is possible to maintain culture/tradition while living a modern life...It happens all the time in developed places like China or the Mid East,etc...The most important thing is Ethiopia needs more development/infrastructure,etc ...Most those things come with urbanization/industrialiation.
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EXCELLENT POST.
thanks....the solutions to Ethiopia's ills seem so simple that to me that i'm confuses as why the powers that be running the country haven't implemented similar projects along time ago..but it's probably easier said than done.
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thanks....the solutions to Ethiopia's ills seem so simple that to me that i'm confuses as why the powers that be running the country haven't implemented similar projects along time ago..but it's probably easier said than done.
If the priority of the power to be is entrenching itself in running the country based on in one ethnic domination and only trying strengthen their base to rule, then the concern for the country as a whole will be left in the wayside. It is so obvious that with unpredictable rain based farming system, as well as, with the state owning the land and with ever exploding population is liable to bring a disastrous consequence of famine. in addition, since this government have a conflicting interest, such as providing fertiliser to the favoured one, that is, to those who are going to vote for its candidates, thus assuring its strong hold on power, one can see where such a policy will lead. Beside, the very government has perfected the art of begging for aid, while they are lining their pocket with money and the left over being deposited. in other words, nobody care, since it is a fetal acceptance by these collection of so called leaders of the fact that the ever coming of famine is inevitable. At least, that is what it looks likes to me. I hope, I am wrong. But so far that is what it looks.

What I am trying to point out is that the present government's interest, like that of the many past and present African despots and dictators are interested only on grandiose eye catching structures, such as the ring road, which circles the city, rather than spending the money and the energy on such life saving infrastructure. Oh well, this is a hopeless situation and this is just the tip of the iceberg and more is to come. I pray, the power to be will have the care to do something, since the leadership of Ethiopia have the giver and taker of life.
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getu wrote:
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If the priority of the power to be is entrenching itself in running the country based on in one ethnic domination and only trying strengthen their base to rule, then the concern for the country as a whole will be left in the wayside. It is so obvious that with unpredictable rain based farming system, as well as, with the state owning the land and with ever exploding population is liable to bring a disastrous consequence of famine. in addition, since this government have a conflicting interest, such as providing fertiliser to the favoured one, that is, to those who are going to vote for its candidates, thus assuring its strong hold on power, one can see where such a policy will lead. Beside, the very government has perfected the art of begging for aid, while they are lining their pocket with money and the left over being deposited. in other words, nobody care, since it is a fetal acceptance by these collection of so called leaders of the fact that the ever coming of famine is inevitable. At least, that is what it looks likes to me. I hope, I am wrong. But so far that is what it looks.
What I am trying to point out is that the present government's interest, like that of the many past and present African despots and dictators are interested only on grandiose eye catching structures, such as the ring road, which circles the city, rather than spending the money and the energy on such life saving infrastructure. Oh well, this is a hopeless situation and this is just the tip of the iceberg and more is to come. I pray, the power to be will have the care to do something, since the leadership of Ethiopia have the giver and taker of life.
sounds like the same old worn out tragic tribalism/ powrer hungry dictator story that has plagued Africa for far to long to me.

that's another thing i forgot to mention... for Ethiopia to prosper their needs be more unity amd cooperation amongst the people...instead of fighting over resources sharing and trading with eachother makes so much more sense..I don't know much about Ethiopia relations but from the little i've read on this board and limited reseach i've done it sounds like tribalsim is a big problem there which suprised me...believe it or not i always thought Ethipians were one ethnic group poor but united.

I do agree on one thing it seems like the current(and past) Ethiopian leaders either don't care about development in certain parts(the vast majority) of the country if not outright oppossed to it...i'm not sure if these is cause of tribalism, corruption, incompetense, resistance to change or a combination of all three...what i do know is ther are powers that be that don't want to see Ethiopia(and Africa in general) develop or prosper cause an propsperous Ethiopia/Africa makes it harder to exploit and shatters racist myths that Africans aren't smart enough to independently govern modern nations...this is why the Western always overemphasized Ethiopia's current poverty as if that is the nations whole story and ignores Ethiopias rich history of kingdoms/civilizations as they never existed...I was really shocked to recently learn Ethiopia has ancient castles that are built much more sophisticated than many current Ethiopian homes.

these powers that be want to keep Africa poor and uneducated so can they can exploit you and rob the land of resources while reinforcing thier racist Anglo superiority/African inferiority myth....it dosn't suprise me that Amerikkka(and Europe) supports Ethiopia's current government that is failing it's people miserably..Ethiopia's ills are by design not accident..

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c diddy wrote:
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i don't see why not....it is possible to maintain culture/tradition while living a modern life...It happens all the time in developed places like China or the Mid East,etc...The most important thing is Ethiopia needs more development/infrastructure,etc ...Most those things come with urbanization/industrialiation.
Indeed. However, for many countries urbanization has been equated with Westernization.

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getu wrote:
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If the priority of the power to be is entrenching itself in running the country based on in one ethnic domination and only trying strengthen their base to rule, then the concern for the country as a whole will be left in the wayside. It is so obvious that with unpredictable rain based farming system, as well as, with the state owning the land and with ever exploding population is liable to bring a disastrous consequence of famine. in addition, since this government have a conflicting interest, such as providing fertiliser to the favoured one, that is, to those who are going to vote for its candidates, thus assuring its strong hold on power, one can see where such a policy will lead. Beside, the very government has perfected the art of begging for aid, while they are lining their pocket with money and the left over being deposited. in other words, nobody care, since it is a fetal acceptance by these collection of so called leaders of the fact that the ever coming of famine is inevitable. At least, that is what it looks likes to me. I hope, I am wrong. But so far that is what it looks.
What I am trying to point out is that the present government's interest, like that of the many past and present African despots and dictators are interested only on grandiose eye catching structures, such as the ring road, which circles the city, rather than spending the money and the energy on such life saving infrastructure. Oh well, this is a hopeless situation and this is just the tip of the iceberg and more is to come. I pray, the power to be will have the care to do something, since the leadership of Ethiopia have the giver and taker of life.
Interesting. Do you believe that China is the solution to strengthening the infrastructure, the shift of 'powers' representing the 'two governmental branches'-- the TPLF and the EPRDF, or etc.? Explain.
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how interesting story is that hah? you guys are funy. this is 21century you still talking about food insecurity.com e on guys wake up and stop sleeping over and over again.you cant walk and sleep at the same time.at least try to do some thing.
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how interesting story is that hah? you guys are funy. this is 21century you still talking about food insecurity.com e on guys wake up and stop sleeping over and over again.you cant walk and sleep at the same time.at least try to do some thing.
Yes, it is the 21st century. It seems someone is still in the mindset of the past century

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tumbuktu wrote:
how interesting story is that hah? you guys are funy. this is 21century you still talking about food insecurity.com e on guys wake up and stop sleeping over and over again.you cant walk and sleep at the same time.at least try to do some thing.
Well, that is what people are trying to do. Black folk need to study the principles of cooperation sometimes. We are focusing upon collaborative efforts here.
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