China Hails Reform of Death Penalty

Yes, but what is their idea of serious and vile criminals?

They make a way for the most corrupted officers to surive.

Death sentence must be replaced by life imprisonment. Any manual system of justice is not perfect, neither it can be.

The CCP regime's several decades of ruling has been full of struggle, hatred, killing, chaos caused by war, lies and fear, and even 80 million people's lives have been lost.

"I love my country China and I truly hope she will be really prosperous, strong, democratic and civilized. I hate the ruling of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)- it uses lies and violence to abuse the people. What I hate the most about the CCP is that it totally destroyed the nation's outstanding traditional culture. We can eradicate poverty but how do we save our lost culture. Nowadays in China, people laugh at morality and culture. People lie all the time and hooligans are everywhere. The officials are thieves. Officials collude with the mafia and rich people to exploit the common people. Justice is being trampled and evil is being praised. I am neither a Falun Gong practitioner nor a victim of the Tiananmen Square Massacre, but I am a righteous Chinese. I had joined the Communist Youth League but now have I quit it. My father Li Wenda and my favorite teacher from elementary school Xie Mingxia are both members of the CCP. I am here to help them announce their withdrawals from the CCP. "

Li Ming, Li Wenda, Xie Mingxia
Liaoning Province, China

Durgesh jabalpur wrote:

Death sentence must be replaced by life imprisonment. Any manual system of justice is not perfect, neither it can be.

We'll exile them to India, where they'll blend in

Professer wrote:

The CCP regime's several decades of ruling has been full of struggle, hatred, killing, chaos caused by war, lies and fear, and even 80 million people's lives have been lost.
"I love my country China and I truly hope she will be really prosperous, strong, democratic and civilized. I hate the ruling of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)- it uses lies and violence to abuse the people. What I hate the most about the CCP is that it totally destroyed the nation's outstanding traditional culture. We can eradicate poverty but how do we save our lost culture. Nowadays in China, people laugh at morality and culture. People lie all the time and hooligans are everywhere. The officials are thieves. Officials collude with the mafia and rich people to exploit the common people. Justice is being trampled and evil is being praised. I am neither a Falun Gong practitioner nor a victim of the Tiananmen Square Massacre, but I am a righteous Chinese. I had joined the Communist Youth League but now have I quit it. My father Li Wenda and my favorite teacher from elementary school Xie Mingxia are both members of the CCP. I am here to help them announce their withdrawals from the CCP. "
Li Ming, Li Wenda, Xie Mingxia
Liaoning Province, China

Notice you left the date off. Wonder why

Those human right fighters should ask why criminals in West are not afraid of killing innocents people.

BTW, why are there so many kids missing in USA each year ?

Didnt they ever ask what message they have sent to those will-be criminals ?

Their message to those @$$^hole is clear and simple : you are allowed to kill one, better not kill two, definitely not three.

Death sentence is vital in China to fight against corruption. Also vital against evils.

Durgesh jabalpur wrote:

Death sentence must be replaced by life imprisonment. Any manual system of justice is not perfect, neither it can be.

I rather a goervernment not using tax payer's money to built jails and house scums of the earth. I rather they use the money to built stronger schools. Even though US only has about 300 million people but it has twice the number of people being imprisoned in China, I think that is just wrong. In US, prison are just crime schools, those people come out and become better criminals.

LOL wrote:

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I rather a goervernment not using tax payer's money to built jails and house scums of the earth. I rather they use the money to built stronger schools. Even though US only has about 300 million people but it has twice the number of people being imprisoned in China, I think that is just wrong. In US, prison are just crime schools, those people come out and become better criminals.

My dear friend! I said, LIFE imprisonment.

Durgesh jabalpur wrote:

Death sentence must be replaced by life imprisonment. Any manual system of justice is not perfect, neither it can be.

Amnesty International has an interesting critique of the death penalty. You can download it here:

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/ACT51/...

Though I'm quite fond of executions myself, I suspect that they distract us from addressing the causes of crimes. After all, prevention is preferable to punishment.

Arindam wrote:

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Amnesty International has an interesting critique of the death penalty. You can download it here:
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/ACT51/...
Though I'm quite fond of executions myself, I suspect that they distract us from addressing the causes of crimes. After all, prevention is preferable to punishment.

Thanks!

Arindam wrote:

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Amnesty International has an interesting critique of the death penalty. You can download it here:
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/ACT51/...
Though I'm quite fond of executions myself, I suspect that they distract us from addressing the causes of crimes. After all, prevention is preferable to punishment.

Death penalty itself IS a vital and effective means of prevention.

george wrote:

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Death penalty itself IS a vital and effective means of prevention.

Not true.

America has the death penalty. Could you please explain why America has more murders per capita than Canada? Canada does not have the death penalty...

Arindam wrote:

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Amnesty International has an interesting critique of the death penalty. You can download it here:

No, I can't. It is censored in China.

:(

Durgesh jabalpur wrote:

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My dear friend! I said, LIFE imprisonment.

right, who pays for the imprisonment?

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:

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Not true.
America has the death penalty. Could you please explain why America has more murders per capita than Canada? Canada does not have the death penalty...

um,American society is a lot more complicated than Canada. For example, in a less populated area, the likely hood of violent crimes are less in a developed society. Hence less murder in Okalahoma compare to California. Canada is the ultimate surburbia.

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:

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No, I can't. It is censored in China.
:(

I hope you're joking.

But in case you aren't, I'll post a few excerpts here:

I.) Death Penalty in comparison to Torture.

"If hanging a woman by her arms until she experiences excruciating pain is rightly condemned as torture, how does one describe hanging her by the neck until she is dead? If administering 100 volts of electricity to the most sensitive parts of a man’s body evokes disgust, what is the appropriate reaction to the administration of 2,000 volts to his body in order to kill him? If a pistol held to the head or a chemical substance injected to cause protracted suffering are clearly instruments of torture, how should they be identified when used to kill by shooting or lethal injection? Does the use of legal process in these cruelties make their inhumanity justifiable?

The physical pain caused by the action of killing a human being cannot be quantified. Nor can the psychological suffering caused by fore-knowledge of death at the hands of the state. Whether a death sentence is carried out six minutes after a summary trial, six weeks after a mass trial or 16 years after lengthy legal proceedings, the person executed is subjected to uniquely cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment and punishment."

II.) Death does not Deter

" Countless men and women have been executed for the stated purpose of preventing crime, especially the crime of murder. Yet Amnesty International has failed to find convincing evidence that the death penalty has any unique capacity to deter others from commuting particular crimes. A survey of research findings on the relation between the death penalty and homicide rates, conducted for the UN in 1988 and updated in 2002, concluded: "...it is not prudent to accept the hypothesis that capital punishment deters murder to a marginally greater extent than does the threat and application of the supposedly lesser punishment of life imprisonment."(4)

Undeniably the death penalty, by permanently "incapacitating" a prisoner, prevents that person from repeating the crime. But there is no way to be sure that the prisoner would indeed have repeated the crime if allowed to live, nor is there any need to violate the prisoner’s right to life for the purpose of incapacitation: dangerous offenders can be kept safely away from the public without resorting to execution, as shown by the experience of many abolitionist countries.

Nor is there evidence that the threat of the death penalty will prevent politically motivated crimes or acts of terror. If anything, the possibility of political martyrdom through execution may encourage people to commit such crimes."

III.) The Death Penalty and the Lust for Vengeance

"When the arguments of deterrence and incapacitation fall away, one is left with a more deep-seated justification for the death penalty: that of just retribution for the particular crime committed. According to this argument, certain people deserve to be killed as repayment for the evil done: there are crimes so offensive that killing the offender is the only just response.

It is an emotionally powerful argument. It is also one which, if valid, would invalidate the basis for human rights. If a person who commits a terrible act can "deserve" the cruelty of death, why cannot others, for similar reasons, "deserve" to be tortured or imprisoned without trial or simply shot on sight? Central to fundamental human rights is that they are inalienable. They may not be taken away even if a person has committed the most atrocious of crimes. Human rights apply to the worst of us as well as to the best of us, which is why they protect all of us."

LOL wrote:

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um,American society is a lot more complicated than Canada. For example, in a less populated area, the likely hood of violent crimes are less in a developed society. Hence less murder in Okalahoma compare to California. Canada is the ultimate surburbia.

Have you actually even been to Canada? You seem to have no idea what you are talking about.

Read this interesting facts about high crime rate in the US.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/news/2008/02/29/1...