Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

I don'r see ant reaso to our eyes on this guy, it's normal for our troops to try and contact Al Qaeda.

if the shoe fits!

"Militia groups" are DOMESTIC, numbnuts.
I know it's difficult, but try to keep up.
And just what roll did the militia play in forming this country. You're a moron and a traitor to your historied ancestors

Robert Newell wrote:

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You make no sense.

And you clearly haven't got the slightest clue as to the differences between DOMESTIC terrorism and INTERNATIONAL terrorism.

A sincere "Makka lakka jihad jihad!" to you, too, Gary.

Barry wrote:

"Militia groups" are DOMESTIC, numbnuts.
I know it's difficult, but try to keep up.
And just what roll did the militia play in forming this country. You're a moron and a traitor to your historied ancestors

... what role did the militia play in forming this country ...?

Come on ... you can't SERIOUSLY be *****THAT***** F*CKING STUPID.

Here ... go find someone with more brains than you (a potted plant will probably suffice) and have them read this to you:

http://www.historyisfun.org/militia-in-the-Re...

Smell the coffee wrote:

This is why we need stricter gun control. In our new world there is no need for fire arms. If people kill people then we should take away the most popular tools of destruction.

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes ... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." Cesare

Smell the coffee wrote:

This is why we need stricter gun control. In our new world there is no need for fire arms. If people kill people then we should take away the most popular tools of destruction.

How will " We the Prople " keep the government in line.

" And what country can preserve its liberties, if the rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms". Thomas Jefferson

Read the last paragraph of the FBI report, they say the investigation is ongoing, implying throughout the whole article that his motive was unknown AT THIS POINT. Then read this News article from ABC. He was in touch with the top al Queida recruiter in Yemen,(his old Inmam in VA).

Communications between US Military Officers and al Queida are not benign in nature.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-recrui...

GunnySteve wrote:

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It's right there in the OFFICIAL FBI PRESS RELEASE, you pathetic dunce!
THE FBI CLEARED HIM OF TERRORIST CONNECTIONS, you foot-stamping neo-con imbecile.
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel09/fortho...
"At this point, there is no information to indicate Major Nidal Malik Hasan had any co-conspirators or was part of a broader terrorist plot."
They traced all his e-mails and cleared them, as well.
But that doesn't fit in with you mission-accomplished types and your pathological masturbatory need for anything and everything "terrorist" to be linked to Barack Obama.
It's LAUGHABLE how in-the-face-of-facts you idiots are.
Take your hands off your ears, stop singing la-la-la-la and read the facts. Then go find a mirror and see who the real putz is.

I am blind and can't spell, deaf in one ear, can't hear out of the other.

How will " We the People " keep the government in line?.

I think it's called the second amendment

By: Ronald Kessler Article Font Size

Imams preach jihad and extremism in 10 percent of the 2,000 mosques in the United States, the FBI estimates.

That sums up the problem facing us as we ponder the meaning of Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan’s slayings of 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas. Given his association with a pro-al-Qaida imam in northern Virginia and his preoccupation with radical Islamic Web sites, it’s clear that the radical element of Islam influenced Hasan.

On the other hand, those who condemn Muslims in general because of the actions of Hasan and others like him are engaging in prejudice that has no place in America. Indeed, such stereotyping sets back the war on terror, because we need moderate Muslims on our side.

The problem is not the Quran, which is no more incendiary than some passages in the Bible.(Deuteronomy, for example, prescribes stoning to death for those who “served other gods and worshipped them.”) The problem is the radical element that uses the Quran as an excuse to engage in terrorism and the failure of many moderate Muslims to condemn the extremists.

About a quarter of the Muslims in America ages 18 through 29 believe that suicide bombings can be justified, according to a Pew Research Center poll. Generating those attitudes are imams who preach jihad and hatred in American mosques and postings on the Internet, according to FBI counterterrorism officials interviewed for my book “The Terrorist Watch: Inside the Desperate Race to Stop the Next Attack.”

Saying he is being conservative, an FBI counterterrorism official told me in interviews for the book that 1 in 10 imams preach jihad. Before 9/11, the number of mosques where imams preached jihad was even greater than today.

“Those who actively support extremist causes, say America is evil and deserves what it gets, and celebrate the death of soldiers, know they may come to our attention,” an FBI official says.“So they don’t do it as openly now.”

Before 9/11, he says,“There was much more of that because all of it was considered by Justice Department guidelines to be purely protected speech. We do not have incitement laws in America, but once an imam facilitates someone else taking action, he has crossed the line into material support and becomes our business.”

An example was Ali al-Timimi, a spiritual leader at a mosque in Northern Virginia who preached jihad and provided contact information for those who went to Afghanistan for training in terrorist camps. Al-Timimi is serving a life prison term.

The FBI has outreach programs to try to develop sources in the Muslim community and solicit tips, but FBI agents have found little receptivity. They find that Muslims often are in denial about the fact that the terrorists who threaten the U.S. are Muslims.

“I had this discussion with the director of a very prominent Muslim organization here in D.C.,” a frustrated counterterrorism agent says.“And he said,‘Why are you guys always looking at the Muslim community?’”

The agent began laughing.

“Okay, you know what I’ll do?” the agent said.“I’ll start an Irish squad, or how about a Japanese squad? You want me to waste my time and your taxpayers' dollars going to look at the Irish? They’re not killing Americans. Right now, I’m going to put my money and my people in a place where the threat is.”

Continued;

The agent tells them to take a look at the cells that the FBI has rolled up in the United States.

“I can name the home-grown cells, all of whom are Muslim, all of whom were seeking to murder Americans,” the agent says.“It’s not the Irish, it’s not the French, it’s not the Catholics, it’s not the Protestants, it’s the Muslims.”

In response, Muslim groups have told him he is rough around the edges.

“I’m not rough around the edges,” he tells them.“You’re just not used to straight talk.”

They respond by getting angry at him.

Although Muslims occasionally condemn al-Qaida,“Rarely do we have them coming to us and saying,‘There are three guys in the community that we’re very concerned about,’” one agent says.“They want to fix it inside the community. They’re a closed group, a very, very closed group. It’s part of their culture that they want to settle the problem within their own communities. They’ve actually said that to us, which I then go crazy over.”

On the one hand,“They don’t want anyone to know they have extremists in their community,” the agent says.“Well, beautiful. Except do you read the newspapers? Everyone already knows it. That horse has left the barn. So there’s a lot of talk about engagement, but realistically, we’ve got a long, long way to go.”

At one meeting, a Muslim group suggested having a photo taken of its members with FBI Director Robert Mueller to show their community isn’t a bunch of terrorists and that they are partners in the war on terror.

An agent replied,“Let me make a suggestion: When you bring to my attention real extremists who are here to plan and do something, who are here supporting terrorism, and I work that based on your information, then I promise you, I will have the director stand up on the stage with you.”

To the agent’s amazement, the answer was:“That could never happen. We would lose our constituency. We could never admit to bringing someone to the FBI.”

“Well, we’ve just defined the problem, haven’t we?” the agent told them.

To be sure, some individual Muslims have brought leads to the FBI. That led to FBI cases in Lackawanna, N.Y.; Lodi, Calif.; and Atlanta. But the FBI has found that imams and other community leaders are reluctant to do that.

If the news media filmed imams preaching hated of America in mosques that are public, the number of imams publicly espousing jihad would dwindle to close to zero. Until that happens, Americans must learn to distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys.

“In recent years, U.S. soldiers have fought a common enemy on behalf of and often alongside Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo, Kuwait, Somalia, and elsewhere,” the Wall Street Journal pointed out in an editorial.“The U.S. is fighting a sworn enemy today, just as in World War II American Germans, Italians and Japanese fought sworn U.S. enemies of the same race and religion. Many American Muslims will do the same if we stay focused on the real enemy, and show we have the will to do what’s necessary to find them and stop them.”

WTF is wrong with the Pentagon if our intelligence goes nowhere?

WTF is the point of an intelligence if it doesn't act on that intelligence?

They knew about 9/11 weeks before it happened too.

Freedom Lover of IL wrote:

<quoted text> How will " We the Prople " keep the government in line.
" And what country can preserve its liberties, if the rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms". Thomas Jefferson

More killing will get the USA nowhere fast. It's the Freedom of Speech that will keep politicians in line. If you pull a gun at a Senator, I guarantee that you will have many many many more put on you...

Peaceful revolution is the only way to make a real difference on society... More conflict, is only more conflict and eventually will create more terrorist, more mass murders, and more innocent lives will be lost.

GunnySteve wrote:

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It's right there in the OFFICIAL FBI PRESS RELEASE, you pathetic dunce!
THE FBI CLEARED HIM OF TERRORIST CONNECTIONS, you foot-stamping neo-con imbecile.
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel09/fortho...
"At this point, there is no information to indicate Major Nidal Malik Hasan had any co-conspirators or was part of a broader terrorist plot."
They traced all his e-mails and cleared them, as well.
But that doesn't fit in with you mission-accomplished types and your pathological masturbatory need for anything and everything "terrorist" to be linked to Barack Obama.
It's LAUGHABLE how in-the-face-of-facts you idiots are.
Take your hands off your ears, stop singing la-la-la-la and read the facts. Then go find a mirror and see who the real putz is.

If you really think the FBI CIS are going to really come out and tell you the truth. You are stuck on stupid.
They want to cool down the entire situation to find out more information.
Obama belong to a Radical Hate church in Chicago for years.He visited Saudi Arabia many times on a regular bases
Enough said.

Dos wrote:

Lives lost for political correctness, diversity, inclusion.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shoot...
Are all muslims bad...no, but this government can NOT afford to worry about offending any person or group or religion for fear of Obama's governmental lawyers seeking to undetermine the full protection of american citizens.
It's the lives of Americans that are at risk.
Attorney General Eric Holder..."a nation of cowards"
Holder needs to tell that to the parents and relatives of those dead soldiers and civilians at Ft. Hood.
Pelosi has demeaned the CIA, Obama has demeaned the CIA through AG Holder.
Time to vote out those who fail to protect our citizens and our soldiers.
Who cares if fingerprints and eye scans are demanded for those who travel to the USA....are borders are NOT protected...people DON'T need a passport to enter this country.
Remember a civil case was filed and WON against a rancher who rounded up and was holding illegals on his OWN property while waiting for police to come and get them.
Vote in 2010 and 2012...reclaim your government and start to reclaim your country.
Thank Bush and Cheney for the Patriot Act that kept YOU and your friends and relatives SAFE!!!!
Pelosi, Obama and the democrats ranted against the Patriot Act, but still "use" it. What a bunch of liars.
Obama=no trust

Actually their are those in corrupt Politics etc that corrupt hate Yisrael and christians tally how many have been murdered worldwide in the past couple decades 20 millon. Especially many murdered pratically defensless in Africa.

So to hide their corrupt hate they pass a law and say be it you preach from romans etc ye hate. However they cannot hide behind their lies no more than are the cries of murdered blood against them or the come quicky saying and the how long song as written thru and thru true.

Also yerimiah and Isiyah, we do not wish to see these long wicked days , "let the double day come " "render the skies O most high" etc etc against these empires corrupt as the Days of Noah and lot also written thru and thru true.

We see they cannot arrest diverse weather changes , earthqaukes, or solar sun diversities or the earths dead stirred and colds.

YAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA H

Also pentagons report 2010 by that year the "earths weather shall be disastourous to politics" as ye know it.

Political pie in the sky shall be seen as the lie it is, and political corruptness is already getting ruptured in these times of indigantions and tribulations intensifying like spring fruits to the summer wind climax daniel ch 2 as written thru and thru true.

ISIYAH shut yer doors meaning yer heart " Earth stirrs its deads agains the wicked heads and thier empires"

Gospels guard the affections of yer heart

Revelations ch 18 come out to not partake of plauges of the likes has never been seen as written of mystery babel ( banking babel )
ye every study what muslims jihads they support not just abortion clinics also why banks are the only commercial business mentioned in ISIYAH ch 24 , about the earthwake from the core of the earth to to and for , also the magnetic poles are already moving to go upside down.

Better to live and die truly free, than to labor in vain for pain to the soul.

YAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AH

This is all fabricated most of the whatever on this planet to stir up various rage to stirr up people out of their shut doors of thier heart.Like the rest of the vain attempts, because its not going to stop the tribulations growing like spring time fruits anyway, one of those being diverse and or dangerous weather woes, as written thru and thru true,

Rome and athens to alexanders empire remember when people even of those nations came out of those empires and or shut their hearts doors by conscience, study history and the book of daniel on these facts and or truths.

The wicked empires dread people not participating in thier greedy banking and or other false religon expansions, as commanded not to participate especially willfully and knowingly.

These sore loser empires on this planet will lie till the planet flips upside down and titanics all thier empires why because they are liars, thats why and they hate the truth so much be it they knew the planet was about to to and fro them in a few days ye think they would tell ye nay they will despitefully use you till ye die and ye are nothing more than a number to them to make money and or expand one of thier various false religons,

Most of what ye hear and see in the media is willfully or ignorant media to distract you from what is imminent. Total extinction of these empires as the days of NOah and lot is imminent going to immenancy not farther away all the closer everyday and hour could be the final earth core earthqauke climax.The its to and fro time, summer wind finally ,that finishes off these empires,

Be it a comet/asteriod was slapped fast as this planet ye think they would tell ye it was coming publicly . Doubt it, that wouldnt be good for their banking money based empires that becoming rooted theirin is one of their major undoings, it makes a empire weak as all the layoff people are now finding out and humpty dumpty banks.

Ye are no greater than yer teacher, and or foundations. These empires have no foundations except banks actually, and that is a big to see they bank sank fail. Also to mention the curses for supporting jihad muslims or doing business with them and or the likes of abortion clinis etc ,

And ye thought mafia people supporting hitman finacially was bad , why because thats the bad ye see in movies or some novels, and not what banks actually support financially even with credit and for expansions even jihad muslims, abortion clinics etc worldwide.

Every seen the mans tombstone from the 1800s that read I fought the banks and won, he set them back decades and for good reason for a empire itself as well, but they forgot that man as we can see and others that fought a empire becoming rooted in banks and theirby their only actual foundation to fail, look at most of the fail today worldwide on the foundations of banks , study it think about it, not just what ye see in a dozen movies or book novels that dont show what banks actually support
everyday to fail. Or call it finacing foundations to fail and the fail is already started fast.



YAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH HAHAHHAAH

Where were the armed military police ? Thank God there was a civilian policewoman who had a gun who was able to shoot this psycho as I'm afraid that there would have been many more than just 13 individuals who would have been murdered !

Where the hell is our National Security???? They knew what this idiot was doing and did not do a damn thing. We need to stop all immigration into this country and get send all the Muslims back to their homeland. This country is just gone over the top with the ACLU tryin to get rid of a cross in the middle of the desert to way to the government wanting to run our lives. This crap has got to stop. I would love to see a second american revolution.

Smell the coffee wrote:

When a child plays with his fathers gun a shoots himself or someone else do you all claim victory that he exercised his right to bear arms?
Think about it.
We won't have to worry about other countries invading us if we start treating them with respect!
DUH!

Which countries do we not respect? Please name one.

Fed up wrote:

Where the hell is our National Security???? They knew what this idiot was doing and did not do a damn thing. We need to stop all immigration into this country and get send all the Muslims back to their homeland. This country is just gone over the top with the ACLU tryin to get rid of a cross in the middle of the desert to way to the government wanting to run our lives. This crap has got to stop. I would love to see a second american revolution.

Some heads need to roll in DOD. We cannot tolerate such incompetence. This guy was giving off clear terrorist signals and what does he get? A promotion and a transfer.