Bill lets Mich. towns decide on restaurant smoking

u cannot own me wrote:

<quoted text> what a total fraud, if they were honest about protecting employees they would ban all business from being open and the public inflicting the employees with germs, communicable diseases, colds flu's etc.
Protecting employees is a big fraud and the employees are being used for the anti smoking agenda

They take the necessary level of precaution...you just don't worry about it!

;o)

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>They take the necessary level of precaution...you just don't worry about it!
;o)

don't you rail on Obama? your a (R) right?

Lone Goat wrote:

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don't you rail on Obama? your a (R) right?

Cannot stand Obama...think biden is like Gerald Ford, H Clinton is nothing more than scary, Nancy Pelosi Harry Reed and Barney Frank are some of the worst this country has ever seen.

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Cannot stand Obama...think biden is like Gerald Ford, H Clinton is nothing more than scary, Nancy Pelosi Harry Reed and Barney Frank are some of the worst this country has ever seen.

Now there is something we do agree on.!

PreachingToTheGarbage wrote:

<quoted text>Now there is something we do agree on.!

See, we can find common ground! I even think you and others smoking is perfectly fine...where though, is where we disagree!

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>See, we can find common ground! I even think you and others smoking is perfectly fine...where though, is where we disagree!

Thats where tolerence of one in other comes in, we must tolerate one in other if we expect to get along as a society.

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>See, we can find common ground! I even think you and others smoking is perfectly fine...where though, is where we disagree!

What form of government is most likely to declare private property "public" anything...all while feeling the need to "level the playing field"?

History knows your kind.

Lone Goat wrote:

<quoted text>
don't you rail on Obama? your a (R) right?

There is no fool like a blind fool....

;-)

PreachingToTheGarbage wrote:

<quoted text>Thats where tolerence of one in other comes in, we must tolerate one in other if we expect to get along as a society.

We will not tolerate intolerance.

*snicker*

History know the results.

BleuJei wrote:

Wow....People would rather engage in "one upmanship" than to seek mutual ground to walk on together.
We are truly a very self-centered and vindictive society.
TTFN

Attn: BJ, speaking for & about yourself ?

Freedom wrote:

<quoted text>
We will not tolerate intolerance.
*snicker*
History know the results.

The only "snickers" around this forum are the snickers people make about your stupid rants "Free-dum."

just candid wrote:

<quoted text> The only "snickers" around this forum are the snickers people make about your stupid rants "Free-dum."

Coming from the one who labels me a degenerate...that really hurts.

What kind of person mocks those they seek to oppress?

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Cannot stand Obama...think biden is like Gerald Ford, H Clinton is nothing more than scary, Nancy Pelosi Harry Reed and Barney Frank are some of the worst this country has ever seen.

Ah, I begin to sense you may actually have thought well of the guy who looked at the huge surplus in the economy at the end of Clinton's tenure, thought "CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION!!", and said, "HEY EVERYBODY, VOTE ME IN AND I'LL GIVE YOU SOME OF THAT!"

He still had to have his brother disenfranchise every black voter in his state who shared more than one name/initial with a convicted felon and use police to obstruct the efforts of blacks to get to the polls. Oh, yeah, then he ended up being appointed by a court instead of elected. But, hey he was YOURS!

So, how did he leave us for funding?

TruthBeTold wrote:

<quoted text>Cannot stand Obama...think biden is like Gerald Ford, H Clinton is nothing more than scary, Nancy Pelosi Harry Reed and Barney Frank are some of the worst this country has ever seen.

but yet you say someone shouldn't smoke in a public bar or restaurant??? and you want government to make a law blocking a basic land right???

yes no?

PreachingToTheGarbage wrote:

<quoted text>Thats where tolerence of one in other comes in, we must tolerate one in other if we expect to get along as a society.

Thanks...I agree!

Freedom wrote:

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What form of government is most likely to declare private property "public" anything...all while feeling the need to "level the playing field"?
History knows your kind.

All current forms!
I don't get your question?

Lone Goat wrote:

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but yet you say someone shouldn't smoke in a public bar or restaurant??? and you want government to make a law blocking a basic land right???
yes no?

Just because I am registered (R) does not mean I cannot think independently.
I am more inclined to believed (based on statistical data) that smokers are more likely to be democrat rather than republican.

With that, I would say that being a non smoker who does not care for smoke wafting in my face when eating, I find it difficult to recognize or accept smoking as a individual right, when exercising that right affects so many others in a negative way.

I agree that smokers are free to smoke...no issues there! My issue is smokers believe there right is to get to smoke whenever and wherever they please, and when someone who is bothered by that smoke speaks up, they are simply faced with an angry "if you dont like it...go somewhere else" type of response.

Ever stop to think about how lopsided the smoking to non-smoking establishments go...in fact ever count on your right hand how many places are non smoking within 20 miles of your home? A whole group of people cannot be alienated in a civilized society just to satisfy the needs of an extreme minority of people.

One ciggie affects an entire room for a long time, where as a smoker going outside for a few minutes, hurts no one and is effortless!