Since: May 08
Miami Fl.
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bmz wrote: <quoted text>
Native,
Just look at your own post. You, a Christian, already sound like a barbaric animal, coming from the biblical gutters. lol!
Christians have done their murderous job on humanity for over a thousand years and only have civilised recently.
The Jews are a living testimony of that. If Christianity had not performed that vulgarity, there would have possibly 300 million Jews in the world today.
Christianity has indeed a deplorable, filthy and a horrible record. It took pride in being the only religion that burnt people alive and boiled them in oil in the name of their Lord Jesus.
LMAO! Again , poor attempt at trying to ge Christians to defend themselves vice refuting the evidence before you. Muslims are at war with the entire non-muslim (infidel) world. You want to hide it, redirect it, shift responsibility for it; re-frame the debate ; anything to keep people from discussing Islam's war with all nations , governments and faiths; anything but OWN it. Well I have a revelation for ya bro, you already OWN it. Everyone see's it. Stop hiding and deal with your cult before we do.
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Reality
Pittsfield, MA
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Native wrote: Msdefend
You have the WRONG concept of FORGIVENESS. Just because someone forgives someone does NOT mean they should NOT have to pay for their crimes. THEY SHOULD HAVE TO because they were wrong in committing them but as CHRISTIANS we are required to FORGIVE whether they ask for it or not. The Bible says if you DO NOT forgive God will NOT forgive you. So just because someone forgives does NOT mean they get off scott free from their crime. A murderer needs to be behind bars and God says if you take a life your life should be taken.
<quoted text> ========== "God says if you take a life your life should be taken." ========== Where does he say that?
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“Peace, Justice, Honesty, Adab”
Since: Mar 09
London, UK
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I cannot condone killing. This is a tragedy for all concerned. But idiots that rush to judgement are idiots. Omni wrote: <quoted text>
He was in the military. It doesn't matter if he's a doctor or a rifle cleaner; when you're ordered to do something, you do it. No room for conscience in the US military? I don't think your point is as black and white as you would like to make us think. Omni wrote: <quoted text>
This insane piece of trash was educated by the American military, is a doctor due to the FREE training he had in the military. No student loans for this guy, America picked up the tab. Whatever. He signed up to serve, not have his family harassed. I don't believe anyone has done him any favours. Omni wrote: <quoted text>
This was not a case of 'snapped'. This was planned. He turned his back on the country that gave him opportunity. And you know this how?? Bullshit. Omni wrote: <quoted text>
How the hell can any American trust a Muslim after this? You assume his religion has something to do with this. More bullshit. Omni wrote: <quoted text>
Actually, how the hell can anyone trust them. Trust who? Omni wrote: <quoted text>
They will smile at you, but don't turn your back on them. Who are you on about? Are you on about the Muslims from the US military who gave their lives in service and are buried with their colleagues in Arlington? You would really destroy their sacrifice through the actions of one individual? It smacks of fear and desperation and cowardice - on your part.
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maliki osman
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who is destroying their sacrifices and how? they are buried and they will ceremoniously sent off as americans. they did not die in the name of islam if you ask me. but this muslim psychiatrist wanted to die in the name of allah, for his religion islam.
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Since: May 08
Miami Fl.
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maliki osman wrote: who is destroying their sacrifices and how? they are buried and they will ceremoniously sent off as americans. they did not die in the name of islam if you ask me. but this muslim psychiatrist wanted to die in the name of allah, for his religion islam. Exactly! And thats the point Abi Najda is in denial over. He must think that dressing in Islamic garb, saying formal goodbyes, and shouting Allah Akbar while murdering 13 unarmed soldiers has NOTHING to do with Islam ! He's full of crap ! It has everything to do with Islam.
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rattlecattle
Debary, FL
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How is the WAR going?
We are losing...on so many levels
But americans are stupid they will continue to spin their wheels in the sand and making a fool of themself
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Native
Lewistown, PA
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Reality Genesis 1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons and told them,“Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth. 2 All the animals of the earth, all the birds of the sky, all the small animals that scurry along the ground, and all the fish in the sea will look on you with fear and terror. I have placed them in your power. 3 I have given them to you for food, just as I have given you grain and vegetables. 4 But you must never eat any meat that still has the lifeblood in it. 5 “And I will require the blood of anyone who takes another person’s life. If a wild animal kills a person, it must die. And anyone who murders a fellow human must die. 6 If anyone takes a human life, that person’s life will also be taken by human hands. For God made human beings[a] in his own image. 7 Now be fruitful and multiply, and repopulate the earth.” Reality wrote: <quoted text>
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"God says if you take a life your life should be taken."
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Where does he say that?
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Reality
Pittsfield, MA
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Native wrote: Reality
Genesis
1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons and told them,“Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth. 2 All the animals of the earth, all the birds of the sky, all the small animals that scurry along the ground, and all the fish in the sea will look on you with fear and terror. I have placed them in your power. 3 I have given them to you for food, just as I have given you grain and vegetables. 4 But you must never eat any meat that still has the lifeblood in it.
5 “And I will require the blood of anyone who takes another person’s life. If a wild animal kills a person, it must die. And anyone who murders a fellow human must die. 6 If anyone takes a human life, that person’s life will also be taken by human hands. For God made human beings[a] in his own image. 7 Now be fruitful and multiply, and repopulate the earth.”
<quoted text> You once stated, you are New Testament material and the Jews were Old Testament. Now you are using Jewish books to condone killing and that goes contrary to the teachings of Christ.For he said: to "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO WOULD HARM YOU." Sort of proves you are a hypocrite as I have stated, of you of being, many times before. All the while you condone people killing children and innocent adults and that's the same as if you pulled the tigger yourself........hypocrite
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Native
Lewistown, PA
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REALITY
I NEVER SAID I DID NOT BELIEVE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. I said I do NOT follow the laws of the OLD testament which were JEWISH LAWS. I believe the OLD TESTAMENT is from God and always have.
REALITY
you asked for the verse where God says about allowing CAPITAL PUNISHMENT if the person kills another human being.
JESUS never said that is not to be HE SAID if an enemy hits you you are to allow him to hit you back. DOES not say if someone kills you then they should NOT be punished
I am far from being a hypocrite unlike you who lies all the time on here about being a MUSLIM you are a muslim and you and I both know you are.
I DO NOT CONDONE PEOPLE KILLING ANY CHILD YOU FILTHY LIAR.
I DO NOT CONDONE ADULTS BEING KILLED I BELIEVE ALL KILLING IS WRONG yet if you expect us to sit back and allow muslims to come and kill us YOU HAVE ANOTHER THING COMING. WE WILL DEFEND OURSELVES just as you would HYPOCRITE.
STOP asking me where verses are HYPOCRITE if you do NOT want the truth. DIE AND FIND OUT YOURSELF how you been lied to by ISLAM.
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Reality
Pittsfield, MA
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Mine Eyes Have Seen wrote: <quoted text>
Exactly! And thats the point Abi Najda is in denial over. He must think that dressing in Islamic garb, saying formal goodbyes, and shouting Allah Akbar while murdering 13 unarmed soldiers has NOTHING to do with Islam ! He's full of crap ! It has everything to do with Islam. Sort of like these guy eh.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVey ========== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unabomber ========== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_att... ========== http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/offenses/violen... ========== http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_repor... ========== http://www.scribd.com/doc/21670/Crime-Statist... ========== http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_per... ========== ========== Clean up your own back yard first.
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Since: May 08
Miami Fl.
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Fpo, AP
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Reality wrote: <quoted text>
You once stated, you are New Testament material and the Jews were Old Testament. Now you are using Jewish books to condone killing and that goes contrary to the teachings of Christ.For he said: to "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO WOULD HARM YOU."
Sort of proves you are a hypocrite as I have stated, of you of being, many times before. All the while you condone people killing children and innocent adults and that's the same as if you pulled the tigger yourself........hypocrite I dont want to engage in defending Christianity , however, I must sadd a brief comment. Being a Christian is not a suicide pact for those bent on harm. The Bible is rife with strong men.
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Reality
Pittsfield, MA
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Native wrote: REALITY
I NEVER SAID I DID NOT BELIEVE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. I said I do NOT follow the laws of the OLD testament which were JEWISH LAWS. I believe the OLD TESTAMENT is from God and always have.
REALITY
you asked for the verse where God says about allowing CAPITAL PUNISHMENT if the person kills another human being.
JESUS never said that is not to be HE SAID if an enemy hits you you are to allow him to hit you back. DOES not say if someone kills you then they should NOT be punished
I am far from being a hypocrite unlike you who lies all the time on here about being a MUSLIM you are a muslim and you and I both know you are.
I DO NOT CONDONE PEOPLE KILLING ANY CHILD YOU FILTHY LIAR.
I DO NOT CONDONE ADULTS BEING KILLED I BELIEVE ALL KILLING IS WRONG yet if you expect us to sit back and allow muslims to come and kill us YOU HAVE ANOTHER THING COMING. WE WILL DEFEND OURSELVES just as you would HYPOCRITE.
STOP asking me where verses are HYPOCRITE if you do NOT want the truth. DIE AND FIND OUT YOURSELF how you been lied to by ISLAM. So that proves it. You just hung yourself. Christ said to be a pacifist and to love your enemies and that the laws, thou shalt not kill,still stand, that he didn't come to abolish the law but to fullfill it. but you say it is alright to kill in self-defense...HYPOCRITE...Ven geance is mine Saith the Lord,I will repay,'{not you Native}'. Go read for another 35 years, cause' it shows only 35 milli seconds of quotations, came out of the last 35 years. ========== You've been brainwashed by this guy and his colleagues... You might know him as Cain the Preacer http://www.joshwolk.com/blogs/media/users/jos... http://msunderestimated.com/PhelpsKane.jpg
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Wheres the peace
Bossier City, LA
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The Fort Hood terrorists motive was the same as all islamic terrorists motive islam wants global domination,Its blood thirst is never quenched though even if it got global control its slaughters would only grow! http://markhumphrys.com/islam.killings.html
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Az Zaqqum
Phoenix, AZ
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Reality wrote: <quoted text> So that proves it. You just hung yourself. Christ said to be a pacifist and to love your enemies and that the laws, thou shalt not kill,still stand, that he didn't come to abolish the law but to fullfill it. but you say it is alright to kill in self-defense...HYPOCRITE...Ven geance is mine Saith the Lord,I will repay,'{not you Native}'. Go read for another 35 years, cause' it shows only 35 milli seconds of quotations, came out of the last 35 years. ========== You've been brainwashed by this guy and his colleagues... You might know him as Cain the Preacer http://www.joshwolk.com/blogs/media/users/jos... http://msunderestimated.com/PhelpsKane.jpg Well Reality, you're bad mouthing the People book. Allah sent messengers to write this People book, so instead of hollering at Native, holler at allah. Nothing happens without HIS will, right? The quran speaks of the People of the Book, the gospels and Jewish law. The quran is not new, it's a continuation of the previous 2 books...although it also says 124 messenger/prophets/books are also valid, but that's for another debate. Bottom line, the quran only corrects a few issues in the people book, so cracking on Native means you're cracking on the muslim allah, too. You say you believe in one god, yes? Which one?
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Az Zaqqum
Phoenix, AZ
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who="Abu Najda"I cannot condone killing. This is a tragedy for all concerned. But idiots that rush to judgement are idiots.
No room for conscience in the US military? I don't think your point is as black and white as you would like to make us think.
Whatever. He signed up to serve, not have his family harassed. I don't believe anyone has done him any favours.
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Just one question Abu,
Why do you think he hollered out...allaua akbar??
He didn't use the english word god, he used the arabic, quranic word for god...yet you don't see a connection? Really?
Even if, as you say his family was harrassed...not true btw unless they were harassed by muslims at their mosque....but, why bring religion into it? He had to know people would live to hear him say allua akbar.
If he would have hollered out...I hate this war, or...I hate myself...or, life sucks...islam would probably have not even be brought up. But no. He wanted everyone to know he was killing for allah.
Is there any reason in particular that only muslims holler out god is great before they kill people??
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Test all docs
Naugatuck, CT
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Test all docs for drugs, even if they have no history.
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Since: Mar 08
Singapore, Singapore
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Native wrote: BMZ
I challenge you BRING THE ARTICLES where CHRISTIANS burnt people alive and boiled them in hot oil. YOUR A LIAR...
No Christian has EVER done that to another human. ITS YOU MUSLIMS that have done those kind of SICK BARBARIC acts.
Christians never did anything toward JEWS. Hitler was a PSYCHO MANIAC NOT A CHRISTIAN and you can say all day he was catholic yet MANY Christians do not recognize the catholic church as a BORN AGAIN believer because most catholics do idol worship and bow to statues of Mary which God tells us NOT to do.
Go and learn what a TRUE BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN IS then come back and have a real discussion with me. YOU bmz have only showed your IGNORANCE.
<quoted text> You do not have to challenge me, Native. I have made a very serious accusation, so go and search on Google and find plenty of articles and information on the Darkest and Dirty History of Christianity. Go, read and figure. I have not mentioned any thing about Hitler or the RCC or other jokers. It is the barbaric Christianity that I talked about. When Thomas Jefefrson wrote this: "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites." "The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ." "Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity.", nobody asked him to provide proof. People, who were well read, knew. So, you have to go and read. When Mark Twain said, "During many ages there were witches. The Bible said so. The Bible commanded that they should not be allowed to live. Therefore the Church, after doing its duty in but a lazy and indolent way for 800 years, gathered up its halters, thumbscrews, and firebrands, and set about its holy work in earnest. She worked hard at it night and day during nine centuries and imprisoned, tortured, hanged, and burned whole hordes and armies of witches, and washed the Christian world clean with their foul blood. Then it was discovered that there was no such thing as witches, and never had been. One does not know whether to laugh or to cry.", nobody asked him to prove. As I see, you have only read the Bible for 35 years. You must read and know that Christianity carries a very bad and dirty past. If I were to write all the atrocities and heinous crimes committed by Christianity and its church engines, the entire broadband would not be enough. Cheers BMZ
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Az Zaqqum
Phoenix, AZ
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bmz wrote: <quoted text>
You do not have to challenge me, Native.
I have made a very serious accusation, so go and search on Google and find plenty of articles and information on the Darkest and Dirty History of Christianity.
Go, read and figure.
I have not mentioned any thing about Hitler or the RCC or other jokers.
It is the barbaric Christianity that I talked about.
When Thomas Jefefrson wrote this:
"There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites."
"The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ."
"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity.", nobody asked him to provide proof. People, who were well read, knew. So, you have to go and read.
When Mark Twain said, "During many ages there were witches. The Bible said so. The Bible commanded that they should not be allowed to live. Therefore the Church, after doing its duty in but a lazy and indolent way for 800 years, gathered up its halters, thumbscrews, and firebrands, and set about its holy work in earnest. She worked hard at it night and day during nine centuries and imprisoned, tortured, hanged, and burned whole hordes and armies of witches, and washed the Christian world clean with their foul blood. Then it was discovered that there was no such thing as witches, and never had been. One does not know whether to laugh or to cry.", nobody asked him to prove.
As I see, you have only read the Bible for 35 years. You must read and know that Christianity carries a very bad and dirty past.
If I were to write all the atrocities and heinous crimes committed by Christianity and its church engines, the entire broadband would not be enough.
Cheers
BMZ That was then, this is NOW! Muslims now have the distinction of creating a very bad and nasty PRESENT! But it's all good right, because it's their turn...? nuts This guys motive was to kill non muslims. Why didn't he go to his mosque and shoot them up??
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george whyte
UK
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It's getting harder by the minute to say he just "snapped": Fort Hood jihadist linked to 9/11 jihadists
But never fear, the mainstream media will keep looking for a motive!
Major Nidal Malik Hasan worshipped at a mosque led by a radical imam said to be a "spiritual adviser" to three of the hijackers who attacked America on Sept 11, 2001.
Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.
The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.
Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday's horrific shooting spree.
As investigators look at Hasan's motives and mindset, his attendance at the mosque could be an important piece of the jigsaw. Al-Awlaki moved to Dar al-Hijrah as imam in January, 2001, from the west coast, and three months later the September 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour began attending his services. A third hijacker attended his services in California.
Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists.
Charles Allen, a former under-secretary for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, has described al-Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen, as an "al-Qaeda supporter, and former spiritual leader to three of the September 11 hijackers... who targets US Muslims with radical online lectures encouraging terrorist attacks from his new home in Yemen"....
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Native
Lewistown, PA
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BMZ AGAIN your a LIAR I have spent 2 hours looking for the information and YOU LIED the only thing that comes up under throwing acid on people is MUSLIMS doing it. Ya well when you die you will see how much of a really idiot you were because then it will be revealed how islam LIED to you. You have NO CLUE what CHRISTIANITY is and your lies always come to fore front. YOUR A LIAR bmz bmz wrote: <quoted text>
You do not have to challenge me, Native.
I have made a very serious accusation, so go and search on Google and find plenty of articles and information on the Darkest and Dirty History of Christianity.
Go, read and figure.
I have not mentioned any thing about Hitler or the RCC or other jokers.
It is the barbaric Christianity that I talked about.
When Thomas Jefefrson wrote this:
"There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites."
"The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ."
"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity.", nobody asked him to provide proof. People, who were well read, knew. So, you have to go and read.
When Mark Twain said, "During many ages there were witches. The Bible said so. The Bible commanded that they should not be allowed to live. Therefore the Church, after doing its duty in but a lazy and indolent way for 800 years, gathered up its halters, thumbscrews, and firebrands, and set about its holy work in earnest. She worked hard at it night and day during nine centuries and imprisoned, tortured, hanged, and burned whole hordes and armies of witches, and washed the Christian world clean with their foul blood. Then it was discovered that there was no such thing as witches, and never had been. One does not know whether to laugh or to cry.", nobody asked him to prove.
As I see, you have only read the Bible for 35 years. You must read and know that Christianity carries a very bad and dirty past.
If I were to write all the atrocities and heinous crimes committed by Christianity and its church engines, the entire broadband would not be enough.
Cheers
BMZ
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