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Jun 30, 2009 | Posted by: Joe DeCaro

Sharia courts operating in UK incompatible with Western legislation: Report

Full story: www.newkerala.com

At least 85 Islamic Sharia courts are currently operational across the UK, a new probe by London based think tank Civitas has revealed. The Civitas found that Muslim clerics have been handing out hundreds of Sharia judgments known as fatwas through mosques around the country ...

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" ...the courts operate largely out of mosques, and are closed to independent observers. Thus, it is extremely difficult to find out what goes on in them.

Sharia courts cannot be recognized under Britain's 1996 Arbitration Act, as they claim authority over the private lives of individuals in a way that is contrary to the British tradition."
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surprise, surprise...!

no worries, Western-politic service pack 2 will make it work seamlessly with Sharia
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Joe DeCaro why do you always make comments about news on islam and muslims?

From what I've read you have none or very little knowledge of Islam, yet you always make comments about it.

The least you could do is get some general knowledge about Islam from muslims themselfs and not what the media portray, before making judgments.

You will find the majority of muslims are against the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Ladan and they don't represent us at all.

It's like with this burka thing in France, muslim woman CHOOSE to wear it, not because of any pressure from husbands or fathers. Yes there are some cases where it is forced but these husbands and fathers are then wrong and are going against islam. It is between the woman and her belief in God only.

These things are not just going on in Islam, they are going on in all religions, but for some reason the media seems to want to make islam look like the enemy.

Islam is not the enemy, terrorists and extremists of religions are the enemies.

A true muslim would not take the life of any innocent man, or any woman or child, that is strictly forbidden in islam.

I was watching a show about the taliban and was disgusted that they call themselves "muslim". They are NOT muslim they are monsters.

Please before you judge, talk to a genuine muslim, you will find we are nothing like the media make out. I have many links to websites which will tell you the true islam and you can see for yourself we are not bad at all.

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yasmeen wrote:
Joe DeCaro why do you always make comments about news on islam and muslims?
I'm an editor for the Islam forum on Topix.
yasmeen wrote:
From what I've read you have none or very little knowledge of Islam ...
After spending 6 months of my life defending Saudi Arabia and another 6 months peacekeeping in the Muslim enclave of Bosnia, I know more abt Islam than you think.
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I was watching a show about the taliban and was disgusted that they call themselves "muslim". They are NOT muslim they are monsters ... we are not bad at all.
You are all not bad, but you are all Muslims, esp. the Taliban, the most zealous Muslims I know of.
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Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I'm an editor for the Islam forum on Topix.
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After spending 6 months of my life defending Saudi Arabia and another 6 months peacekeeping in the Muslim enclave of Bosnia, I know more abt Islam than you think.
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You are all not bad, but you are all Muslims, esp. the Taliban, the most zealous Muslims I know of.
71 Mike HOAAAH!
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"I'm an editor for the Islam forum on Topix."

So we only have your side of the stoty then or opinion, you should have a muslim editor too, so people can see both opinions, that's only fair.

Taliban are NOT muslim, they call themselve muslim but they don't follow the teachings of Islam. Islam is peace and they doing the complete opposite of that.

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yasmeen wrote:
"I'm an editor for the Islam forum on Topix."
So we only have your side of the stoty then or opinion, you should have a muslim editor too, so people can see both opinions, that's only fair.
Taliban are NOT muslim, they call themselve muslim but they don't follow the teachings of Islam. Islam is peace and they doing the complete opposite of that.
http://www.topix.com/member/profile/abunajda

there you go...
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We know that the 911 anthrax attacks were heavily blamed on al qaeda by UK and US governments and their mainstream media cronies/guard dogs.Though this alleged terrorist attack was in reality an inside job
BBC seem to have a habit of calling people 'conspiracy theorists' when people have suspicions and provide evidence of al qaeda terrorist outrages, being instead an inside job or a false flag operation.
I wonder if the BBC would still label people 'conspiracy theorists' when these people provided evidence of the 911Anthrax attack as not being carried out by al qaeda..........
Here is one of the fake letters that were sent with the anthrax during 911.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anthraxnote...
Notice that the real culprits responsible for this outrage are everything in this letter they claim to hate and threaten, but not what they claim to be.....
I wonder what other alqaeda terrorist outrages were really 'an inside job'. You will never get the truth from the BBC conspiracy files programmmes.
reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_att...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
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Allah wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/member/profile/abunajda
there you go...
How about you pass me your mother for tonight so i cud fcuk her on the crucifix in sum church?

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<quoted text> How about you pass me your mother for tonight so i cud fcuk her on the crucifix in sum church?
topix really needs to add a "? WTF" to the judge it thing.

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i cant believe any western country would allow this crap.
agreed

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everything has a bias, including the BBC. it is up to you to be aware of that bias and take it into account.

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yasmeen wrote:
... you should have a muslim editor too, so people can see both opinions, that's only fair.

We do: his name is "Abu".

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... Taliban are NOT muslim, they call themselve muslim but they don't follow the teachings of Islam. Islam is peace and they doing the complete opposite of that.
Go tell the Taliban they're not Muslims: they are simply more honest abt their aggression against non-Muslims and anyone else whom they disagree with.

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yasmeen wrote:
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Taliban are NOT muslim, they call themselve muslim but they don't follow the teachings of Islam. Islam is peace and they doing the complete opposite of that.
"Taliban are NOT muslim"
Is that your idea of combating terrorism?
If they are not Muslims, why would they be fighting to install Sharia Law?

My guess is they say you aren't a Muslim because you are not willing to die to instill Sharia Law.
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The UK is part of the European Union and it's laws are based on EU laws. The UK is not really a country anymore, it's more a state of the EU.
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what us MUSLIMS call Sharia Law and what the Taliban call Sharia Law is two different things. DO YOUR RESEARCH! talk to majority of muslims, not the minority! you will learn alot. but you wouldnt do that because your happy living like this hating muslims, if it wasnt muslims it would be something else, something to blame all your problems on except yourself.

I repeat islam is not the enemy, the enemies are the ones making you think islam is.

You will see one day God willing, till then i just pray you see the light one day. Even my own family think like you all, just because of media.

It's amazing how we believe anything that comes on that box.
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They must be overdue an award for services to thier own kind.
What with iraq being freed from the 'terrorists' things are looking peachy are they not?
A new front opening in afghanistan to the north should provide hours of fun for bored 'predator' operators,that and the iranians thinking of having a holiday from islam, because of them being smothered with the care of the 'mother nation'
Pakistan has finally decided the best thing to do would be to kill themselves, all in all things are looking up for infidels worldwide.
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I agree: Pakistan should just kill itself.

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yasmeen wrote:
what us MUSLIMS call Sharia Law and what the Taliban call Sharia Law is two different things. DO YOUR RESEARCH! talk to majority of muslims, not the minority! you will learn alot. but you wouldnt do that because your happy living like this hating muslims, if it wasnt muslims it would be something else, something to blame all your problems on except yourself.
I repeat islam is not the enemy, the enemies are the ones making you think islam is.
You will see one day God willing, till then i just pray you see the light one day. Even my own family think like you all, just because of media.
It's amazing how we believe anything that comes on that box.
Look, kiddo,
The people on here are not ignorant, as much and you and Abooboo would love to hope. Sorry to disappoint you.
You know, the majority are not always correct? Numbers do not make it necessarily right.
It's your word against your Muslim brother's words. The Taliban and al Qaida believe in their hearts they are following Islam. Who are you to say they are wrong and you are right? Just because you think you have the numbers behind you?
If these Muslims are wrong, why aren't you trying to convince THEM they're wrong? Where is the movement to fight them? Why is it we see violent hateful demonstrations by Muslims throughout the world over a depiction of Mohammed but see NOTHING SIMILAR when the Taliban and al Qaida terrorists murder and kill?
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A true muslim would not take the life of any innocent man, or any woman or child, that is strictly forbidden in islam.
I was watching a show about the taliban and was disgusted that they call themselves "muslim". They are NOT muslim they are monsters.
Please before you judge, talk to a genuine muslim, you will find we are nothing like the media make out. I have many links to websites which will tell you the true islam and you can see for yourself we are not bad at all.
Hi Yasmeen.
I like what you have said and you have made some interesting points. I think that in todays world, it is very easy for community groups to misjudge each other - which isnt helpful.
Perhaps if I give you a few examples of the things that concern me (relating to the Muslim and Islamic community)you may have a better idea - or peven offer a solution.
The issue of Shariah courts operating in Britain is a real concern. I am sure it has its good points, but the UK has a legal system. When anyone - from any country chooses to reside in the UK, then they are agreeing to abide by the UK law. Unfortunately, Shariah courts DO operate here, dispensing Shariah justice. That in itself is illegal and is actually an insult to Britain.
Women wearing Berkers. Well, I for one do not like the veil or the Berka. Yes, ALL women in Europe ARE free to wear what they like. I regard the Berka the same as I regard the 'hoodie'. When the lads who wear hoodies are asked why they do it, they nearly all say that they put their hoods up when they se someone from a rival council estate - or gang. I admit, Islamic women are not thugs.But while Im sure there are some islamic women who wear their Berker purely from choice, there are an alarming amount who wear them as a physical barrier to integration. Like the hoodies - it says, you are not one of us - or more importantly,'we are not one of you'.
A year or two ago, someone - a white english man I think, was charged with an offence against a Muslim woman. His offence was to rev his car up in a RACIST way while she was crossing the road (at a pedestrian crossing).
There are many non Islamic British citizens who feel that we - the non Islamic British have no grounds to complain, and that is how I am begining to feel. My son tries to play with the Muslim kids in the street. The Muslim parents shout at their children and they immediately stop playing with him - not to go in, but to play amongst themselves. when a class of school children is divided into work groups by the teacher, the Islamics in the group suddenly stop speaking in English. This literaly excludes the non islamics, and it makes it impossible to work as a group.
You are clearly someone that has her head screwed on the right way. Unfortunately, Im starting to think that those islamics who are happy to live in the UK and integrate into the UK way of life are becoming the minority. I dont know where the other islamics get their idea's - but they are getting them from somewhere.
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