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Catholic Church gives D.C. ultimatum on same-sex marriage issue

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“Retired Navy Chief”

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eric wrote:
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I was able to find these DC area charities within a matter of minutes. There are probably 100s more.
Cupcakes for a Cause
Georgetown bakery's recipe to help Pediatric AIDS
Warm Donation
Black Pride brings in the coats
Community Growth
Brother Help Thyself awards grants to 32 local organizations, focuses on smaller groups
Mama's Mission
Noi Chudnoff dedicates dollars for social justice
BHT Holds 27th Reception
$91,655 in grants given to community organizations
These are liberal or gay organizations that help the poor? Even if they are none of these has the organization, extra money to donate, the volunteers, or the facilities to step in and fill the shoes of Catholic Charities, the Salvation Army, or other major faith based groups when it comes to providing food, clothing, and shelter to the poor on a daily basis. A cupcake a day won't do it. I'm still waiting.

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BEE33 wrote:
<quoted text>Fine, keep your head stuffed up your rectum as long as you like. Why you like it is a mystery, but unlike your church, I believe you have the right to act on your own beliefs instead of having them imposed on you.
It is not my church.

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Nov 25, 2009
 
CPOUSN wrote:
<quoted text>These are liberal or gay organizations that help the poor? Even if they are none of these has the organization, extra money to donate, the volunteers, or the facilities to step in and fill the shoes of Catholic Charities, the Salvation Army, or other major faith based groups when it comes to providing food, clothing, and shelter to the poor on a daily basis. A cupcake a day won't do it. I'm still waiting.
Hate to tell you but the Salvation Army doesn't discriminate unlike Catholic Charities. There will be sufficient resources given the money available through DC grants to get the job done.
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Funny that the Catholic Church goes against the teachings of Jesus...
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CPOUSN wrote:
<quoted text>I think the Catholic Church should be allowed to continue to help the poor without having conditions imposed on it by fringe groups who care only for their own agenda, not the poor who will be hurt. This case is more positive proof that Gay community activists are selfish like teenagers, and suffer from tunnel vision.
Fcuk the Catholic Church! They are blackmailing DC. They are the selfish ones. What, exactly would be imposed on them?

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fuzi wrote:
<quoted text>So the catholic church, like a petulant child throwing a temper tantrum, would rather children starve or be homeless than follow the law?
You blame the church for standing by it's beliefs? I blame the state for passing laws that are appeasing certain groups and in turn harming these kids...

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Littleton, NH

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You blame the church for standing by it's beliefs? I blame the state for passing laws that are appeasing certain groups and in turn harming these kids...
So I take it you would be happy if the KKK got the contract and discriminated against both blacks and Catholics?

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Windy City Player wrote:
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You blame the church for standing by it's beliefs? I blame the state for passing laws that are appeasing certain groups and in turn harming these kids...
No doubt your parents said much the same things when neighborhoods in Chicago were becoming integrated.

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Windy City Player wrote:
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You blame the church for standing by it's beliefs? I blame the state for passing laws that are appeasing certain groups and in turn harming these kids...
Harming kids is something the RCC does better than anybody. Did you hear about the report released in Ireland just the other day detailing the way the bishops of Dublin spent decades enabling the rape and molestation of generations of kids? Yet again, you pretend (or are you REALLY that stupid?) that this somehow involves anything but charities which use TAX DOLLARS. It does not in any way interfere with anything going on WITHIN the (fraudulent, criminal) church. Again I ask, why does the RCC feel it must put so many conditions on charity?
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If the catholic church is willing to ruin hundreds of kids lives, because of their own unfounded beliefs about gays and lesbians, then they really shouldn't be in charge of these kinds of services anyways. Leave it to someone who actually cares about children enough not to limit their adoptive choices simply based on sexual orientation. And the fact that the church is holding the future of kids HOSTAGE just because of their own beliefs is very selfish and un-Christ like. I feel bad for the kids, but no church is going to blackmail me out of my rights by using children as their source. It's just sick and disgusting.

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tophtheearthbender wrote:
If the catholic church is willing to ruin hundreds of kids lives, because of their own unfounded beliefs about gays and lesbians, then they really shouldn't be in charge of these kinds of services anyways. Leave it to someone who actually cares about children enough not to limit their adoptive choices simply based on sexual orientation. And the fact that the church is holding the future of kids HOSTAGE just because of their own beliefs is very selfish and un-Christ like. I feel bad for the kids, but no church is going to blackmail me out of my rights by using children as their source. It's just sick and disgusting.
They *are* sick and disgusting. They're scumbuckets. I've actually come to believe they are evil. I need no further prodding or convincing. The "fruits" of their labor lie like *vomit and stink* upon everything they do.
HappilyCelibatei nChrist

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Nov 30, 2009
 
Rose wrote:
Funny that the Catholic Church goes against the teachings of Jesus...
And you know about the teachings of Jesus.

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HappilyCelibateinChrist wrote:
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And you know about the teachings of Jesus.
Your replies shock the conscience in their foolishness. You *grasp at anything* to simply "oppose" people.
HappilyCelibatei nChrist

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Your replies shock the conscience in their foolishness. You *grasp at anything* to simply "oppose" people.
No. I just think it's ironic because just like you she has made clear her hatred of Christians. So I'm confused as to what she would know about the teachings of Jesus??

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HappilyCelibateinChrist wrote:
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No. I just think it's ironic because just like you she has made clear her hatred of Christians. So I'm confused as to what she would know about the teachings of Jesus??
WOW, AGAIN: Your replies shock the conscience in their foolishness. You *grasp at anything* to simply "oppose" people.

She hates "christians" like you who *savagely attack gay people* and *lie about it* nonstop because they're soulless and evil. That's all.

That has *nothing* to do with her knowledge of biblical teaching. Fancy you thinking that someone must think as *YOU* do in order to *KNOW* anything. That's what you're *REALLY* saying here.
HappilyCelibatei nChrist

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rdg1234 wrote:
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WOW, AGAIN: Your replies shock the conscience in their foolishness. You *grasp at anything* to simply "oppose" people.
She hates "christians" like you who *savagely attack gay people* and *lie about it* nonstop because they're soulless and evil. That's all.
That has *nothing* to do with her knowledge of biblical teaching. Fancy you thinking that someone must think as *YOU* do in order to *KNOW* anything. That's what you're *REALLY* saying here.
As someone who routinely express anti-Christian hate, of course you would be stunned.

No one "savagely attacks gay people". People simply have a different point of view than you. I have rarely ever seen any of these "lies" you keep posting about. Just because you can randomly invent aspersions do not make them true.

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HappilyCelibateinChrist wrote:
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No. I just think it's ironic because just like you she has made clear her hatred of Christians. So I'm confused as to what she would know about the teachings of Jesus??
As the earliest of the Gospels was written generations after Jesus was supposed to have lived, what makes you think YOU know ANYTHING about the 'teachings of Jesus'?

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HappilyCelibateinChrist wrote:
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As someone who routinely express anti-Christian hate, of course you would be stunned.
See?

I wonder *if it's automatic that you omit from every post* exactly WHY people are doing this. Know what?

Let's get this out of the way and be *fantastically blunt* so you get the message and so *we both know you have no excuse* to keep presenting this in a one-sided and lying manner.

Ready?

The basic "christian" attitude as "codified" even into a "declaration" released recently -- the "Manhattan Declaration" -- states clearly and unequivocally that "christians" want gay people to have no equality in marriage.

The document says this flat-out. It has been called anti-gay and worse.

OK, now. Wrap your head around this.

So long as that is the "christian" attitude, I will criticize "christianity" and the "church" as much as I want,*and nothing you say will stop me in any way, shape or form*. You are defeated *from the get-go* in having *any influence ever* in my speaking out against prejudice, bigotry and evil.

If you cannot grasp that, you are *lying to the board* when you pretend it's happening *for no reason*. And every time you lie and someone calls you out or christianity out,*I DON'T GIVE A F*** IF THEY ARE CALLING YOU NAMES*, so please, stop *bothering* me with your bullshit and your *deliberate lies*.

I'm sick of them. I'm sick of you *lying* about it.
HappilyCelibateinChrist wrote:
No one "savagely attacks gay people".
Liar.
HappilyCelibateinChrist wrote:
People simply have a different point of view than you.
Liar.
HappilyCelibateinChrist wrote:
I have rarely ever seen any of these "lies" you keep posting about. Just because you can randomly invent aspersions do not make them true.
Yeah, just because you *lie and lie* doesn't make anything you say true, nor is it *untrue* that you are constantly, endlessly lying.

But please, bring some of your precious "priests" and "bishops" onto the board and I'll tell them *EXACTLY* the same thing I tell you -- as I have done repeatedly on these boards.
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Dec 3, 2009
 
BEE33 wrote:
<quoted text>As the earliest of the Gospels was written generations after Jesus was supposed to have lived, what makes you think YOU know ANYTHING about the 'teachings of Jesus'?
The Bible is the Word of God. It doesn't matter when God placed it in the heart of man to write that Word down.
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rdg1234 wrote:
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See?
I wonder *if it's automatic that you omit from every post* exactly WHY people are doing this. Know what?
Let's get this out of the way and be *fantastically blunt* so you get the message and so *we both know you have no excuse* to keep presenting this in a one-sided and lying manner.
Ready?
The basic "christian" attitude as "codified" even into a "declaration" released recently -- the "Manhattan Declaration" -- states clearly and unequivocally that "christians" want gay people to have no equality in marriage.
The document says this flat-out. It has been called anti-gay and worse.
OK, now. Wrap your head around this.
So long as that is the "christian" attitude, I will criticize "christianity" and the "church" as much as I want,*and nothing you say will stop me in any way, shape or form*. You are defeated *from the get-go* in having *any influence ever* in my speaking out against prejudice, bigotry and evil.
If you cannot grasp that, you are *lying to the board* when you pretend it's happening *for no reason*. And every time you lie and someone calls you out or christianity out,*I DON'T GIVE A F*** IF THEY ARE CALLING YOU NAMES*, so please, stop *bothering* me with your bullshit and your *deliberate lies*.
I'm sick of them. I'm sick of you *lying* about it.
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Liar.
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Liar.
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Yeah, just because you *lie and lie* doesn't make anything you say true, nor is it *untrue* that you are constantly, endlessly lying.
But please, bring some of your precious "priests" and "bishops" onto the board and I'll tell them *EXACTLY* the same thing I tell you -- as I have done repeatedly on these boards.
Yes, Christians oppose gay marriage. Rightly so and I hope by any means necessary. We have rolled over enough and allowed your breed to pervert morals in this country. Besides, if anyone were to replace the word "Christian" in your diatribes with the word "Jews", and it would be even clear what you're all about. You would have been far happier in 1930's Germany.
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