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Oak Level, VA

Shawn Paden confused over doctrine

An adulterous couple is an oxymoron! Show me Bible Chapter and Verse of the Apostles requiring someone to leave their current husband or wife and return to a previous spouse? Just on example, or explain how Jesus lied to the woman at the well who had 5 HUSBANDS according to Jesus?  (Wednesday Nov 25 | post #222)

Oak Level, VA

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Based on timelines thats online about 2 years or less, seems like a long time today, but then two years was no time as far as how much the message could have spread. Thus they were challenged as soon as the Jews saw them as a threat to the Jewish traditions.  (Wednesday Nov 25 | post #38)

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Tell it to Steven! Acts 6:7(Q)The word of God kept on spreading; and (R)the number of the disciples continued to increase greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were becoming obedient to (S)the faith. 8And Stephen, full of grace and power, was performing great (T)wonders and signs among the people. 9But some men from what was called the Synagogue of the Freedmen, including both (U)Cyrenians and (V)Alexandrians, and some from (W)Cilicia and (X)Asia, rose up and argued with Stephen. So were these men finding favor with Stephen?  (Tuesday Nov 17 | post #35)

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Does anyone else see the small problem with a man who cuts and pastes what others say about the bible more then anyone I have seen telling another they should study more about the Bible?!? Perhaps Shawn you should try and post your own thoughts on the Bible to prove you actually read it and then you can start to help with the alleged pebbles of others!  (Tuesday Nov 17 | post #34)

Oak Level, VA

Gospel Preaching

Heath I have great hope that demons may yet be cast out! But in this case who are the "they" if it is any believers then I have to ask how another passage about gifts being given out to each: 2 Cor 12:7But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit (L)for the common good. 8For to one is given the word of (M)wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of (N)knowledge according to the same Spirit; 9to another (O)faith by the same Spirit, and to another (P)gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 10and to another the effecting of (Q)miracles, and to another (R)prophecy, and to another the (S)distinguishing of spirits, to another various (T)kinds of tongues, and to another the (U)interpretation of tongues. 11But one and the same Spirit works all these things, (V)distributing to each one individually just as He wills. In 1 Cor it appears that not all people are given the same things as gifts go. Thus there seems to be a difference in how these gifts of Mark 16 are given compared to the rest of the gifts. Secondly there is no Biblical evidence to show that all believers did those things. If they did then the sick would all have been healed by the 5000 on the first day that God added to the Church. However that does not seem to be the case. And finally there is that small prophetic statement that says they will drink poison and not be harmed, please someone, anyone on the planet quote me BCV where this happens? I can not find where this prophetic statement was ever shown to come to pass in the Bible. So could it be the "they" are the small original group of believers themselves since they constituted all who believed at the time these words were spoken but still it does not resolve the poison. However if someone still believed in the gifts, this passage would quickly quiet them through death to prove it or through fear. Where is the fulfillment of that prophetic statement people? It is the elephant in the room that speaks to the truth of the longer ending of Mark!  (Tuesday Nov 17 | post #13)

Oak Level, VA

The Silence of Scripture

Nice binding of two unrelated passages but the first passage was purely about the Holy Spirits regeneration, not about water baptism! Since you convert the Holy Spirit into water, is water your god?  (Sunday Nov 15 | post #67)

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The early church was a hunted church, many of them being killed for what they believed, it would be foolish in that environment to draw attention to yourselves with instruments. I often wander if the speaking to yourselves was not that, a quite speaking to keep the noise down and stay safe!  (Sunday Nov 15 | post #24)

Oak Level, VA

Perfect obedience is not essential to salvation.

Great points AOG!!!!!! Let me add to that, since they are doing the same things and judging salvation at the same time they have been placed in a trap that will see them judged at the same level that they judge. PLEASE HEAR THE ABOVE, you are dancing in danger of judgment from God at the same level you judge, please repent from this, otherwise it will only be the mercy of God that stands in the way of the seed you sow!  (Sunday Nov 15 | post #7)

Oak Level, VA

Shawn Paden confused over doctrine

False doctrines you mean like the use of Ezra 10 to try and force people to return to previous spouses? It's no feeling James stood right on TV and said he told the pastor (forget the name) that he would not tape him but he then claimed to have a tape, thus he lied, even if he put a tape for tv use on it, it's still deceptive answer meant to make you think he was not taping. And I am suppsoed to listen to this man for him to tell me the way to salvation?  (Sunday Nov 15 | post #177)

Oak Level, VA

Shawn Paden confused over doctrine

Hmmmmmm did I miss this show? All I have seen are accusations and lies to others, postal employees, average citizens where you claim to ask them to come visit and then use a hidden camera to keep the momeny flow coming to the TV show, and deception/lies to pastors even when asked not to tape, still taping after saying you won't per James comments a few weeks ago, and finally Johnny himself every time he stands in front of the TV and claims he only wants to ask a question when in reality he is looking to defeat and destroy others. Hmmmmm Good News Glad Tidings, where is it???  (Sunday Nov 15 | post #158)

Oak Level, VA

Shawn Paden caught in a lie

Well it looks like I ran the great and powerful Johnny Robertson out of this thread, since he had plenty of time to post to others but left this one alone it appears he as decided to run away rather then explain how Jesus could lie to the woman at the well about her 5 husbands since according to Johnny you can have only one unless he has died. John you would be better off grasping the straw of all 5 husbands dieing but I would think Jesus would have spoken of her pain if that had been the case. So it is clear she was divorced 5 times and living with a 6th man. 5 husbands from Jesus lips confronting your 1 husband false doctrine to all others. I'm sure your righteous judgment can do better then this, you know that judgment that Jesus was speaking of about judging God when he spoke those words and not about judgment of other men.  (Sunday Nov 15 | post #97)

Oak Level, VA

Is Martinsville Church Of Christ a big lie?

We care nothing for justice and truth, gee I guess we should stop debating you in the forums. Still waiting for the truth of how Jesus can lie to the woman at the well about her 5 husbands and not be a sinner, as you claim! Or are you willing to stop causing more sin with this false teaching on Ezra 10?  (Sunday Nov 15 | post #11)

Oak Level, VA

The Silence of Scripture

Hey shawn is being baptized for the dead a sin? Was it ever rebuked?  (Saturday Nov 14 | post #63)

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Considering James told a pastor he would not tape him and claimed to have a tape, what do you call that, I call it being a liar. So how did he phrase it did he tell him he would not tape him for TV? So you use deceit to spread dissension among others. Since you are into this why have you not visited a Jewish house of worship, I see a pattern of the original church doing that but I do not see you doing that! As for pride, that comes before the fall John! How is your father?  (Saturday Nov 14 | post #16)

Oak Level, VA

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Heath did you ever consider that when you are a hunted man generally you don't blow a trumpet to give away your position!  (Saturday Nov 14 | post #13)