That might be ok... less coyote ugly moments! (Wednesday | post #12)
I would... it'd be worth it to have a troll-free forum. (Wednesday | post #6)
http://www.msnbc.m sn.com/id/34145857 /ns/today-today_pe ople/ (Wednesday | post #1)
Yeah, I am ok now and I should not have let my temper get the best of me. I always try not to get too personal on here, if I had not had that 3rd glass my common sense would have stopped me from sharing so much with online strangers. Not that I don't like you guys,but we all have boundaries, you know? I have my own bitterness, but when discussing religion I try to keep it all logical and keep my own personal bias out of it. Some take great comfort from their faith and I support that 100%. If someone can take comfort and sleep through the night and feel like there is someone watching over them, I would never want to take that away. My bitterness is my own, and I regret pushing it on you. Not all Christians are bad, and although it is only a very small minority who I have met who are good, I don't want to lose hope I will meet another good one tomorrow. Logically, I realize my experiences don't apply to the entire group. I'm sorry if I as too harsh, and tomorrow is another day, right? I can maybe be nicer then. I still think this Bishop is wrong, not because he is actually incorrect, but because the rules have not been applied consistently and that makes his position unfair and hypocritical. What goes for one should go for all, or not at all. (Tuesday | post #141)
That's not even all of it, but it is late and I probably have disclosed too much out of anger and emotion already. I appreciate your prayers, not because I think it will help, nor do I need help now, but because I respect your beliefs and I appreciate your kind thoughts. I also know it is the best you can think of, and whether or not I believe your efforts in prayer are wasted, you believe they mean something and will make a difference. I get that, being raised by a minister, and it does mean something to me as expression because it means you care, which is all I could ever ask. Whether or not I share your beliefs is irrelevant, it still means something to me that you have some kindness in your heart to share. So thank you for praying for me. Also pray and think of, as I do, those women who would rather die by setting themselves on fire than go on one more day in the hell they are living being tortured and raped daily with no escape except death. I have no greater wish than that they would someday have the opportunity that I have had to do something about it. What I went throug pales in comparison to what they suffer every day. I had options, they do not. Shaniya, Elizabeth, Michael and the other children who slip through the cracks, suffer and even die now in this country keep me awake at night and I feel guilty even dwelling on the troubles in my distant past that do not compare. I'm past it. I should not even have brought up factors that contribute to my own bitterness, it was totally selfish of me and out of anger. There are others who deserve our thoughts, prayers and positive energy, and they need it now, far more than I do or ever did. My heart aches for them and I am grateful for the life I had. I am grateful for what I survived, because none of us realize how strong we are until we are tested. My trials were a gift, because when I face hardships now I know what I can take and what I am capable of, and I do not worry about the future because I know I will be ok. How many would give everything to have that feeling right now? I am truly lucky to know that about myself, and have the life I do. Those truly innocent victims never were given that chance, and that is who I think of as I go to sleep every night and hope they are ok. In fact although I don't believe in God, I hope I am wrong because I want so badly to believe there is someone looking after them. Nothing will make me happier than to discover you are right when I die, even if it means my own condemnation, for their sake. As bad as hell is supposed to be, it can't be as bad as knowing they are lost and that no one cares. I can deal with where I belong for my rejection of God if they are loved. Of course it's a contradiction because I also believe if there was a God, he would have spared them, so I find myself incapable of believing. I don't mean to in any way put down your beliefs though, I apologize again if it sounds that way. I don't want to ridicule you even though I can't agree. (Tuesday | post #140)
Repenting and being saved is what will get one into heaven, not good works. However, the theory goes, that once saved, one will want to be a good person and will desire to strive to act more like Christ. Does that mean that cruel Christians are not truly saved? Because if they were, they would not act like modern day Christians. (Tuesday | post #136)
Hypocrites are the most common example, I believe, because they hurt people the most. I believe that is why that was the one sin that made Jesus lose his temper. Rules adapted, if that makes you more comfortable, rather thn changed. Either way, they did because of new information and new circumstances i.e. Jesus. Yes, blood is still blood, and the blood of the lamb of Jesus simply replaced the blood required prior to his arrival, so in that way perhaps the "rules" are similar. I never said Jesus condoned adultery, only that he forgave it. Same with other crimes. God indeed does condone captial punishment in certain cases, I did not mean to imply otherwise. But as NON-all-knowing humans, how often are we 100% sure the person we are putting to death is truly guilty? Like I mentioned, although I am favor of it, if one person is exonerated after death, it will shock our system to the core and likely overturn the death penalty forever, because we are not all-seeing God. If we have made a mistake, we may make another, and that will be enough reason to outlaw it. Why I believe the Catholic church is against it... none of us are without sin, we are born of Adam and Eve and our sin is inherent, even as infants, and even in our thoughts, whether we act on them or not. Therefore none of us is worthy of casting the first stone. (Tuesday | post #135)
Just because I don't believe does not make me not knowledgable so what is your point? What "am I really"? Not that it is any of your business, but I was raped at gunpoint as a CHILD, when I was 100% dedicated to God.. I had no choice, there was a gun to my head and my attacker outweighed me by over 100 lbs. I have been, and am judged to this day, decades later, for being "unclean " and in direct disobedience of God. According to them I should have died before submitting, although I had no choice either way. The Christian people I looked to for comfort as a Christian CHILD instead dealt me rejection and judgment. I found true support and acceptance from those who are not religious, but spiritual and they are the ones who gave me the strength to be who and what I am now, a successful, independant woman who supports a family. The things I suffered and survived are because of them, after being rejected by born-again family, catholic friends, and an orthodox fiance alike. I lived in my car and went into debt while obtaining my education to make something of myself after being thrown out and rejected for violating God's law, even though I did not choose what made me unclean. I was 63 lbs when I "disobeyed " God. How old were you when you were so small? You tell me, know it all, all-knowing, all-great and powerful Vin, what I should have done differently? What should I have done to make your so-called "God" or any of you not turn his back on me? What in your mind, would have made a difference so that people like you would not judge me and turn your backs when I was so terrified and desperate for help? How dare you judge me now, when I saw nothing but turned backs when I needed human comfort? Now that I have faced, dealt with and turned my back on my attackers, both violent and Christian alike, and made something of myself, all by myself and totally alone, what gives you the right to say such things about me? You don't know me, you know nothing about me or my life. You feel free to judge based on what? My politics? I am a strong, educated independant woman with a bright future, and that is my doing and my doing alone. You cannot fathom what it took for me to transform myself from that scared, abused, rejected, lonely little girl to the strong, good and ethical person I have become, you know nothing. So answer me with a real meaningful answer or shut up. I look forward to you "giving me the rope". (Tuesday | post #134)
In what way? I've had a ton of exposure to Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox as well... so please add what that explains about me as well. (Tuesday | post #131)
LOL I work in corporate, and that is so not true! People whine about every little thing... like copy paper ans post-it notes being the wrong color. Having rules enforced inconsistently is not a little thing though. (Tuesday | post #127)
He abhorred cheating of the poor and vulnerable, especially in the place they were coming for salvation, and the hypocrisy they exhibited. Something IMO many modern-day Christians are afflicted with. (Tuesday Nov 24 | post #107)
Because I can. :-) I can discuss it from an informed, knowledgable point of view. What burns people up I think is that my opinions are actually not ignorant, but based on legitimate facts. There's always disagreement of course, but to just call me names and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about is just false. Not to mention RUDE! LOL Isn't bearing false witness another sin? (Tuesday Nov 24 | post #106)
I'm not saying to pick and choose. I'm saying if you follow it in it's chronological order, the rules change over time. Jesus specifically preached against "an eye for an eye". He would not let the adulturous woman be stoned as commanded in the Old Testamant rules. We don't practice animal sacrifice anymore, right? Lots of rules changed with the coming of Jesus. As far as praying for me, whatever makes your heart happy I suppose, but remember I was raised in a born-again community and know firsthand how hateful, vengeful and hypocritical Christians can be so I am unlikely to ever convert. In fact Vin reminds me of a part of a scripture I memorized somewhere along the way... " Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me." (Tuesday Nov 24 | post #105)
We don't know what happened to them after death. We also don't know if they were actually murderers or some other kind of evil-doers, and we also don't know how many there were. It's cool though that you changed the subject rather than acknowledge what made Jesus really angry. He wasn't even angry at Judas, who betrayed him, but there's one thing apparently he had no tolerance for. It's cool though, lots of Christians here and I understand it's a taboo subject. (Tuesday Nov 24 | post #98)
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