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Gay/Lesbian

Maine voters reject gay-marriage law

Eaglefan9727-- "Prove it to a community that believes the gay lifestyle is not a choice." There's no "belief" involved. It's already been proven that sexual orientation IS NOT CHOSEN and cannot be changed. "I chose to be straight when I was growing up as a kid and I didnt try having sex with a man." Lie. NOBODY chooses their sexual orientation. Being gay is not caused by "trying to have sex with a man." Being gay is about being attracted romantically and physically to people of the same sex. "After the way I have seen the gay community act over the last few years and stealing the votes from the will of the people in California." They didn't "steal" anything any more than blacks "stole" slavery. The voters do NOT have the right to deny basic equality to others with an election. "I wouldnt help them out at all if it was their last hope." Making you a bigot. "And the gay community doesnt have a right to dictate what a "so called" right is to the american people." No, the Constitution does, and these rights are given by God. Equality is one of them.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #1421)

Gay/Lesbian

Maine voters reject gay-marriage law

Dumbocrat Hater--"I suggest you pick up a Bible and read it from cover to cover. God descibes homosexuals as "Wicked" and "Detestable "." Lie. Homosexuals are never described by ANYONE in the Bible, much less by God. This is just plain made up, the blasphemous sin of making up scripture to promote hate and bigotry. "In the book of Levitcus, he describes these people a s"VOMIT" !" Again, a bald-faced lie. Homosexuality is never mentioned in Leviticus, nobody's "vomit" is described, and God didn't write Leviticus, either. "Wake your brain up and accept Christ while you still have a chance!" A fine thing, but not remotely related to homosexuality. Plenty of gay people are Christian, and there's nothing Christian about your hate and homophobia. "GOD also says we need to protect our children from people like you with your evil thoughts! Keep your filthy nasty self to your self." Actually we need to protect our children from people like YOU with YOUR evil thoughts. Your hate and bigotry is evil and destructive, and trying to blame it on God with made-up scripture is worse. "Gays have no rights!" Lie. They should have exactly the same rights as everyone else. "Obama can't protect them from GOD!!!!!" He doesn't need to, God loves them as much as everyone else.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #1420)

Gay/Lesbian

Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

Again, it's so simple... Love is the law. If you cheat on a spouse, you harm him or her, you wouldn't want him or her doing that to you, so it's a sin. A committed loving couple having sex is not a sin.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #21377)

Gay/Lesbian

Evangelicals to Gays: We Have Nothing For You | RD Blog: The De...

Not laws, law. DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE OTHERS DO UNTO YOU. Every legitimate law falls under this one. The idea that the weird purity codes of the Old Testament are "God's laws" is warped, and Jesus said it's not true. Paul's letters aren't God's law. Jesus said treating others with love is God's law. Period.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #21376)

Gay/Lesbian

Osteen: Gays Aren't "God's Best"

Western1--"I guess we disagree on what is "conversion therapy". Knowing Dr. Hamilton, personally, having heard her many times, having heard the previous president of NARTH, Dr. Joseph Nicolosi several times at Love One Out, on the radio, read his material and on CDs...I have never interpreted "Conversion Therpay" from that." Conversion therapy is a PROVEN lie and it's EXACTLY what you're claiming, the false idea that a person who is homosexual can magically become heterosexual, can "leave behind" the "homosexual life." Nicolosi and NARTH are hate groups with ZERO scientific credibility. their "research " on the topic has NEVER ONCE been published in a peer-reviewed journal. Not a single time. "I have however, heard them mention "re-orientati on therapy" Perhaps this is more palpable than conversion." No, it's cheap word games, all for the same destructive lie. "I disagree completely on both accounts. That you cannot change orientation and that it's inborn. I'm living proof!" Lie. Both are proven facts, and the only thing you've "proven" is that you've been very deeply brainwashed into repeating the same lies over and over again. You WERE born gay, and you have NOT changed your orientation. Nobody ever has. "Gay or confined as a nun. What sad options." More hate. You pretend you don't hate, then you spread MORE hate. Those are NOT sad options, there's not a thing wrong or sad about being gay. I agree that your sick option of celebacy is sad. Those ARE the only choices for gay people, however. "I can tell you, sister, that there is VICTORY in Jesus Christ." Don't you DARE blaspheme our savior by calling your despicable destructive lies victory in Jesus Christ. "He has redeemed me and MANY others who have chosen to surrender and realized that we are helpless before our fleash." The same lies over and love again. Being gay is no more about "flesh" than being heterosexual. You only "surrendered " to hate groups and lies, not to Christ. "If we're going to make it, we need Him and the family of god He sorrounds us with." Sadly instead of finding REAL family of God you found hate groups who exploit God to promote thier own bigotry and hate. There ARE people who truly surround gay people with God's love in open and affirming churches, including many outstanding homosexual ministers...whom your hate groups viciously attack and hate more than any other gay person. "My goal is to encourage and challenge you not attack, accuse or condemn." You want to "encourage " and "challenge " people into a trap of destruction. "Did you stop attending that Baptist Church which led you to Christ?" One can hope. NOBODY should go to a church that tells them God's rejecting them because they happen to be gay. Not every Baptist church teaches this but many do. A person is better off never setting foot in a church than being in a church promoting those hateful lies. "Did you continue attending Bible studies? Are you presently reading His Word?" Which never says a single THING about homosexuality, but DOES tell us to treat others the way we'd want to be treated. "I hope my convictions don;t come across as mean either." They do. You're leading to misery and destruction and horrible pain and suffering for people, helping NOBODY. not a SINGLE person is the slightest bit better off from your hate groups' and your advertising for them. You've been taught to act very sweet and kind, but you might as well carry a bat around and beat up gay people, it would be better for them then the damage your hate groups cause. "It's what I believe." It's what you've been brainwashed to believe, even though it's PROVEN lies and insults and hates you deeply.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #950)

Gay/Lesbian

Osteen: Gays Aren't "God's Best"

Western1--"If I hated gay people, I wouldn't be heare. Where have you read ANY hate or anything hateful in my posts?" Every post you make is hateful. The destructive lie that homosexuality can be "left behind" is hateful, the blasphemous lie that God views homosexuality as a "sin" is hateful. "I guess your hate theory is wrong." No, it's not. "To share my testimony and tell others that God loves them and wants to forgive them is NOT hate, pal." Nor is that your "testimony " at ALL, liar. Saying God loves them and wants to forgive all our sins is fine, it's not CLOSE to what you're saying. You're saying being gay is a sin, which is a lie and is hate. You're saying homosexuality can be 'cured' which is hate and is a lie. "It's because I care deeply for Christians in the gay community and those who struggle in silence that I'm on here." Lie. You are on here to try to trap more gay people in the same trap you're in, to destroy more lives, and to further the ONLY goal of these hate groups--TO MAKE BIGOTRY AND HOMOPHOBIA ACCEPTABLE BY PROMOTING THE PROVEN LIE THAT GAY PEOPLE CAN MAGICALLY 'CURE' THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND THAT IT IS A 'SIN' TO BE GAY. "I want to encourage them and let them know about my testimony and that of many others." Your "testimony " is proven lies which destroy the lives of countless young gay people and contribute to hate and self-loathing, and drive thousands AWAY from the church and the love of God. "I want them to know about support groups in their area" They are hate groups, not support groups. "and how they can easily attend...IF they want to." Yeah, "attending " is easy. Getting out is not.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #948)

Gay/Lesbian

Osteen: Gays Aren't "God's Best"

Who cares? There's not a THING wrong with having sexual attractions. It's called being HUMAN. And your pathetic lies that you have no sexual attractions at all aren't fooling anyone, of course you do and that's fine. It would be a crying shame if you didn't.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #945)

Gay/Lesbian

Osteen: Gays Aren't "God's Best"

Western1--"I don't have to. I knoe many people who left the gay life 20, 40 years ago" Lie. It is impossible. NOBODY leaves "the gay life." They are, as you are, still homosexual. The only thing they left is healthy sexuality for the pointless cruelty of believing there is something good about celebacy just because you're gay and bigots told you it was "wrong" to be gay. "and are living a rich, productive, joy filled life in Christ!" A blasphemous lie. There is NOTHING Christian about the hate groups promoting destructive lies about homosexuality. Plenty of openly gay people lead rich productive joy filled lives in Christ. You COULD have, but chose instead to live a destructive life spreading hate and lies and disgracing and shaming Christ. "Homosexualit y is just one aspect of their past." Lie. It is an aspect of their present. There is no such thing as a former homosexual. It is scientifically impossible. Human sexuality is a part of their past...and they don't benefit in the slightest as a result. "God continues to work and restore them in other areas because we're all strugglers until we go home." It is the work of human bigots, not God.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #944)

Gay/Lesbian

Conservative group says gay activists 'mull terrorism'

Expressing a "belief" which has been PROVEN wrong for decades is lying.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #302)

Gay/Lesbian

Conservative group says gay activists 'mull terrorism'

I said legitimate, this author obviously is not. Homosexuality is NOT mentioned in Leviticus, which outlines specific sex ACTS not sexual orientation. Tell me...do you follow all the "laws" of Leviticus?  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #301)

Gay/Lesbian

Paterson calls for session on budget, gay marriage

Cfoote--"I have no fear other than if one group decides to have a special degination" They are not asking for a special designation, just simple equality. "placed upon them from the government, who is the next? Pedophile." It remains a disgusting, bigoted, and invalid comparison. Homosexuals are no more like pedophiles than heterosexuals. "Ahh yes the slippery slope, but they can use the same argue under your gay case law, they would be discriminated against." Except yours is a pathetic lie. "What about relatives marrying? They are consenting adults, shall we designate them as a special group as well." A totally unrelated situation. You cannot come up with a legitimate reason to oppose equality, so you bring up irrelevent and unrelated straw men. "The whole gay arguement is on equality. Are you saying gays are more deserving of equality than the other two." You're making the comparison, and it's invalid. They're not related. Not relevent at all. There are, of course REASONS to oppose child molestation and relatives marrying, there are no legitimate reasons to oppose equality for gay people. They're not the same thing. "If you grant it to one you must grant it to all correct? " Of course not. "Fortunately we have people who are part of society that says all of these examples are wrong for a myraid of reasons." Homosexuality is not wrong, and is not in any way comparable. "but if you want to base it on Constitutional rights (and marriage is not a right)" Lie. It most certainly is. "Then are you willing to accept the responsibility that all other groups will cash in on your victory?" None of these groups are affected in the least by marriage equality for gay people. Just like the pathetic lies in the marriage equality opponents in Maine and California, who lied in saying this was about school curriculum, you're lying in saying this will have ANY affect on those other groups. It won't.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #72)

Gay/Lesbian

Unmarried partners benefits opposed: Petition challenges City C...

"Oh yeah, and when you have proof that 5000 military veterans died last year, can you please provide some proof? You know something from CNN/NBC/CBS/ABC/MS NBC or Fox? Maybe a link or something? You know something other than what someone says that you heard. Thanks" Upon looking for the article I misstated the numbers, it is in fact ONLY over 2000 per year--still a shocking and inexcusable number. And if you want links, CNN/NBC/CBS ect would be fine, NPR better...Fox is not. Fox is not a legitimate news source, it's a right wing propoganda machine. Anyway, here's the report, which sadly got very LITTLE play in the media, which has done a terrible job of reporting on health care and the reform discussion. http://www.google. com/hostednews/afp /article/ALeqM5iXS Ja5eFMuXF2Uxwptns_ JOxRcMA http://www.democra cynow.org/2009/11/ 11/study_over_2_20 0_us_veterans  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #52)

Gay/Lesbian

Unmarried partners benefits opposed: Petition challenges City C...

Not sure why this isn't posting properly, trying again... Obama bin Biden--"Would you prefer "homeless non willing to work" is that better?" No, because it's a bald-faced lie. Most are perfectly willing to work, and a great percentage of those "bums" are suffering from mental illness. A good number are also military veterans. "Good, I'm glad I made you FEEEEEEL better." Another person fighting for his "right" to be a hateful jerk. Live it up. God bless America. "If you want to give your money to someone that doesn't go ahead." This isn't about my money, it's about our society, which has plenty of resources that NOBODY should go without housing or food or medical care, yet thousands die every year without them, all because of the selfishness of hateful thugs like yourself. "It's called charity. Now when you force charity, it's not called charity anymore. It's called force." I've worked for a long time in non-profits, and the idea that charity can even come vaguely close to meeting the need in this nation is fantasy of the highest order. And NO it is NOT force to work cooperatively as a nation for the benefit of all, only the most selfish have to be "forced" to pay their fair share in taxes for their nation, most of us love our country and don't have to be "forced" to do what's right. That you do only speaks to your lack of morals. "I guess you aprreciate being forced to do something you don't want to." And I suppose you think we should have no taxes at all? No government? Good luck putting your house fire out. "Anyway, can you tell me where in the Constitution it says we the people need to pay for everyone else's health insurance?" It doesn't say we should, or shouldn't. But it's a far more humane and efficient way of meeting the need. Tell ME where it says insurance companies should be allowed to create millionaires while killing thousands with refusal of service? Health care is a basic human right, nobody should be denied it so HMOs can be profitable. "Your talking about socialism, and America is not socialist "yet". " No, I'm not talking about socialism, I'm talking about decency. I'm talking about democracy. You're talking about pure selfishness, up to and including killing for profit, and no amount of whitewash will make that trash "patriotism. " It isn't. It's just greed. And trust me, there is NOTHING about it in the constitution. The Constitution does NOT promise you the right to become obscenely wealthy while others starve. "You want to see what socialism does to a "quote un quote" FREE healthcare system that is payed for with everyones taxes?" We already have, nations with single payer systems are vastly better, more efficient, and healthier nations. "Ok, here you go: (it's funny how the state controlled media that you listen do doesn't mention this huh?)" The media I listen to isn't controlled by the state. (examples of individual problems caused NOT by single payer but by underfunding of NHS) Yeah, we can do it better, but instead we choose not to do it at all, and to just let thousands more die so HMOs can make a mint.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #51)