Mr E Profile

Soooo..... You have positively *NO PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC STUDY* to support the silly political nonsense you want so desperately to believe. Once again, you've disgraced yourself and your hate based cause (Aug 8, 2007 | post #968)

You try to sound scientific and it's pathetic. Stick with your buy-bull. Show me the scientific proof that the bible is truth! INCONCLUSIVELY! Statistical significance is a big thing in science. Your ignorance may flow through to genetics, so this may be adult speak onto childish ears, but I'll try: Kirk, K. M.; J. M. Bailey; M. P. Dunne; et al. 2000. Measurement models for sexual orientation in a community twin sample. Behavior Genetics. 30(4): 345-356. Abstract: "Multivariate structural equation modeling techniques have been applied to examine the causes of individual differences in responses to several items concerning sexual orientation. To minimize potential ascertainment and response biases, the study sample involved a large (N = 4901) community-based cohort of Australian twins aged 18–52 who answered an anonymous questionnaire on sexual behavior and attitudes. The statistical power of the analysis was increased by the availability of multiple measures of sexual orientation (behaviors, attitudes and feelings), providing stronger evidence for the existence of additive genetic influences on this phenotype than in a previous analysis (Bailey et al., 2000). Estimates of the heritability of homosexuality in this sample ranged between 50 and 60% in females but were significantly lower (heritability of approximately 30%) in males." From discussion: "Multivariate analysis of a number of distinct but related self-report measures of sexual orientation using independent and common pathway models has provided statistically significant support for the existence of significant genetic contributions to the trait of homosexuality. " Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance explain in their article April 21, 2007 article "Homosexualit y and Bisexuality: Is Homosexuality Genetically Determined?" (available on their website): "Religious conservatives often point to studies of identical twins who were separated at birth and raised independently. If one is gay, then the other twin is found to be gay only about 55% of the time. They reason that: since identical twins have the same genetic structure, then if homosexual orientation were determined by genes, 100% of the other twins would be gay... [This is] based upon a faulty or inadequate knowledge of the detailed workings of genetics. Genes have a property called penetrance, which is a measure of their effectiveness, or power...The penetrance of the gene which causes Type 1 (early onset) diabetes is only 30%. So, if one identical twin has the allele that causes diabetes, then the other twin will have the same allele. Both will have a 30% chance of developing the disorder. Both twins will have the same genetic structure. But it may or may not be triggered by something in the environment, and cause diabetes. If one identical twin develops schizophrenia, the other twin has about a 48% chance of also developing the disorder. If one twin develops bipolar affective disorder, (formerly called manic depression) the other twin's chances are about 60% of having it as well... We do not wish to imply that homosexuality is a disease. We are merely suggesting that the root cause of many diseases - and traits like left-handedness - are genetic. Most human sexuality researchers who are not religious conservatives regard homosexual orientation as a trait like left-handedness. " http://www.borngay procon.org/BiosOrg /RTO.htm (Aug 8, 2007 | post #1186)

As horrible as your story is, and I'm very sad that this is something you have experienced, I fail to see the relevancy. Your 'denial' comment was directed at me. Are you suggesting that i'm in denial? So just because I'm gay, I can't POSSIBLY have a happy life, therefore i'm in denial of some tragedy in my younger years(that made me gay?) if i claim to be happy and well adjusted (Aug 8, 2007 | post #1181)

Obviously you're not left-handed if you make that statement (Aug 8, 2007 | post #961)

Kirk, K. M.; J. M. Bailey; M. P. Dunne; et al. 2000. Measurement models for sexual orientation in a community twin sample. Behavior Genetics. 30(4): 345-356. Abstract" "Multivariate structural equation modeling techniques have been applied to examine the causes of individual differences in responses to several items concerning sexual orientation. To minimize potential ascertainment and response biases, the study sample involved a large (N = 4901) community-based cohort of Australian twins aged 18–52 who answered an anonymous questionnaire on sexual behavior and attitudes. The statistical power of the analysis was increased by the availability of multiple measures of sexual orientation (behaviors, attitudes and feelings), providing stronger evidence for the existence of additive genetic influences on this phenotype than in a previous analysis (Bailey et al., 2000). Estimates of the heritability of homosexuality in this sample ranged between 50 and 60% in females but were significantly lower (heritability of approximately 30%) in males." From discussion: "Multivariate analysis of a number of distinct but related self-report measures of sexual orientation using independent and common pathway models has provided statistically significant support for the existence of significant genetic contributions to the trait of homosexuality. " Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance explain in their April 21, 2007 article "Homosexualit y and Bisexuality: Is Homosexuality Genetically Determined?" (available on their website): "Religious conservatives often point to studies of identical twins who were separated at birth and raised independently. If one is gay, then the other twin is found to be gay only about 55% of the time. They reason that: since identical twins have the same genetic structure, then if homosexual orientation were determined by genes, 100% of the other twins would be gay... [This is] based upon a faulty or inadequate knowledge of the detailed workings of genetics. Genes have a property called penetrance, which is a measure of their effectiveness, or power... The penetrance of the gene which causes Type 1 (early onset) diabetes is only 30%. So, if one identical twin has the allele that causes diabetes, then the other twin will have the same allele. Both will have a 30% chance of developing the disorder. Both twins will have the same genetic structure. But it may or may not be triggered by something in the environment, and cause diabetes. If one identical twin develops schizophrenia, the other twin has about a 48% chance of also developing the disorder. If one twin develops bipolar affective disorder, (formerly called manic depression) the other twin's chances are about 60% of having it as well... We do not wish to imply that homosexuality is a disease. We are merely suggesting that the root cause of many diseases - and traits like left-handedness - are genetic. Most human sexuality researchers who are not religious conservatives regard homosexual orientation as a trait like left-handedness. " 4/21/2007 Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance http://www.borngay procon.org/ (Aug 8, 2007 | post #960)

Anthony F. Bogaert, Biological versus nonbiological older brothers and men’s sexual orientation http://www.pnas.or g/cgi/content/abst ract/103/28/10771? maxtoshow=&HIT S=10&hits=10 &RESULTFORMAT= &fulltext=homo sexuality&sear chid=1&FIRSTIN DEX=0&resource type=HWCIT "The most consistent biodemographic correlate of sexual orientation in men is the number of older brothers (fraternal birth order). The mechanism underlying this effect remains unknown. In this article, I provide a direct test pitting prenatal against postnatal (e.g., social/rearing) mechanisms. Four samples of homosexual and heterosexual men (total n = 944), including one sample of men raised in nonbiological and blended families (e.g., raised with half- or step-siblings or as adoptees) were studied. Only biological older brothers, and not any other sibling characteristic, including nonbiological older brothers, predicted men’s sexual orientation, regardless of the amount of time reared with these siblings. These results strongly suggest a prenatal origin to the fraternal birth-order effect." (Aug 8, 2007 | post #953)

Kirk, K. M.; J. M. Bailey; M. P. Dunne; et al. 2000. Measurement models for sexual orientation in a community twin sample. Behavior Genetics. 30(4): 345-356. Abstract: "Multivariate structural equation modeling techniques have been applied to examine the causes of individual differences in responses to several items concerning sexual orientation. To minimize potential ascertainment and response biases, the study sample involved a large (N = 4901) community-based cohort of Australian twins aged 18–52 who answered an anonymous questionnaire on sexual behavior and attitudes. The statistical power of the analysis was increased by the availability of multiple measures of sexual orientation (behaviors, attitudes and feelings), providing stronger evidence for the existence of additive genetic influences on this phenotype than in a previous analysis (Bailey et al., 2000). Estimates of the heritability of homosexuality in this sample ranged between 50 and 60% in females but were significantly lower (heritability of approximately 30%) in males. From discussion: "Multivariate analysis of a number of distinct but related self-report measures of sexual orientation using independent and common pathway models has provided statistically significant support for the existence of significant genetic contributions to the trait of homosexuality. " Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance explain in their April 21, 2007 article "Homosexualit y and Bisexuality: Is Homosexuality Genetically Determined?" (available on their website): "Religious conservatives often point to studies of identical twins who were separated at birth and raised independently. If one is gay, then the other twin is found to be gay only about 55% of the time. They reason that: since identical twins have the same genetic structure, then if homosexual orientation were determined by genes, 100% of the other twins would be gay... [This is] based upon a faulty or inadequate knowledge of the detailed workings of genetics. Genes have a property called penetrance, which is a measure of their effectiveness, or power... The penetrance of the gene which causes Type 1 (early onset) diabetes is only 30%. So, if one identical twin has the allele that causes diabetes, then the other twin will have the same allele. Both will have a 30% chance of developing the disorder. Both twins will have the same genetic structure. But it may or may not be triggered by something in the environment, and cause diabetes. If one identical twin develops schizophrenia, the other twin has about a 48% chance of also developing the disorder. If one twin develops bipolar affective disorder, (formerly called manic depression) the other twin's chances are about 60% of having it as well... We do not wish to imply that homosexuality is a disease. We are merely suggesting that the root cause of many diseases - and traits like left-handedness - are genetic. Most human sexuality researchers who are not religious conservatives regard homosexual orientation as a trait like left-handedness. " 4/21/2007 Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance http://www.borngay procon.org/ (Aug 8, 2007 | post #951)

GLBT Leaders Proclaim "Now is the Time" for Transgender E...

Now is the time? Yesterday was the time. Now it's past due. What's sad is I doubt the GLBT 'leaders' realize how much discrimination against Transgendered and genderqueer folk occurs WITHIN the gay community. Do our 'leaders' even realize that the gay community would be nowhere if it weren't for them? (Aug 8, 2007 | post #6)

Dear anti-gay people,

Does your wife orgasm, that is (Aug 8, 2007 | post #38)

Dear anti-gay people,

Interesting, so you discussed it prior to marriage huh? So was that to keep her a virgin? But you allude to premarital sex. You HEATHEN! I guess you're gonna join us in hell. Trust me, you'll have a lot more fun! So does your wife every time you screw her? That is the test of satisfaction. I wonder how many times she's faked it (Aug 8, 2007 | post #36)

Dear anti-gay people,

Thank god you're normal, because normal is just SOOOO boring. When has anyone normal made history? Made a difference? I am different. I am NOT normal. And IF my life were a choice, I would make it every time! It is the fringe that pushes human thought and biological evolution. It's time for (r)evolution (Aug 8, 2007 | post #26)

Huh? Obviously you have never seen Silence of the Lambs. It's an excellent reference to who most here believe wil is (Aug 7, 2007 | post #1164)

You are not discussing here. You are making judgments and HUGE generalizations based on the disturbed population you come into contact thru your work. And a dozen cases is STILL not representative of the greater population. And I am offended when you come on here spew gross misinformation about a community I am a part of, cherish and hold dear to my heart (Aug 7, 2007 | post #1163)

This sounds more like it (Aug 6, 2007 | post #1137)