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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Or basic counting for that matter.  (Thursday | post #15901)

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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Frankie, is three greater than, less than, or equal to two? Truly, you are dumber than a rock, Frankie. Stop advancing these ridiculous and irrelevant arguments.  (Thursday | post #15898)

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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

You are a nut caseYou can pretend to hold to a differing definition, but that will have no impact upon the prevailing legal definition of marriage. No one is seeking to infringe upon your vivid fantasy lifeThe government makes the laws, including any legal definitions. That is not a matter left up to individual interpretation, and the government enforcing the law does not inherently infringe upon your rightsYou have regularly made just that claimI believe you are mentally illNo, you are arguing for private citizens to illegally discriminate against those holding differing beliefs through their businesses. In so doing, you are also arguing that the government somehow does not have the responsibility to enforce the law. Your opinion is as wrong as it is lacking in sanityRespect, would I have assaulted you if my fist impacted your nose while I was expressing myself by flailing my arms in the air?  (Thursday | post #15897)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Frankie, why can't you ever stay on topic? Polygamy is neither relevant, nor will it come to pass. Just look at the recent win in Utah. It didn't legalize polygamy, nor did it seek to do so, it merely decriminalized cohabitation. Grow up, stupid person. Stop returning to this irrelevant drivel. This is due in part to that fact that no one is seeking to legalize it, and partly for reasons that have been explained to you ad nauseum, but that you are clearly still too stupid to understand.  (Thursday | post #15895)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

You also don't write coherent english sentences. If you agree with the findings of fact of the court, and the baker concedes that they are all true, then you agree that the baker did break the law. This isn't rocket science kiddoNo, I insult and marginalize people who make idiotic and untrue statements, or agree to the findings of fact, but claim that they are not actually facts. The findings of fact report that the baker did deny the couple service, and did so because they were marrying someone of the same sex. Doing so is a violation of the law of the state of Colorado, and the court was not biased in applying the law. I don't call you an idiot because you hold a differing opinion. I call you an idiot because you stupidly hold an opinion with no basis in fact, because you claim to support the findings of fact in the trial which fully illustrate that your position is false, and because you are in point of fact an idiotSorry, kiddo, the truth is an absolute defense against defamation. I am in no way afraid of liberty, you are, which is why you advocate for illegal discrimination against those who believe differently than you do. You see, stupid person, real liberty requires the tolerance of reasonable dissent. You clearly are not tolerant of differing viewsI ahve never said that, in fact it is your position. When a person opens a place of public accommodation, they must follow the law. In Colorado, that means they cannot deny service on the basis of sexual orientation. If your bigotry is more important to you than a business where you might have to accommodate same sex couples, then don't open a public businessNo, you don't. You continue to support illegal discrimination against anyone whose views diverge from your own. Truly, you are a bald faced liar.  (Thursday | post #15894)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Would that this were soYou are stupid, and once again, would that this were so. Frankie, if you would simply act civilly, you wouldn't be blocked. That you can't offer an intelligent argument is a separate issue.  (Thursday | post #15716)

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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

I am not demeaning another American, I am speaking truth. You are an idiot. The truth is an absolute defense against defamation. The baker, on the other hand, is demeaning another American, as well as breaking the law.  (Thursday | post #15714)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

If they elect to open a place of public accommodation, they lose the right to discriminate. Which is to say a public business doesn't have the right to air their private assholic views through their business. This isn't a difficult concept, in fact most kindergarten students could come to grips with it. It is called being civilWhat, one wonders, were you attempting to sayI'm not. He doesn't have to support gay marriage, but he cannot deny service because someone else doesI'm not. Why are you afraid of not being an a$$h*le in public?  (Thursday | post #15711)

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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

The facts are these: " as Masterpiece Cakeshop, Inc. Phillips and Masterpiece Cakeshop are collectively referred to herein as Respondents. 2. Masterpiece Cakeshop is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of § 24-34-601(1), C.R.S. 3. Among other baked products, Respondents create and sell wedding cakes. 4. On July 19, 2012, Complainants Charlie Craig and David Mullins entered Masterpiece Cakeshop in the company of Mr. Craig’s mother, Deborah Munn. 5. Complainants sat down with Phillips at the cake consulting table. They introduced themselves as “David” and “Charlie” and said that they wanted a wedding cake for “our wedding.” 6. Phillips informed Complainants that he does not create wedding cakes for same-sex weddings. Phillips told the men, “I’ll make you birthday cakes, shower cakes, sell you cookies and brownies, I just don’t make cakes for same-sex weddings.” 7. Complainants immediately got up and left the store without further discussion with Phillips. 8. The whole conversation between Phillips and Complainants was very brief, with no discussion between the parties about what the cake would look like. 9. The next day, Ms. Munn called Masterpiece Cakeshop and spoke with Phillips. Phillips advised Ms. Munn that he does not create wedding cakes for samesex weddings because of his religious beliefs, and because Colorado does not recognize same-sex marriages." Do you dispute any of these facts? Did Jack deny service because of who was being married? The fact of the matter is that you don't give a crap about facts, you only care about your bigoted opinion. This is why you are utterly incapable of articulating how Jack's right to free exercise would be infringe by providing the cake in question. Well, that and because you are an imbecile.  (Thursday | post #15707)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

You keep making this distinction as though it were relevant. it isn't. They requested a cake, and the baker denied service because of who they were marrying. Period. End of story. In so doing, he broke the law of the state of Colorado. A cake is a baked confection. Is is not an affirmation of the event it was baked at which to be consumed. It is not an endorsement of marriage. Do you realize how stupid you sound when you advance these infantile notions?  (Thursday | post #15700)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

It also doesn't change the fact that you are an idiot, and that you ignore the facts of the case. The facts of the case are that the baker admitted to breaking the law in court, which is why he lost, and lost upon appeal. Nothing that you have said negates this fact.  (Thursday | post #15697)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Frankie, duh is not an answer, it is a reaffirmation that you are too dim witted to provide a valid answer. Would you care to attempt to join the adults, and try to answer, by offering how you think providing a service through one's business to someone holding differing religious views infringes upon the free exercise of religion of the proprietor?  (Thursday | post #15687)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Why, section 1, of course, which allows the states to make laws, but requires they be equally applicable to all people. Why are you intent upon undermining yourself? Are you just out to prove that you are ignorant?  (Thursday | post #15683)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Here's a clue, stupid person, it's still a cake. It isn't endorsement of a marriage, it isn't support of a marriage, it's a baked good. You are nuttier than squirrel leavings if you claim to the contrary.  (Thursday | post #15680)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

No, it's baking a cakeWhich is when he broke the law, idiotNo, I marginalize and demean you because you are an idiot.  (Thursday | post #15677)

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