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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

You do realize that is a half dozen cakes worth of profit that he has turned away, right? Truly, Wondering, you are dumber than a rockYou are an idiot, Wondering. Why don't you attempt to grow a valid or relevant argument? In the alternative, you could repeat elementary school so you have a better shot at understanding what has been said here.  (8 min ago | post #9356)

Gay/Lesbian

Next gay marriage fight: religious exemptions

I have. It is you who lack the mental capacity to even so much as attempt to offer a rebuttal. Congratulations, Wondering, you have reduced yourself to irrelevant lies.  (10 min ago | post #7508)

Gay/Lesbian

Baker faces complaint for refusing anti-gay message on cake

Wondering, it is not my fault or my problem that you lack basic reading comprehension, and the ability to offer a factually supported rebuttal. Your claims that no argument has been made are simply bald faced lies. Congratulations, you have reduced yourself to childish pouting.  (12 min ago | post #53)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

You do realize that the baker damaged his own chance at prosperity by denying service, right? The constitution also leaves room for free thought, even if one does act not in accord with one's own interests. There is nothing in the constitution that prevents one from behaving like an imbecile.  (1 hr ago | post #9354)

Gay/Lesbian

Next gay marriage fight: religious exemptions

It has been offered time and time again. Your rebuttal is what is absent. http://www.topix.c om/forum/news/gay/ TJD0KBH5KH6N07T9P/ post7498 http://www.topix.c om/forum/news/gay/ TJD0KBH5KH6N07T9P/ post7495 http://www.topix.c om/forum/news/gay/ TJD0KBH5KH6N07T9P/ post7493 http://www.topix.c om/forum/news/gay/ TJD0KBH5KH6N07T9P/ post7490 Your juvenile tactics are tiresome, Wondering.  (1 hr ago | post #7506)

Gay/Lesbian

Baker faces complaint for refusing anti-gay message on cake

Read my last several posts, stupid person, your question has been answered a number of times. http://www.topix.c om/forum/news/gay/ TF0TTDL49QU1E9EC1/ post49 http://www.topix.c om/forum/news/gay/ TF0TTDL49QU1E9EC1/ post43 http://www.topix.c om/forum/news/gay/ TF0TTDL49QU1E9EC1/ post41 http://www.topix.c om/forum/news/gay/ TF0TTDL49QU1E9EC1/ post38 http://www.topix.c om/forum/news/gay/ TF0TTDL49QU1E9EC1/ post33 Feel free to offer a rebuttal, rather than your regular childish claim that no argument has been advanced, which merely makes you look to weak minded to offer a response.  (1 hr ago | post #51)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

He denied service, which is not doing nothingThe baker, who inflicted injury upon himself by denying service and losing potential profitKiddo, his religious beliefs never gave him leave to break the lawBecause I support the rule of lawOf course it is, and you have yet to illustrate that providing the cake for a same sex couple would infringe upon any of the baker's liberties.  (1 hr ago | post #9353)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

You keep repeating this claim, but the repetition is hollow, because you lack the ability to substantiate it with facts. The reality remains that if Americans feel that same sex marriage is wrong, they have the right not to enter into such a union. They have no right to deny service to those who decide to enter into such a union, and providing that service in no way unfairly burdens any of the business owner's freedomsNo, it isn't. Business owners forcing clients to comply with the religious beliefs, and not just the beliefs but also the interpretation of those beliefs, of the business owner is unconstitutional infringement of free exercise of the would be customer. The religious beliefs of the owners, or the clients for that matter, are utterly irrelevant to the business transactions in question.  (1 hr ago | post #9352)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

If they are denying service at a place of public accommodation because a customer's religious beliefs differ from their own, they are hateful bigotsno, the state put in place an injunction to prevent a man form breaking the law by denying service on the basis of sexual orientationIt isn't an issue. The only violation is when the baker asserts that his religious beliefs give him the right to break the law. They do not. The state neither endorsed, not infringed upon anyone's religious freedom.  (17 hrs ago | post #9326)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

No, Respect, you don't get it. Christian business owners who seek to project their faith onto their customers, by making customers meet with the owner's religious moral approval in order to obtain service are not exercising freedom of religion, they are actually infringing upon it.  (17 hrs ago | post #9324)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Respect, in what way do you think I am ignorant? So far, I am more aware of the law and court rulings than you are. Just because I realize reality is not a reflection of your opinions doesn't somehow magically make me ignorant. I do favor equal protection under the law, not just for gay people, but for everyone. What is what the US Constitution requires. That you wish that such equal protection did not apply to those who dislike is your own problem, and it is an unconstitutional position.  (17 hrs ago | post #9320)

Gay/Lesbian

Baker faces complaint for refusing anti-gay message on cake

Wondering, this also has been answered for you in terms that a child could understand. The two cases are in no way related. In Mullins v Masterpiece Cake Shop, Inc, the clients were denied a service the baker did provide on the basis of their sexual orientation. In this case, the client was pushy and unruly, and requested a patently offensive message, which the baker is in no way obligated to provide. She did offer other options to allow the client to have the cake they wanted in the end, but instead the client decided to sue her. The client in this case will lose in court, and were you not such a child, you would realize that the judge in Mullins addressed just such an issue in the existing ruling. Truly, you are dumber than a rock.  (17 hrs ago | post #49)

Gay/Lesbian

Next gay marriage fight: religious exemptions

Wondering, that you are too stupid to understand a rebut even a reasonable argument is none of my concern. It has already been explained to you in terms simple enough for a child to understand that religious exemptions will not come to pass, because anti-discriminatio n laws do not infringe upon religious freedom, which is to say exemptions are unwarranted. You could attempt to offer a factually supported rebuttal, or you could continue acting like an unruly child claiming that no argument has been offered form my end, even though even a cursory analysis of recent posts will prove that claim to be false.  (17 hrs ago | post #7498)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

You have yet to offer proof that they in any way infringe upon religious freedomThe baker, illegally denied service. They don't even deny that fact.  (20 hrs ago | post #9308)

Gay/Lesbian

Next gay marriage fight: religious exemptions

I have said much, it is you who can't offer a rational rebuttal, stupid person. Religious exemptions will not come to pass because no one's religious freedom is being impeded, and even if they were to pass they would be overturned as unconstitutional. Do you have a response, or are you still an idiot?  (21 hrs ago | post #7495)

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