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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Did the state issue an order that he must cease the practice of making wedding cakes? If not, then the decision to do so was of his own volition. The state did order him to offer equal services to all who sought them. Clearly, to the baker, providing a cake for a same sex wedding was too much to bear. If he weren't an idiot, he would realize that this decision is injurious to his business and personal finances, and that in reality providing such a service offends nothing more than his sensibilities. none of his rights, constitutional or otherwise, are infringed by providing such a service. Only a half-wit would claim to the contrary.  (5 hrs ago | post #6009)

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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Actually, the government requires him to provide the same services to anyone who would seek them. He found it unacceptable to provide services for same sex weddings, so he elected to stop providing wedding cakes. You can spin it with whatever childish rhetoric you care to, but the reality remains that he made the choice. Stating to the contrary is simply a lieMy stance on Ferguson is irrelevant to the topic. I refuse to indulge in your obfuscation.  (7 hrs ago | post #5994)

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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Of course, the act of opening a place of public accommodation, like a bakery 42 U.S. Code 12181 (7) (E), which is a place of public accommodation, one sets aside their right to be left alone in order to instead offer a service in order to generate a profit. Just how dumb are you, Alan?  (Yesterday | post #5885)

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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Alan, privately owned business that provide goods and services to the public are classified as place of public accommodation. Only an extremely unintelligent person would be incapable of understanding that simple fact. Here's some clarification that will help alleviate your ignorance. http://www.law.cor nell.edu/uscode/te xt/42/12181And yet I cannot legally deny you service just because I disapprove of your lack of intelligenceOf course, what you or I would do is not at issue. The baker unquestionably did deny service, and they did so illegally. They admittedly broke the law in the state of Colorado, and they stipulated to (look it up) that fact in courtOddly enough, you are the one defending the Russian way where it is perfectly acceptable to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. Perhaps, you should think things through a bit further before your offer an insult that so clearly can be turned against you? Once again, Alan, you aren't making yourself look terribly bright.  (Yesterday | post #5884)

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Next gay marriage fight: religious exemptions

Still haven't learned what that word means, have youActually, that is not so. 31 States and the district of Columbia, a majority of the USA, holds a different definition, stupid personPietro, if it isn't a requirement of every marriage, then it can't be a valid metric to exclude same sex couples, can it? Back on the topic at hand, religious exemptions would only be warranted if allowing gay marriage adversely impacted the religious freedoms of those who would not enter into such a union. Simply put, it doesn't, ergo such exemptions are completely unwarranted.  (Yesterday | post #5908)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Well, let's see, a bakery typically makes confections, including, but not limited to, cakesBaking cakesAgreement would require a meeting of the minds, which requires that both parties are so equippedJerry, you have once again responded without answering, which tends to reinforce the notion that you are incapable of offering a valid answer.  (Yesterday | post #5878)

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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

The trouble is that they entered a place of public accommodation, and were denied service. Should I be able to deny you, or Jerry, service just because I am religiously opposed to idiocy? The fact of the matter is that I would not deny you, or Jerry, service, regardless of how stupid you may be, because I understand that a business is an economic engine for the production of profit, not an instrument to project one's religious beliefs onto one's customers. Someday, you just might advance an argument that doesn't make you look like a fool. You haven't yet.  (Yesterday | post #5874)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

The question is in accordance with the facts. How would providing the service in any way infringe upon the baker's freedom? You don't answer, because you know you have no valid answer, and that providing such a service in no way infringes upon any of the baker's rights.  (Yesterday | post #5868)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Actually, in refusing to provide service because he objected to the wedding he, A) denied service, B) projected his religious moral views onto others by making them a prerequisite to obtain service, C) broke the law, and D) arguably infringed upon the free exercise of the would be customers. Tell me, just how would providing the service in question infringe upon the baker's religious freedom? Be specific.  (Yesterday | post #5860)

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Bill Would Let Michigan Doctors, EMTs Refuse To Treat Gay...

He has before, he didn't on this occasion, which was in violation of the law. Would you care to further illustrate your idiocy?  (Yesterday | post #169)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

He choose that solution. Had he not, he would have been liable to legal sanctions for having broke the law. This isn't difficult to understand, it is like following the speed limit, and if one fails to do so, getting a ticket. He basically got let off with a warning. Were you not so obtuse, you would understand that breaking the law has consequencesUhm... the law specifically applies because of the baker's bias, and applying it requires no bias of the ALJ, only a mentally deficient person would claim to the contrary. You seriously have a problemCan you remotely illustrate that Ferguson is relevant to the topic at hand, or are you de facto admitting that you are a troll?  (Yesterday | post #5845)

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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Alan is suffering from the delusion that baking a cake is a violation of the baker's religious freedom, a stance that is thoroughly risible. Alan is a troll of the first order, often times arguing both side of the issue.  (Sunday Dec 14 | post #5336)

Gay/Lesbian

Gay marriage ruling appealed to La. Supreme Court

It seems someone is a little paranoid. Could it be that you are posting content that the administrators find to be offensive? You regularly post content denouncing equal rightsThe only lying gay trolls here are you and Alan. Frankie might come along in a bit, then you can all go form a gay troll polygamous marriage, which Frankie seems to think exists and is legal.  (Sunday Dec 14 | post #21)

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Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

It's so cute when you decide to carry on a monologue with the entire thread, Alan. It really make s you look somewhat unhinged.  (Sunday Dec 14 | post #5320)

Gay/Lesbian

Colo. gay discrimination alleged over wedding cake

Every time you post. Face it, Wondering. The baker's rights would have been in no way impacted had he provided the service in question, and in point of fact he would have made a profit. It is funny when you descend so far into your trolling that you fail to so much as attempt to address the topic at hand. Congratulations, you are not smarter than a fifth grader.  (Sunday Dec 14 | post #5309)

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