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Based on comments posted on the I'net, most people don't know much of anything about the US gov't. Including how our electoral system works. They seem to think representatives are supposed to support anything the president proposes. And, to oppose him is anti-American. That applies to both parties.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #312)

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What are you attempting to prove, if anything? The US entered into a peace treaty with the King of Engand. The King of England was also the head of the Church of England. That treaty began: The Definitive Treaty of Peace 1783 "In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity. It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch-treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America. . ." Based on your claims, it would appear that the US officially designated the King of England as the "most serene & most potent (King) defender of the faith" . . . That is diplomatic speak and is MEANINGLESS!!!! (or pro forma) Regardless how much you want to extrapolate some other meaning to those words of formality, they mean absolutely nothing. Please cite the section or amendment of the US Constitution that designates the official US deity. Please refrain from using straw men to avoid the issue at hand. Where in the US Constitution can the designation of the official US deity be found?  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #311)

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According to the website, the average score was 77%. Since other people may want to take the test, I'll limit my remarks about the test but Question 33 had nothing to do with gov't or the constitution. It was a logic question that I consider poorly worded. But, I only feel that way because I got it wrong. :-) Everyone should take it because it is a good test of a person's overall knowledge of our government.  (Thursday Nov 12 | post #310)

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No, I have never read either.  (Wednesday Nov 11 | post #306)

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I got 90.91% correct (30 of 33) I missed 7, 29 & 33. Very interesting test. I should have studied. Do I get a prize? :-) Warning to those who take the test, it asks about all kinds of stuff unrelated to the Constitution.  (Wednesday Nov 11 | post #305)

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My mistake in my previous comment. I was thinking of Edward Wightman, executed for heresy in 1612 by King James. He was the last Englishman to be executed for heresy. Catholics executed Cayetano Ripoll in 1826 for teaching Deist principles. He was the last victim of the Spanish Inquisition. Deism is denying the Trinity. He appears to be the last person executed for heresy by the Catholic church.  (Wednesday Nov 11 | post #303)

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I never said any such thing. I said acknowledging the Trinity BECAME a pro forma statement as a RESULT of people having been put to death for denying the Trinity, a heresy. The last person put to death for heresy was long before the US came into existence. But, old habits die hard and the acknowledgement of the Trinity was an old habit. It was a meaningless inclusion and was a pro forma statement. It had no effect on anything. So far as I know, no one today includes acknowledging the Trinity as part of any official language other than the Catholic church. And, I do not know whether they include it or not. I assume they do since it is the foundation for their gibberish. In no case did I say anyone had been put to death for refusing or failing to call the president "Mr. President." I have no idea what point you are attempting to make, if any.  (Wednesday Nov 11 | post #302)

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T. Jefferson's Bible: "The Jefferson Bible, or The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth as it is formally titled, was Thomas Jefferson's effort to extract the doctrine of Jesus by removing sections of the New Testament containing supernatural aspects as well as perceived misinterpretations he believed had been added by the Four Evangelists.[1][2] " Source: http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/Jeffers on_Bible If you want to argue the Wiki source, use Google and find your own. There are 524,000 Google references to the Jefferson Bible. T. Jefferson wrote his own version of the bible without the "magic." Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Your comments make little or no sense & you appear to be randomly making stuff up just to argue some non-existent point. Have you ever read a bible or the US Constitution?  (Wednesday Nov 11 | post #301)

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You appear to be arguing for argument's sake. If you are unfamiliar with heresy and penalties for same, nothing I can post will be to your benefit. You must have missed those history lessons that referred to the Spanish Inquisitions. People were burned at the stake for heresy. Denying the Trinity is heresy.  (Wednesday Nov 11 | post #300)

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I said people were executed for denying the Trinity. People in that context means subjects of their respective "nations " or territories. Diplomats are not subject to other nation's laws when they are on official business. The Council of Nicaea in 325 CE established the Trinity as official Catholic doctrine. Anyone who was subject to Roman Catholic rule who denied the Trinity was subject to penalties, including death. It is called heresy and denying the Trinity is considered heresy to this day by the Catholic church and so far as I know, the Church of England. The inclusion of the Trinity in a treaty was a pro forma statement that did not establish law and was meaningless for any practical purpose. Same as all other pro forma statements. If you are unfamiliar with heresy and the penalties for same, there is nothing that I can offer you that would convince you of whatever it is you are trying to disprove.  (Wednesday Nov 11 | post #299)

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It is really depressing when these ignorant people bring to our attention how ineffective our public schools are. I cannot count the number of people with whom I've spoken who seriously believe the founding fathers had the bible in one hand while they wrote the Constitution with the other. T. Jefferson wrote his own bible and omitted all the "magic". Which shows his disdain for the bible as written. In no case is our nation founded on Hebrew fairy tales.  (Wednesday Nov 11 | post #290)

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People are not usually arrested for failing to engage in formalities. Diplomats are immune from arrest while engaging in their official duties. No one is arrested for refusing to call the president "Mr. President." A formality is not usually a criminal offense unless a person is in Zimbabwe or some third world dictatorship. Are you unfamiliar with the fact that Christianity was & is the state religion of England? And, of the Colonies until they won their indepedence? You do not seem to understand that the western world became Christian at the point of a sword. People had no choice. They either became Trinitarian Christians or they were executed. Nor do you seem to understand the word formality.  (Wednesday Nov 11 | post #289)

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England REQUIRED everyone to be a Trinitarian Christian as a matter of law. It would be surprising if people who were required to be Trinitarian Christians did not refer to the God invented by the Catholic church and adopted by the Church of England in their public pronouncements. The Constitution is based on Sumerian, Babylonian, Greek, Roman & English evolved laws. We can trace our legal & political system all the way back to the Sumerians. It has no relation whatsoever to Hebrew fairy tales. The Greeks invented democracy long before anyone ever heard of Moses or any of the other fictional Bible characers. Your claims the Constitution is based on the Bible or religion have no foundation whatsoever.  (Wednesday Nov 11 | post #284)

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Referring to the Trinity had nothing to do with the legal system, it was a custom that had been adopted over time. The invocation of a deity became a custom long before the US was established as a nation. And, continues to this day. But, it is just a formality with no other significance. They were not codifying the Trinity into law, they were repeating a custom that had been codified into law by the Catholic church & continued by the Church of England. Both of which condemned denying the Trinity as a death penalty offense (heresy).  (Tuesday Nov 10 | post #275)

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It is a historical fact that the Iranian people overthrew a US installed dictator in 1979. The Shah of Iran was far more brutal than Saddam Hussein. The overthrow of the Shah had nothing to do with religion and it was not a declaration of war against the US by anyone, Muslims or otherwise. It was a revolt against a brutal dictator. Our I'net Rambo continues to insist that revolution is his sole justification for his overwhelming desire to murder Muslims. He is an idiot. Period.  (Tuesday Nov 10 | post #273)