400 Years Of Oppression Always Angers Me
Ok. Even though we disagree, we're almost there..."the fear that has been placed in us" part bothers me. I, as an individual have absolutely no fear of striving. In fact, one could argue that I strive TOO much to get what I want. I'm a driven guy. To widen the scope some - Black people, as a PEOPLE don't share the same drive, the same goals, or the same potentials. Saying that "none of us are there until all of us are there" is nuts...because some people will NEVER get there - mostly because they don't want to (and because they have a twisted notion of what "THERE" is). Being "scared" is even less of an excuse. Historically, I think the time of opportunity for Black Unity has passed. Unity isn't even working for White folks anymore. Globalization demands THE BEST. More work, cheaper, faster... America can't seem to muster itself against China, Japan, and India. This is not an oppressive White folks world anymore man. Sure, it's there, but it's secondary to profit and growth. If you can get all Black folks to go to school, get educated, invest appropriately, compete ruthlessly, innovate, etc...White folks will ring your phone off the hook trying to find out how you did that with a whole race of people. Because they haven't done it either. It's all about the "bright spots". Some people will excel beyond others. And those people should not be held back in the name of unity. (Friday Aug 15 | post #69)
400 Years Of Oppression Always Angers Me
As I said, WLC - you are an eternal optimist, and I think that is a good trait. For my side of it: I am not saying Black unity is impossible...very few things are. HOWEVER - ask yourself WHY it has never materialized? And be VERY careful here...because I don't want to hear excuses about White people having their foot on Black people's necks. (And YES - I acknowledge that they historically HAVE, and it was done ON purpose and WITH the purpose of fostering long-term White dominance) - but we're not going to talk about that because the world is what it is - and the rules of the game are that you must overcome acknowledged adversity. So...WHY is it that Black people are not unified? What flaw is it - in BLACK PEOPLE - that makes them unable to do this? Forget whitey. What is it, in YOUR opinion, that Black folks need to be doing? WHY aren't they doing it? and, most importantly why SHOULD they do it? My point is you have to start with were we are NOW. What happened 400 years ago is now only of value in terms of CONTRAST. You know discrimination exists. And racism, and prejudice, and stereotype, and all those ugly things. But how do you counter them? "The best revenge is living well" (Friday Aug 15 | post #43)
Negroes Killing White College Girls
Harold, you guys can have ALL the snakes. And the woods. (Friday Aug 15 | post #170)
Negroes Killing White College Girls
You are right, there are a-holes on both sides. My post was reactionary, and having read it again, I'm not satisfied with it. Primarily, I want to make it clear that I'm not unilaterally blaming White people. The subtext of all of my posts on this topic is this: White crime does not STICK to White people as a whole, whereas Black crime does "stick" to Black people as a whole. This topic is (supposedly) about some Black dude(s) killing some White college girls. Most of our esteemed White posters leapt on this unfortunate incident as a wholesale condemnation of Black men everywhere. We're "dangerous " to White college girls. But what of Ted Bundy and his rampage against Chi Omegas in Florida? This incident doesn't "STICK" to White males. Ask yourself WHY. White violence is not rare. And when it happens, DOZENS of people die - we're not talking about a Black dude shooting someone over drugs. We are talking about FEDERAL BUILDINGS being destroyed - innocent people being maimed by mail bombs. Wholesale slaughter in high schools. I've already listed several other White male killers - killers that fit a VERY specific template. My point is - it doesn't STICK. I KNOW there are enough a-holes to go around. I am not blaming White people for massive crime. I am saying when they do commit it - they are able to divorce themselves from the perpetrators somehow - where as Asians, Hispanics, and especially Blacks are not. WHY? I'll tell you. People want to believe the BEST about themselves. It's human nature, I guess. Whites have a vested interest in framing their criminals as "anomalies ". "Evil" is of a darker complexion. Since Whites control TV and Print Media - they are able to proliferate this wildly prejudicial and stereotyped perception. (Friday Aug 15 | post #169)
Is Spain the most racist nation in world? What do think ?
LOL...yeah, Japan is SO strange...I've never been there. But I've read the books, and chatted with folks from there. They are not crazy about the gaijin or kokujin...not in terms of living with them long term, at least. It's not really a "race" thing as much as it's an "outsider " thing. The Japanese believe that it is impossible for an outsider to completely understand the Japanese mind and culture - regardless of how long they've been in Japan...regardless of whether they were BORN in Japan. At the same time...Japan is a prime imitator of everything NOT Japanese. It seems to be a national insecurity. It's kind of funny. Have you seen the pictures of little Japanese men doing karaoke with cowboy hats on? Or even worse - the Japanese kids that FRY themselves in tanning beds and then ultra-perm their straight Asian hair into AFROS? Google it - it has to be seen to be believed. A Japanese kid with nappy cornrows is a sight to behold... (Thursday Aug 14 | post #42)
BM never discuss their MIA Fathers! Why?
You are now officially the most obtuse poster on this forum. You've captured the title from Yolanda. What kind of vapid, pointless question is that? Please...just go back to your coloring books. Please. (Thursday Aug 14 | post #12)
Why is an articulate black person a sell out?!
Isn't that funny... I just correlated the term "midwestern White man" with "articulate ". Looks like I've still got some deprogramming to do. (Thursday Aug 14 | post #10)
Why is an articulate black person a sell out?!
I sound just like a midwestern White man. I sound "Whiter" than your average White person from Boston or New York. And I am NOT a sellout...yet. Can anyone tell me what the going rate for a sellout is? Every man has his price... (Thursday Aug 14 | post #9)
What is it with black people and rioting??????
That's because y'all's ice is obviously colder. (Thursday Aug 14 | post #51)
400 Years Of Oppression Always Angers Me
I've read enough of your posts to know you're a separatist/segrega tionist. I understand your reasons from a philosophical standpoint. My concern is the practicality of "Black Unity". I just don't see it happening, ever. And I'm not convinced that it should. Black people can be successful without hitching their fates to a Black wagon. As diametrically opposed as our opinions are - I do respect yours. I think that you are an ironic optimist. I am forever a pragmatic pessimist. I just don't think that Black Unity is the answer. I don't even think it is possible. (Thursday Aug 14 | post #23)
But Ossetia does not recognize or accept Georgian rule...What was Georgia doing invading Ossetia? Bullying. Ossetia's last referendum indicated that a full 99% of Ossetians do NOT want to be Georgians... So - to flip the script - you could also say that a smaller, less powerful Ossetia petitioned Russian (an ally) to protect them from aggression from their captor nation: Georgia. (Thursday Aug 14 | post #6)
Why Does Obama have Whites Running his Campagin?
Because he shopped for and bought them. He checked the resumes, and paid for the best he could find - or those with the most influence. It's straight up politics. (Thursday Aug 14 | post #4)
Is Spain the most racist nation in world? What do think ?
I think...you're right. Japan's a good example. No one calls them overtly racist - but they are so homogenous that even if they were, we'd never know. We DO know that they are not fond of "outsiders ". I think a country has to have enough ethnic variability to create competition before its brand of racism can be established. Humans don't show their worst natures until they believe that they are going to lose out on something because of someone else. And when they can tag that "someone else" with a racial flag...you get racism. (Thursday Aug 14 | post #38)
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