methadone sucks (people against methadone only)
I recommend finding a different site. I was coming here and trying to help people taper (as I have successfully done that), but, as u can see, it is not possible to effectively communicate. It is unfortunate that the people have who have all this time/energy use it for constant bickering (when it could be used for more useful things). This is why I left (and pop back in every 2 weeks or so...to see that nothing changes). Anyway....I would like to help you. Here goes: Find another site....! I did. Good luck. CC (Aug 12, 2008 | post #3406)
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Wow.....your doing great! 14...! Remember, everyone is different. I suffered, but I was very "meth sensitive". I saw others walk off alot easier than I did. I personnaly think u will have it much easir. I was feeling the decreases big time at 20...! Alot really does have to do with the fear. There are no shortcuts......but it can be done. Keep up the good work. cc (Aug 8, 2008 | post #520)
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Scared"...... how are u doing? Check in with us. cc (Aug 5, 2008 | post #517)
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Sleep.....I BEGGED my Dr for something..he said...sorry. Pls do get clonodine.....it may help some. U will deal with it. It is character building...lol. I never missed a beat at work, IT IS NOT THAT BAD>...ths slower...the better. Plus..it is always fine during day (after dosing).....it is the eveing that is worse. Felt like my dose was holding less and less.....till finallya round 7....felt like no effect.....somehea vier withdrawal. Keep moving....u feel better...once u hit the couch...your toast. Good luck. U can do it, Stay close to this board for support. cc (Aug 1, 2008 | post #514)
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Part 2 Part 2 I hope I haven't made u think this will be easy.....quite the opposite. It is hard work...but u are in a good position and if u continue to go slow...it will be minimal...and u can do it. Withdrawal is withdrawal...there is no shortcut. I did not special things....except clonodine...and a lot of perserverance. First, do not listen to any horror stories. I used to. Those alone gave me anxiety. These horror stories are from people who failed...and like to drag people down with them. Or, they are ficticious. Next, yes, I had some depression and tons of anxiety. I said I was stuck at 7mg for 8 weeks. Well, it was like walking thru a dark cave...wicked anxiety. Comes and goes. It gets better, then u reduce your dose and around and around we go. Sleep was horrible from 12mg to 5mg. Some nights....I would wake up at 2:00am and that was it. Clonodine didn't really help with that (do u have any?). I am still catching up and now love my sleep. Brutal. U are just going to have to go thru this. It is rough...but u can do it. The slower the better. It seemed the cycle of feeling crappy would peek at day 3 after a reduction and last for 4 or 5 days. But, sometimes I would get stuck. 2 weeks MINIMUM between reductions. DO NOT BE AFRAID. Fear was the worst. It is a mental thing. Get pumped up...expect many bad days.....and get thru it. What I feared never really came. It was rough...but not what I "imagined ". U must stop worrying and get pumped up about this. It is hard.,...but not that bad. I maintained a white collar job thru this thing!!!...so, not too bad. I was never ever "bedridden " (like may C turkies). Just in a constant state of manageable w/d...with porr sleep and axiety....lol. U can do it. (Jul 31, 2008 | post #509)
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Part 3 (it won't let me make a long post today)? Yes...I went to 1mg....for 4 weeks. I was at 2mg for 6 weeks. I stopped completely on a Sat. Had some diarhea....mild anxiety for 2 days.....some restless sleep for a week and it was over. U can read this on a thread called "CC's Taper..220 to 1". It is hard.,.......but do-able. Stay positive. Listen to your body Do not go down in dose if u feel crappy...If u do, I gaurentee u will go to the dark side. U will never feel great while tapering and will have to reduce while feeling some w/d....but you'll know when....never go down when suffering. Does that last point make sense....cuz it is important. Keep the questions..coming. cc (Jul 31, 2008 | post #508)
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Part 2 I hope I haven't made u think this will be easy.....quite the opposite. It is hard work...but u are in a good position and if u continue to go slow...it will be minimal...and u can do it. Withdrawal is withdrawal...there is no shortcut. I did not special things....except clonodine...and a lot of perserverance. First, do not listen to any horror stories. I used to. Those alone gave me anxiety. These horror stories are from people who failed...and like to drag people down with them. Or, they are ficticious. Next, yes, I had some depression and tons of anxiety. I said I was stuck at 7mg for 8 weeks. Well, it was like walking thru a dark cave...wicked anxiety. Comes and goes. It gets better, then u reduce your dose and around and around we go. Sleep was horrible from 12mg to 5mg. Some nights....I would wake up at 2:00am and that was it. Clonodine didn't really help with that (do u have any?). I am still catching up and now love my sleep. Brutal. U are just going to have to go thru this. It is rough...but u can do it. The slower the better. It seemed the cycle of feeling crappy would peek at day 3 after a reduction and last for 4 or 5 days. But, sometimes I would get stuck. 2 weeks MINIMUM between reductions. DO NOT BE AFRAID. Fear was the worst. It is a mental thing. Get pumped up...expect many bad days.....and get thru it. What I feared never really came. It was rough...but not what I "imagined ". U must stop worrying and get pumped up about this. It is hard.,...but not that bad. I maintained a white collar job thru this thing!!!...so, not too bad. I was never ever "bedridden " (like may C turkies). Just in a constant state of manageable w/d...with porr sleep and axiety....lol. U can do it. (Jul 31, 2008 | post #507)
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Part 1 You are welcome. This is the only reason I am here...to try and help people who are tapering (that's the only experience I have). I am not interested in debating or arguing with anyone. What a waste of time......after being away from here for a month and then coming back and seeing the same crap...u really see what a waste of energy (that could be used for so much more)it is. So sad. When u think of it.....the arguing is with about 5 or 10 people.......out of the millions that need help. I wish there was way to make peace, or at least have people use the energy in a meaningful way.....! I am one to talk.....I went thru all that crap and was one of the worst instigators around (Vini can atest to that). But once u get over it....and see the waste of time...it really is rewarding to actually "help" someone....vs just defending a postion with rude vulgarity. Anyway.....you are most welcome...!!! (Jul 31, 2008 | post #506)
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Vin.... I just suffered thru it. I didn;t get into the vitamins or anything. I did take Clonodine...that helped. yes, from 15 to 5 was tough....I'll pos more here to "Scared too". (Jul 31, 2008 | post #505)
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Wow....our stories are very similar (doseage wise). You are in an excellent spot to get off M. So far, you have done an absolutely correct slow taper. You have not gone down when experiencing withdrawal. I'll sound like a broken record here, but the golden rule is to "listen to your body". Your at 17. You are in great shape. Basically.....I recommend going down 1 mg per 2 weeks. This is what I did. If u feel uncomfortable..hol d another week. I got stuck at 7mg for 8 weeks or so. So what...u wait it out. You will probably never feel "great" between drops....you'll always have some sort of withdrawal....but, listen to your body/mind....and stay at dose if u feel u should. YOu'll know. This might take you another 40-50 weeks......but who cares. If u do it this way...u will walk off at zero, ike I did. For me, it got harder about 12......down to 5. Once I got thru that Plateua at 7mg....the rest was easy. I kept waiting for this huge wave of extreme withdrawal everyone talks about at 3 or 2 or 1...and guess what. It never came. You'll hear alot of horror stories...but they are usually people who cold turkied. Finding people who actually slowly tapered is rare.....but you can do this. Again, you have gone nice and slow...continue to do so. 1mg per week every 2 weeks. Longer when req'd. LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. THIS IS A MARATHON...not a race. Questions? cc ps: If u don't mind...pls judge me racy, spam and....umm...may I pls have the clueless please. Thank you. (Jul 29, 2008 | post #495)
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I have detoxed from methadone. We can help. I repsonded with some questions a page back. If u answer them...we can get moving on helping u. Here it is: ----------- We can offer some suggestions to get off the Big M.....but I am not qualified to talk about suboxone. I did the "slow taper" method and I can give some advice. Vini did a cold turkey. He'll respond on that. We shall not debate which is better....that is personal preference. U can take the information recieved here and then make an informed decsion. But first....we need some info: How long have you been on Methadone (M). What is your current dose? What was your highest dose? Do u have the luxury of "time".. ..to do a taper? If u have reduced your dose.....what was rate of reduction. Let us know...and we'll do what we can. cc (Jul 29, 2008 | post #493)
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We can offer some suggestions to get off the Big M.....but I am not qualified to talk about suboxone. I did the "slow taper" method and I can give some advice. Vini did a cold turkey. He'll respond on that. We shall not debate which is better....that is personal preference. U can take the information recieved here and then make an informed decsion. But first....we need some info: How long have you been on Methadone (M). What is your current dose? What was your highest dose? Do u have the luxury of "time".. ..to do a taper? If u have reduced your dose.....what was rate of reduction. Let us know...and we'll do what we can. cc (Jul 28, 2008 | post #487)
If u went down to 2mg slowly (like 1 mg per week or 2)...... u should be OK. Feel free to go to 1mg for a week or 2 also (thats what I did). I had some irritabilty, diahrea, insommnia.....but it was not too bad at all. 48-72 hours will be your peak. If u struggle....go back to 2mg for a week...then....1mg for 2 weeks...then skip a day for a week. Slower the better if u have the time. cc (Jul 28, 2008 | post #483)
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So, u like it......LOL...! Congrats. Yes, it got me thru a few rough patches too! I am happy for u. What about the Vicoden? Could it have beent hat too? cc (Jul 28, 2008 | post #3373)
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so i see....lol...thanks (Jul 27, 2008 | post #482)
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