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Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
Updates anyone? (May 20, 2009 | post #303)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
I totally agree with you! Keep it up Buttercup! I'm done posting, but I will continue to follow all the postings. I would like to see the outcome of this certain case. (Apr 29, 2009 | post #300)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
Well, I know what happened and I have to look at my little boys scars everyday because of it. We had the dog for about a month when this happened, we adopted him out of an abusive home, but we had no idea things would end up this way. And yes, that may have been our fault by adopting this particular dog, I don't know. I just don't understand how Jake can be so heartless. It's really sad. I used to just hate him/her/it but I actually have quite a bit of sympathy now. No one can play devil's advocate so much and not be hurting inside. A child got attacked by a dog and you continue to fight about it? Another child is being put back into a drug-abusing home and he doesn't care? Now that's messed up. I didn't lie. And the hospital did file a report. That is why they told us if we hadn't sent him to the pound, they would have had him put down. Since our child was the one who got attacked, they gave US the choice. If it had been someone elses child, those parents would have chosen. And we weren't the ones who took him to the pound so I don't know what was said to them, or how he was able to be adopted again. Animal control took him so you can ask them. All I know is that my 2 year old son got attacked by a dog that we barely knew and were trying to train him, but because of the situation that he was in before, it was pretty impossible. So you can believe anything you would like to believe, but you aren't the one who had to watch my son almost die in the hospital now were you? You have no idea the amount of pain my husband and I had to endure in watching him go through all of that. And he wasn't left alone genius. He was playing in his play pen and the dog jumped in and started biting him. I was sitting at the table across the room, where I could see him perfectly. It all happened in matter of seconds. So until you have kids and have to go through something like that, don't you dare tell me that it was my fault. (Apr 26, 2009 | post #284)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
Thanks. It was the most horrible thing I have ever had to go through. I might add that he was only in the pound for 4 months so this wasn't too long ago. Jake has some serious issues. It's so sad, I kind of feel bad for "it". I can't believe someone could be so cold and heartless. And you are right about pitbulls and rotweilers. When I was a kid, my neighbors had 2 pitbulls. They only had them for a year and they had to be put down because they tag-teamed a runner on our street and put her in the hospital. She sued them and the dogs got put down. I find it very unlikely that all owners of those types of dogs are bad people. Sorry that was so off the subject. (Apr 25, 2009 | post #275)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
ACTUALLY, he attacked my son and sent him to the hospital so, sorry if you don't like that. At that point, ya I did send him to the pound. My son was in the hospital for an entire week, with tubes all over his body and almost died, he was 2 years old. So yes I did send him there. Got a problem with that? Oh of course you do, you don't care for children, just dogs like yourself. And he wasn't destroyed, the only reason we sent him there was because if we hadn't, the authorities would have had him put down. And about 6 months ago, we were curious to see if he was still there, and he got adopted, so you can just keep your damn opinions to yourself. (Apr 24, 2009 | post #271)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
I totally and and absolutely agree with you! I am a mother as well, and I could never imagine putting my son through that. Or myself. Drugs are just stupid, why people do them is beyond me. And Talon wasn't her only child she had while on drugs. All of her children were conceived with drugs in her system. And I am sorry, but Jake is REALLY bothering me, so I just need to say TWO things(sorry, but I can't hold it in). NATASHA ROYBAL CHOSE THE LARSON'S. They didn't go on some "baby buying website" and choose the saddest birth-mother with the saddest story and decide they could "save her baby". You are one screwed up person. And another thing, you never seem to comment on the fact that she was hooked on drugs with all her children. You just **** and moan about her not being able to take herself off of them while pregnant. Yes, she went right there, but that does not make her some sort of saint. Her first mistake was to be on them at all. Maybe if she is gonna do drugs and have sex, she should get on some sort of birth control. Or maybe she should just practice abstinence, the whole pregnant thing isn't really working out for her. (Apr 23, 2009 | post #265)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
bahahahahaha this is actually getting kind of funny. Oh wait, it already was with all of Jake's silly comments. Very entertaining. I had a dog named Jake once, he was a pain. We sent him to the pound, such a terrible dog. (Apr 23, 2009 | post #264)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
I hadn't read the comments before about not responding, and I apologize. His comments just got me fired up. But anyways, I totally agree with all of you. This is a disgrace to their culture. The culture should never be more important than a child's well-being. I have a couple of friends who were adopted, and they would never have it any other way. The circumstances weren't good enough to where they could attend college, as they do now. They had wonderful childhoods because they were adopted. If they had had stayed with their birth parents, they wouldn't have been give the opportunities they have now. I'm not saying that white is better. In fact, one of my friends IS WHITE and she was adopted into an ASIAN family. They have provided her with the things that her birth mother couldn't, because she was addicted to drugs and was an alcoholic. She was being abused and raped by the many men that her mother brought home with her. After being sent to 3 different foster homes before she was 8, they finally found a family for her. I have so much pain for the Larson's. Not only because Talon was taken away from them, but because they know the environment he is in, and if I were them, I would be heart-broken too. It is such a disgrace. (Apr 23, 2009 | post #255)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
Also Jake, you are always saying how it is no ones business, but you are ALWAYS writing back. Obviously, you think it is your business. And I never said anything about it not being anyone's business, so don't try to come at me with one of your stupid responses. You just keep firing back with all of your unemotional nonsense, I wonder why??? (Apr 21, 2009 | post #247)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
If you think that the whole adoption thing is just a way to "buy babies" then I think you have many more issues than just this thread. The Larson's were ADOPTING a baby. Not BUYING a baby. Anyone who buys or sells babies is totally messed up, kind of like you. The Larson's were wronged and I think you know that. I don't understand how any NORMAL person wouldn't understand that. But then again, you aren't all that normal are you? So, I guess I understand perfectly in that circumstance:) (Apr 21, 2009 | post #246)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
You're an **** . Go rot in a corner and DIE. (Apr 7, 2009 | post #216)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
What we want to know is why it is such a big deal with the Indians? I mean, Asian children, African-American children, and WHITE CHILDREN are ADOPTED everyday. If this is your logic, then half of the stars in Hollywood are criminals for "kidnapping " children, from unfortunate circumstances. The Larson's did nothing wrong. They went with the flow of adopting a baby. A baby that they thought was theirs. And because an absolute mistake of the mother, he was taken away. Maybe the tribal courts should take more responsibility when one of their own decides to put up her baby for adoption. They would save a whole lot of money and grief if they would do just that. It's a little bit iffy when a grown woman can put up a baby for adoption, and then have her own people tell her and the family that SHE CHOSE, that it isn't really her decision. All we're saying is that the tribal court system is backwards. Since they think they have so much jurisdiction, maybe they should enforce it and have a law saying that the Indian people aren't allowed to put their children up for adoption. Because Natasha Roybal was allowed to put him up for adoption. If she wasn't and did it anyway, then obviously she is the bad guy. If they would have made things A LOT more clear, they wouldn't be dealing with this mess. (Apr 7, 2009 | post #211)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
Anonymous, I agree with you! Although, if Natasha Roybal was as good a mother as Heather Larson, we wouldn''t be having this discussion. Heather Larson would never put a child through any of this hell that Natasha has created for herself. (Apr 2, 2009 | post #204)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
There is no hope for you Jake. It is funny the things you seem to believe. It baffles me that there are people like you in the world. It's a good thing you have chosen to not conceive, the children would be doomed. On the other hand, if you HAD children or had the DESIRE to have children, maybe you would feel differently. It's very, very sad Jake. Like I said before, Natasha Roybal is a selfish, selfish person. Yes she was on a methadone program while being pregnant, I absolutely agree with you there and I commend her for her efforts. But maybe she shouldn't have been so irresponsible to get pregnant WHILE BEING ON DRUGS. It's terrible the misery she has put her children through. Not ONE BUT ALL THREE CHILDREN!!!! I can understand a little recklessness, a mistake the first time, but putting three children through it?! It gets a little old when a woman in her thirties is hooked on drugs and still conceiving children. And it wasn't only her, her husband was too. It's very sad that she got hooked on those drugs, and from personal experience in my family I know the situation. I love my family member that had to go through that but in NO WAY did I defend her behavior. It was wrong and she knew it, from all of us. We not once defended the bad decisions she did while on the drugs. I can't believe that someone is willing to defend her behavior. I don't understand the logic in, and quite frankly I don't care to. (Mar 30, 2009 | post #195)
Utah custody fight complicated by tribal law
I totally agree, Buttercup. (Mar 30, 2009 | post #188)
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