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Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

Oh c'mon.... I'll her word for it and it doesn't really matter if she isn't a 'family member' does it? Certainly what she has added to the discussion has not been to raise flags or create arguments. For that matter, how do we know you are an 'observer'? You might be the real killer. Please verify!  (Aug 27, 2012 | post #2351)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

Sure sounds fitional to me... Below is a synopsis. Still using fictional names, etc. "Purple gang"? <the book> reveals for the first time unknown information about the crime, the principals and others involved that created the underlying causes that ultimately resulted in the death of all 6 members of the Rawlings family in June of 1968. One Way transports you back in time to reveal who, what, when, why and more importantly how all the main characters in this novel were involved on that fateful day. The maze of circumstances and events that surrounded Richard Rawlings, his business contacts and personal relationships are exposed for the first time. It all starts with a young, but mature teen-age girl along with her younger brother and parents who migrate from the hills of Kentucky to the growing industrial city of Detroit to seek a better life. Within a matter of months, fate brings her together with a suave and articulate Jewish businessman who also happens to be the head of the notorious Purple Gang. Contained in this circle of deceit and ruthless business dealings there evolves a young engineer who steals a valuable and secret manufacturing process sanctioned by the U.S. Government for war use. The process makes him a multi-millionaire and eventually a prominent figure within the Rawlings “round table” of friends as an advisor. In this ring of events there comes a time which leads to a star baseball player to become involved with a Detroit crime family that may have cost the Detroit Tigers the pennant in 1967. One Way puts all the pieces of the crime puzzle together and explains the step by step process that led to the mass murders on that overcast day in the early summer of 1968.  (Aug 15, 2012 | post #2333)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

Cheyenne: Please crawl back under your rock, directly. Thanks.  (Jan 15, 2012 | post #2249)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

Another aspect has occurred to me lately. It is inconceivable that Richard Robison would leave the office for a month (the time it took to discover the murders) without making contact with one or more people working there. In particular, Joe Scolaro. Now I think that Joe had given some answers to people who inquired as to where the Robisons were, such as "heard from Richard yesterday" but it was probably something more general than that. I would think that the investigators could have caught him in such a lie. He must have had to do some cover-up to explain the absence.  (Feb 25, 2011 | post #1621)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

Now we're getting into an area that has me thinking. Assuming that Scolero did the crime, how much prep did he do and how much time took place before he made the trip to the cabin? We have: 1) A planned trip with a chartered airplane that apparently never arrived nor did any charter company ever inquire why no one was at the airport. 2) A planned arrival at the cabin of Roebert which presumably never occurred but got the family to be there all at the same time. 3) Alibis on Joe's part as to where he was that day. 4) The disposition of the two guns of each type that he had purchased. Giving one of each away would throw the investigation off, maybe. 5) And the fact that the family went to the cabin before all of the above. Of course, Richard would probably have to plan his vacation well in advance, and Joe would just have to wait for that to happen, but he would know in advance as well. And probably more details others could add. So my question is: when did he start to plan all this? I think the sum of the missing money was possibly large enough to make Joe do this crime, but also the "jig was up" for him now that it was discovered that something was amiss... and he was deep into deceit (and possibly debt) with the various advertisers and other things he had done.  (Mar 13, 2010 | post #1442)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

The airplane and its engine are not of much concern to the discussion. Airplane engines have a set amount of hours that the engine can be used (time between overhauls) and are routinely rebuilt. In addition, when an airplane sells, the hours on the engine figures heavily in the purchase price. It is most likely that the sale of the airplane was fair to both buyer and seller.  (Feb 8, 2010 | post #1343)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

I think the best summary of the whole crime, and which pretty much closes the case for me is the "Statement of Professional Judgement" which was written by Ed Goss, a polygraph expert who examined Joe Scolaro at length. I can't find a link to it now on http://mardilink.t ypepad.com/rusty_g un/robison-case/ but if you look back in this list, I am sure there will be a link. It pretty lays out the case and some details as to how Goss is sure that Scolaro did the crime.  (Dec 14, 2009 | post #1286)

Hillman, MI

Health Care - Hillman, MI

And where in the Constitution does it say/allow: 1) A mandate on individuals... for healthcare or anything else. 2) Fines for non-compliance to anything. 3) Jail time for non-compliance. I am hoping that if they pass this Obama-nation, that some group or group of individuals will bring up the Constitutionality of the bill.  (Nov 16, 2009 | post #2)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

I think Richard had a large eqo and Joe played on that.... A good sociopath would make you believe you could trust them with anything and that they would do anything for you. Then, when it was discovered he was embezzling money, everything changed for Joe.  (Oct 15, 2009 | post #1241)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

This all makes one wonder how much planning Joe S. (or whoever did it) put into this... and it could have been a considerable amount. 1) There was the supposed 'charter flight' that was to happen the next day to take the family on their trip. This would have to be arranged by Joe S. I would think but it never was scheduled. As far as I know, no such flight was ever cancelled and no plane showed up at Pellston the next day. Right there is a good clue as to who did this. 2) Supposedly 'an important person' was supposed to come to the cabin that night. It did appear that the entire family was dressed up more than casual. Yes, they went to dinner, but normal lifestyle would suggest they relax once they got home. The fact that they were expecting guest(s) would keep them all in the house where the killer would want them. 3) Since it was a month or more before the murders were discovered, you would think that some time during that month that calls would have been made asking about the family. I'm thinking here of maybe reservations somewhere on the trip that were forfeited.. some other scheduled meeting of Richard on the trip (they were going to look at a horse farm I think) that never happened. There could have been several such calls but if Joe S. took them, then he could excuse his way out of the situation. 4) And Joe S. told Shirley's mother that he had heard from the family on their trip and they were having a good time. So in my opinion, Joe S. had planned the murders quite well in advance and then pulled it off at the planned time.  (Oct 15, 2009 | post #1236)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

Susan: Could you be a bit more specific about this book? I chased down CLEWS and Laura James and I found Mardi's book "Isadores Secret"... Mardi also wrote "When Evil Came to Good Hart" which most of us here have read. Mardi also comments here from time to time. But I didn't find anything about a 'new' book on the case.  (Oct 14, 2009 | post #1233)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

If you go back a page or two, you will find a reference as to how to get the DVD's. They would come from the man who taped the forum, not the library. I believe there is an email address.  (Aug 31, 2009 | post #1205)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

Pete: I would call the library and ask. They told me they were only going to make the DVD's once and took orders for about a month. So unless they made a few extras (likely) and you can grab one, they won't be making any more.  (Jul 12, 2009 | post #1151)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

Ken: as to the setup, I guess that is another point that has me puzzled. I always thought that Scolaro "went over the edge" on that very day, since that was when Robison discovered that the $200,000 wasn't going to be deposited and he and Scolaro had quite a few angry phone calls about it. Always seemed to me that that was the point where Scolaro decided he had to do something. (here I am assuming that Joe did it) But yet, I think there must have been a lot of 'setup' going on that must have occurred in the days or weeks previous. The airplane coming to pick them up; Roebert supposedly coming to visit; everyone set to go out to dinner (I think). You can't set all that up in an afternoon (and here I am not saying those things were *going* to happen, just that Robison expected them to happen.) Therefore, Joe must have had this plan all along... and you wonder just when he made the decision to do the setup. Because once he started the plan, he would have to go through with it. Points to ponder.  (Jun 29, 2009 | post #1133)

Cross Village, MI

Robinson family murders....i'm looking for info.

Ken: Interesting points... and you also have to figure in that the whole family would probably not be sitting/waiting until 9:30pm. So I would expect that the 7 or 7:30pm hour would have been a more likely time, or even earlier. I've forgotten what time the people heard the shouts/shots but that should peg the time pretty good. There are so many missing points.. such as: did they find mud tracks in the house which would indicate it was also raining there (and maybe that's why all the kids were inside) I also wonder whether the perpetrator would have had to go past anyone's house to get to Summerset and whether anyone saw anything. I live on a dirt road, very little traveled, and I know that if I hear a vehicle on the road I normally will look for it. Just musing.  (Jun 28, 2009 | post #1128)