Yet when I was spit on for my political beliefs, none of you called the person who did it anything even remotely insulting. (Aug 24, 2012 | post #19)
I mainly criticized those who were saying that the kids should turn in the dealers because in most cases, the dealer is in his late twenties to early thirties and does not know the kids that he ends up selling to. As far as heroin goes, yes it's incredibly harmful, but I don't think we should make it illegal as such. I'm not in favour of harmful behaviors that are self-inflicted being banned. If someone knows the danger of heroin and wants to use it anyways, so long as he/she doesn't put other people in danger, I'm okay with that. (Aug 18, 2012 | post #34)
And yes, that banner is purposefully pretentious for the sake of humour. (Aug 18, 2012 | post #29)
"According to AAS: he's about 20 years old, a Lincolnway Central graduate where he achieved D's," True. "he doesn't want to work unless one considers making a couple of hundred a month writing a blog a job," I've made more than a couple hundred a month, but true other than that. I don't like the prospect of employment. It's also notable that over the summer I did some volunteer work. "he doesn't want to earn a degree or a skill in order to gain meaningful employment," Eh. I think that our education system is kind of stupid in what it requires to get a degree, but I'm willing to put up with it. So this one isn't true. "he insults veterans," Some veterans. Some. There are veterans that I respect. "he disrespects the flag," Mhm, it's a symbol of hypocrisy and greed. "he harassed a family over the Fourth of July at the Commons," If you believe their side of the story. My side: a family yelled and screamed at us, one member spit at us. Afterwards we approached them and asked to talk. They said no. We asked if they were sure, then the Dad stood up in a confrontational way and told us to go away because they came to have a family time and didn't want to deal with this. We left, despite his flagrant hypocrisy and stupidity surrounding the fact that he initiated contact initially. Then he reported us to the cops for "harassing " them. "has little respect for law enforcement," True. The primary duty of law enforcement is to enforce inequality. If you look at their actions, that's a much better predictor of police action than the law is. "probably collects welfare," My mother received some social security money while I was in high school. Since then, no. "and spouts off views on everything to show his alleged intellectual superiority while having minimal life experience or education." When have I ever claimed intellectual superiority? "What am I missing here? I was enjoying the peace with him gone. Read his blog if you value his opinions." I can agree with this. The site isn't completely set up yet, and I'm not posting regularly as I'm currently working on other aspects of the site, but soon enough I shall be posting at least weekly here: http://www.GoebelG oneGlobal.com (Aug 18, 2012 | post #28)
Why is it such a stretch to jump to the conclusion that some of these "at least three" reports might have been to try to suppress my speech when people have literally threatened me in order to attempt to suppress my speech? Someone says "You think you can disrespect the flag? I'll kick your ass when we're away from all these cops" and that's blatantly trying to suppress my opinions, but if someone reports me to the police as dangerous, the mere possibility that they could have had that in mind makes absolutely no sense to you? (Aug 18, 2012 | post #24)
I, for the most part, agree. Cops and the FBI have a long history of suppression of free speech, so it does make me nervous to have to deal with them, but in this case their intent was not to suppress said freedom. (at least assuming that I'm not arrested relatively soon based on suspicion of something related to my speech) The only reason they were there is because ordinary people viewed me as a threat because I held different opinions and/or wanted to suppress those opinions. I'm, at present, far more concerned with the citizens of this country who would gladly show approbation towards a government that would silences those they disagree with. The people who felt the need to report me are menaces to freedom. They feel unsafe when the crowd isn't homogenized. They are a huge problem and need to be dealt with... ...By using deadly force. (kidding) (Aug 18, 2012 | post #20)
I have a lot to say to these responses. Some might get left out, but let's try to get through this: Neighbor, being anti-American doesn't automatically translate to "I want to kill Americans". That you seem to think that is a credit to your ideological background. Unincorporated, it seems to me that your concerns are that the type of dissent you yourself may intend on voicing may eventually be silenced. I can understand this concern, but I also want to encourage you to read up on this government's history of suppression of dissent. It's not new, it's only new to folks of your persuasion. Look up information on Cointelpro, that's a good place to start. thinking, I appreciate the support. I also encourage you to read up on this government's history of suppressing free speech, as I suggested to Uni above. Mama, I don't particularly find fault in that. I'm certainly not sure where I'm going to end up, so finding my place seems like an apt way to describe my current life. What's interesting is that a few times folks had made threats towards me, yet nobody reported them. Hmm. Retards, I don't think you can apply a definition of "anti-America n" to both Obama and I. You'd have to have two separate definitions for that to work, so the comparison seems to fall apart. Also, I have occasionally played devil's advocate, but when I do, I tend to point out that I'm doing so. Lastly, I strongly disagree with your definition of socialism. No socialist would ever vote for the bail-out of private banks (as Obama did). Parenting, I hate this country's actions, but I don't hate all of its soldiers. A fairly large amount of US troops are people who enlisted because they didn't see any other way to pay for college. I can't hate someone for being taken advantage of. (Aug 18, 2012 | post #18)
I've been visiting this site, but my posts stopped going through a while ago. I'll try again, simply based on the nature of this thread. Let's hope this goes through, though if it doesn't you'll never know. Basically, at least three people had contacted the police and warned them about me. In response, an FBI agent and two police officers came to my house and spoke with me. The funniest was some parent saying that they were worried I was going to come and shoot up the movie night at the commons because they thought I sympathized with James Holmes (the shooter from the Batman movie premier). The concern was apparently simply based on the fact that I often attended the movie night, as I spent a lot of time at the commons reading (I enjoy the scenery). Yes, concerned parents. It's very clear that I want to harm your children. More so, I want to harm your children and I'm going to choose to do so at an event that is always attended by at least two armed police officers and is located directly next to the police station. Pretty smart on my part. And just for the record, the sarcasm in my above paragraph should be apparent. Also, directed towards Unincorporated: I do occasionally write for places other than my personal blogs and Topix, but when I do, there's no way for people here to find that out (and I can support that by the fact that nobody has ever pointed any of them out). That combined with it being locals who reported me, according to the agent, the obvious conclusion seems to be that they were likely Topix users, people from the Fourth of July, or a mix of the two. Directed towards tree: This particular agent and set of cops didn't have a problem with me having opinions different from their own. They were sent there specifically to see if I was dangerous. It seems likely that some agents and officers might have considered me dangerous under the same circumstance, but these ones didn't. I'd also like to think that my demeanor reveals me to not be dangerous, as I have very friendly and open body language that most describe as likable and approachable. I come off as pretty non-threatening, and they probably saw that. These guys were much more level headed than the brutish officer who got in my face at Proud American Days. Though, honestly, I'd rather not have to deal with cops or feds in any way because I feel threatened when I have to (and for good reason considering the history of both groups and suppressing free speech), I'd prefer to deal with those individuals again than with officer hand-on-gun. Lastly: I'm attempting to start a local non-fiction book club up. The goal is to have around twelve members and currently I have four but have only just started asking around. If anyone is interested (I figure one or two Topix users might) send me an email at LanceRGoebel@yahoo .com and I'll add you to the list and give you the time and place if this all goes through as planned. (Aug 17, 2012 | post #9)
Nah. And the lawsuit probably wouldn't be worth it anyways. If it had turned out that he was like chief of police or something, I might have considered it, but why would someone that high up be there? It was likely just some standard officer who never got high because of his short temper and got stuck with carnival duty. Meh. (Jul 26, 2012 | post #26)
I'm not really surprised by it. Cops tend to be bad people. Bad people given power over other people, to make things worse. It's not a surprise to me that a cop would want to suppress political speech as menial as miniature flag hung upside-down. It's not a surprise to me that a cop, being a (particularly bad) human being, would see something that he disliked and react to it with emotions rather than reason and end up threatening someone who is unarmed. Fuck the police. (Jul 26, 2012 | post #25)
New Lenox, IL
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