Obama too pro-choice to receive vote for president
If there were any women using abortion as their birth control, they would be having 50 or more abortions in their childbearing years. That never happens. The vast majority of women who have abortions only ever have one. And we don't really fund sex ed in schools- not adequately anyway. Fact-based, age appropriate sex ed is spotty at best in schools today. Programs that alleviate poverty and decent sex ed would go a lot further to decrease abortions than any abortion laws ever could. (Thursday | post #231)
Obama too pro-choice to receive vote for president
Well, there is no such thing at "partial birth abortion" so I'm guessing you are referring to the D & X procedure. That is a rare and tragic situation when a medical condition of either the pregnant woman or her fetus have declined and immediate delivery becomes necessary to preserve the life or health of the mother, or if the fetus has issues incompatible with life. It is done at a stage when a medical abortion is too dangerous, and only in a professional medical setting with an evaluation from someone with an advanced medical degree who has determined it to be necessary. Did I mention it's exceedingly rare? I'm not sure of Obama's position on D & X but I certainly hope that he, as I do, believe in a woman's autonomy over her body and in her and her doctor's rights to make private medical decisions without government interference. (Thursday | post #230)
Democrats open convention in Denver
What do you know about Ayers? Please enlighten me. I know plenty, and don't have a problem with Ayers. There's also no proof that he and Obama have any connection other than serving on a board together and attending a fundraiser together at one point. Who the heck cares?! Ayers never hurt or killed anyone, and I find him to be an interesting guy. I'm not saying what he has done was always right, or that by finding him interesting that I (or Obama) condones his actions 40 years ago. But please elaborate- what's the problem with Ayers? Please give me more information than just "terrorist ". Thanks in advance. (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #141)
Democrats open convention in Denver
Well when he wins I guess we'll just see that "liberal do-gooders" are the majority in this country, now won't we? People like to say liberals are in the minority, but when Obama wins and your point is proven, then you'll have to admit that we're not so small now won't you? I'll take it!! (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #138)
Democrats open convention in Denver
Funny because George W. Bush spent more than half that much time on vacation in the last year alone and he's ALREADY the president. I'll take Obama over Bush every day of the week and twice on Sunday. 146 more days. (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #137)
Stealth attacks on reproductive rights
You want to hear something ironical too? I'm pro-choice and about to adopt my first child!! This is no healthy white newborn either. No waiting list, no tens of thousands in adoption fees, and there is no one interested in helping his drug addicted, developmentally disabled mother either. Oh, except probably someone who harrasses her as she goes into a family planning clinic to get her birth control. That same someone has no interest in adopting her 6 children though. I support her right to choose and will teach the same to my child. (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #442)
Obama too pro-choice to receive vote for president
Good call. You beat me to my point! (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #173)
Obama too pro-choice to receive vote for president
Um, its "moot", not "mute". And I personally don't care where our presidents put their penises. What I do care about is their position on preemptive wars, climate change, healthcare, and education. (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #172)
Obama too pro-choice to receive vote for president
I don't know where to begin with your post, it is so full of inaccuracies. I'll start with a couple: First, there are no "laws" protecting the "unborn" from medicines, tobacco, etc. A woman who ingests a product that might be dangerous to her fetus or her pregnancy faces no charges. She can certainly choose to NOT ingest those things, but the laws do not protect her "unborn child". Second, there is no such thing as an abortion "one minute before birth". Abortions after viability are so incredibly rare that they almost never happen. When they do happen, the fetus was not going to survive or the mother was not going to survive the birth. Any attempt to revive a fetus before viability no matter the reason it was delivered (by induced or spontaneous abortion) is useless because the fetus cannot survive outside the uterus. Viability is 24 weeks. You are likely to cite the case of a 22 week infant who survived. Yes, there is one in documented history. Just one. One in billions and billions who have been born in human history. Viability remains 24 weeks and no one has an elective abortion after that point anyway. So your points are moot. (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #171)
Obama too pro-choice to receive vote for president
You are incorrect. Please do research. Abortion was legal for the majority of documented history. It was made illegal in the US in the late 1800s, the exact year depends on which state you lived in. It was illegal in all states by 1900 until 1973. 73 years is a tiny portion of "society ". (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #169)
Obama too pro-choice to receive vote for president
Or "I am Bush". 147 days. (Monday Aug 25 | post #151)
Stealth attacks on reproductive rights
Birth control is not 100% and there is no guarantee that even the most wanted pregnancy will be a healthy or safe one. Sometimes the best option for pregnancy is termination. Its not fun or enjoyable, and never the best possible outcome, but sometimes its the best option. That is why abortion must be safe, legal, and available. (Monday Aug 25 | post #425)
Obama too pro-choice to receive vote for president
I don't believe there is life at conception, just potential life. The vast majority of fertilized eggs never implant. They are just passed from the woman's body or reabsorbed unceremoniously. If fertilized eggs were "babies" or "life" or "human", then every woman who has ever had unprotected sex has probably committed murder as their fertilized eggs ended up flushed down a toilet or thrown away on a Kotex. Once implanted, that egg becomes an embryo and THEN pregnancy begins. It is still potential life. Its growth and development are totally dependent on that one uterus. If the woman cannot or will not carry that pregnancy to term, the pregnancy will end. No one can EVER force her to carry it if she does not want to. (Monday Aug 25 | post #148)
Obama too pro-choice to receive vote for president
So a woman who is pregnant SHOULD NOT have rights over her body? Sorry, but that's not just the way it is now, its the way it should be. No society is ever going to tell women they cannot control what happens inside of their bodies- ever. (Monday Aug 25 | post #146)
Obama too pro-choice to receive vote for president
I made a mistake. 9 million people call Chicago home, not 7. I don't think any place in the US that has 9 million people is far from the "mainstream ". (Monday Aug 25 | post #142)
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