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Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

Mrym as you have seen we have shown you what the society say not what we say. It is they who say you must never put a non JW first before the organisation. All we are doing is showing you what they have written to their members. Just read for yourself what they say about friendships outside of the organisation. When you find those quotes ask your teacher if the society mean what they say or can you just take it or leave it, and still stay a well respected member of the congregation and an example of being a good Christian.  (13 hrs ago | post #503)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

And the reply will be no you don't need to push him out of your life. Providing he does not interfere with your activity as a witness, he can still be called a friend. That is what the reply will be, before you are baptised. But once baptised if he ever wanted to do something special with you or go somewhere special with you, it would only be acceptable if it did not interfere with anything the JWs regularly engage in. If it coincided with a meeting, an assembly, circuit overseer visit or a field service arrangement, you would be looked down upon if you put him first. And certainly if you held any position in the congregation you would probably be spoken to about it.  (13 hrs ago | post #502)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

Hi Myrm, please remember most of what you read from ex JWs are quotes from the Watchtower. We know that JWs will not take our word on something so we post what the society actually say. When anyone is a bible study they will do everything they can to get you to baptism. However at that time you have to agree to work and support whatever the society say. We have shown you what the society say about 'worldly friendships'. They are not encouraged and they tell you that you should always put the organisation before any of these 'worldly friends'  (Yesterday | post #476)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

We must also be on guard against extended association with worldly people. Perhaps it is a neighbour, a school friend, a workmate, or a business associate. We may reason,'He respects the Witnesses, he leads a clean life, and we do talk about the truth occasionally.' Yet, the experience of others proves that in time we may even find ourselves preferring such worldly company to that of a spiritual brother or sister." Watchtower 1994 Feb 15 p.24 That is the view of the society. Food for thought.  (Saturday | post #444)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

We must also be on guard against extended association with worldly people. Perhaps it is a neighbour, a school friend, a workmate, or a business associate. We may reason, 'He respects the Witnesses, he leads a clean life, and we do talk about the truth occasionally.' Yet, the experience of others proves that in time we may even find ourselves preferring such worldly company to that of a spiritual brother or sister." Watchtower 1994 Feb 15 p.24 That is the view of the society. Food for thought.  (Friday Apr 18 | post #429)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

Hi Myrm you are totally correct in all you say, but please check out JWs view of having a close friend who is not a JW. You will be bombarded with council from the platform about bad association spoiling useful habits. If he is not a JW then they will not regard him as good company. And from another standpoint, My very best JW friends dropped me the moment I started questioning Watchtower doctrine. The love and friendship shown at the kingdom hall is totally dependant on you following all the governing body tell you, or even suggest for you to do. Unfortunately the realization of this often comes too late, because the rules only apply after you are baptised.  (Friday Apr 18 | post #416)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

It will be the local elders who tell you that being his close friend is not a good idea, if they think you are seeing too much of him.  (Thursday Apr 17 | post #399)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

Maria do you really think someone who has given their life to an organisation for 10 plus years is going to leave and never say anything to anybody about it? Of course they are. As far as they are concerned they have been treading the wrong path for many years. There is nothing in the bible anywhere that says if someone leaves a religion they cannot talk about it to others. It is disgusting that the society approve of shunning in this way.  (Monday Apr 14 | post #277)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

You mean because they protect child abusers, teach you to follow commands of men within the organisation, because they are now a billion dollar religion, and they shun people who simply leave the religion. Oh yes they have come a long way. I think Russell would be more likely to disfellowship the current gov body than the other way around  (Monday Apr 14 | post #256)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

Hi Maria, I don't think you would have spoken like that a while ago before Russell was ditched by the organisation. He was seen as God's channel for the lsat 100 years until the org realized there was just too much he did wrong to continue saying he was the channel God was using at that time.  (Monday Apr 14 | post #255)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

Hi Mrym, sorry to say when i was a witness I was a ministerial servant and a regular pioneer. So I had no choice if I wanted to keep my position in the congregation. I did look down on them and thought of myself as better than them. In time I saw the error of my ways, and will now talk to anyone who is an ex witness. I just walked away from the religion without any disfellowshipping, but that did not stop many witnesses shunning me including my very best friends.  (Sunday Apr 13 | post #224)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

Hi Boo Hoo oh sorry its woo hoo isn't it. lol Please tell me what I said above that was negative. Maybe you think they should read all 4 pages out to the cong.  (Saturday Apr 12 | post #186)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

I can understand why they did not read out all four pages as most witnesses would never be able to take it all in. But they certainly should have made it available on the notice board, so those that were interested could read the small print as it were. Poor Garath/Anerin still cant get his head around the fact that ex JWs get copies of all important changes in the org, weeks before the witnesses get to hear about it. Well he and other apologists better get used to it as there are more and more disgruntled elders out there who want the world to know what is happening in this organisation  (Friday Apr 11 | post #170)

Jehovah's Witness

The pain of shunning caused by JW's

When you run a charity the donators give what they can afford. That figure will not be the same every month. No one should feel obligated to give a set amount every month, and they certainly will in this organisation. Why do you think the society moved Garath? It was because they realized they could make a billion dollars plus from selling their New York properties. The new properties will cost nothing like the money they have made from selling. So they are very cash rich at the moment. If the congregation does not send what they had agreed to send, they will get a letter from Watchtower telling them that they are not sending what they said they would. Individual witnesses who have had to cut their donations for whatever reason will feel extremely guilty even though it is not their fault they no longer have the money to spare. It is totally disgusting, and the complete opposite to the way the early Christians did things. And I did realize about no longer calling it a loan. But how wicked of them to ask the cong to keep sending in the same amount of money even when the money they got from the society is returned to them. If a cong is used to donating a set amount, then suddenly they need tens of thousands of dollars more of course the congregation will be stretched because they are being asked for a lot more money.  (Friday Apr 11 | post #163)

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