Trayvon Martin Debate - Lakeport, CA

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I've seen more blood from a paper cut.

The odds are that you will get SOMETHING right someday, but not this time.

Physician: Zimmerman had broken nose, black eye

The day after George Zimmerman fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, a family physician wrote in a report obtained by ABC News that Zimmerman had a broken nose,“a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury.”

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/15/...

self defense, pure and simple.

The day after Zimmerman killed Trayvon a family physician wrote a report. How convenient. Did it excuse george from bible studies as well?

George Zimmerman profiled, stalked, chased, confronted and killed the unarmed Martin. If anyone was Standing Their Ground it was Trayvon Martin.

(CBS) SANFORD, Fla.- The voice heard calling for help on a 911 call just before Trayvon Martin was fatally shot was not that of George Zimmerman, two forensic voice identification experts told MSNBC on Sunday.
"The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence said.
When asked if he thought such tests would be admissible in court, Owen said "yes" and noted he had recently used similar testing at a murder trial that involved a 911 call.
The conclusions of Owen and another audio expert were first reported by The Orlando Sentinel on Saturday.
The 911 call he examined came in on the night of Feb. 26 from a woman who reported someone crying out for help in a gated community in Sanford, Fla. In the recording of her 911 call, panicked cries and a gunshot are heard.
After the Sentinel contacted Owen, he used software called Easy Voice Biometrics to compare Zimmerman's voice to the 911 call screams.
"I took all of the screams and put those together, and cut out everything else," Owen says.
The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.
"As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen says, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon's, because he didn't have a sample of the teen's voice to compare.
The Sentinel said that Ed Primeau, a Michigan-based audio engineer and forensics expert, came to the same conclusion.
"I believe that's Trayvon Martin in the background, without a doubt," Primeau says, stressing that the tone of the voice is a giveaway. "That's a young man screaming."

WFTV has confirmed that autopsy results show 17-year-old Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles when he died.

The information could support George Zimmerman's claim that Martin beat him up before Zimmerman shot and killed him.

The autopsy results come as Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O’Mara continues to go over other evidence in the case.

O’Mara wouldn't comment on the autopsy evidence, but WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said it's better for the defense than it is for the prosecution.

WFTV has learned that the medical examiner found two injuries on Martin’s body: The fatal gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles.

Read more: http://globalgrind.com/news/trayvon-martins-a...

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George Zimmerman profiled, stalked, chased, confronted and killed the unarmed Martin. If anyone was Standing Their Ground it was Trayvon Martin.

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George Zimmerman profiled, stalked, chased, confronted and killed the unarmed Martin. If anyone was Standing Their Ground it was Trayvon Martin.

It is not wise to set yourself up for a huge disapointment.
Wake up....or better yet, put down the bong.

"In an interview with ABC News, expert and veteran state attorney Angela Corey says that although Martin was only 17-years old in life, his stature (6-3, 170 pounds) could qualify him as an adult in the courts. In turn, this may make his killer George Zimmerman's self defense claim more valid, and could see the state of Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law work in his favor"

If a person that size is beating on you.... you MUST get that person off of you.........period......end of story.

Push yourself away from the bar dad.

George Zimmerman profiled, stalked, chased, confronted and killed the unarmed Martin. If anyone was Standing Their Ground it was Trayvon Martin.

This is the most recent witness and the evidence is piling up.  Why was Zimmerman stopping anyone?  How do you stop someone without grabbing them, constituting assault and negating a self defense claim.
Do this, just walk up to any stranger, stop them and demand they tell you what they are doing.  Even if you don’t kill them, you will end up in jail for stalking and assault.
If you are killed by them, they have self defense on their side.  Funny thing, though, many Americans think rules should be different if your father is a judge or the person you stop is black.
We call such people “white supremacists” or “racists.”  When they harm others, we call those acts “hate crimes.”
Earlier in the week police said they thought Zimmerman to be guilty of murder and had been stopped from arresting him based on a call from Tallahassee telling them to stay away “in an election year.”