Trayvon Martin Debate - Aurora, IL

Obviously this is racially motivated and tragic

Obviously????
Do you have access to all the facts?
How about we let the justice system function?
It might even agree with your assessment.

This tragic incident where a young man was shot and killed by a neighborhood watch man presents a dilemma. In the liberal's efforts to do away with the rights of citizens to own hand guns to protect themselves and their property they are going all out to paint the picture of how dangerous it is for private citizens to have a gun in the home. But this tragic death of this young man presents another dilemma of the liberal democrats and that is that in this present shoting case, two minorities were involved in the shoting death, a Mexican and a colored young man, The liberal demorats have to walkj a fine- line not to offend one minority, losing their votes by throwing their support behind the other minority hoping to gain their's This is the liberal democrat's dilemma, Lets see how successful the liberal democrats are in handling this situation in which they have to choose which minorities side they take.The liberal democrats claim to be for all minorities..... lets see which minority wins the liberal democrats support, its going to be interesting to watch.

Johnny Appleseed wrote:

This tragic incident where a young man was shot and killed by a neighborhood watch man presents a dilemma. In the liberal's efforts to do away with the rights of citizens to own hand guns to protect themselves and their property they are going all out to paint the picture of how dangerous it is for private citizens to have a gun in the home. But this tragic death of this young man presents another dilemma of the liberal democrats and that is that in this present shoting case, two minorities were involved in the shoting death, a Mexican and a colored young man, The liberal demorats have to walkj a fine- line not to offend one minority, losing their votes by throwing their support behind the other minority hoping to gain their's This is the liberal democrat's dilemma, Lets see how successful the liberal democrats are in handling this situation in which they have to choose which minorities side they take.The liberal democrats claim to be for all minorities..... lets see which minority wins the liberal democrats support, its going to be interesting to watch.

In the interest of saving space, I have shortened some words, Like ( Shooting) to (Shoting)Gee... I hope they buy this...

Johnny Appleseed wrote:

a colored young man

Typical racist Johnny

Eric wrote:

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Typical racist Johnny

Typical incendiary Eric. Read the whole post.
Don't just pick out of context items, which of course is you speciality.

You are just so predictable it is stunning.

Eric wrote:

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Typical racist Johnny

Typical Liberal's, playing their typical favorite old hack tune when any subject comes up that they want to make hay out of," Racism,"Its Racist, Its Racist, Its got to be racist....yawn...zzzzz

You are right the whole post was racist. There is no reason for the matter to be even considered as an issue between one race or another. You had two Americans interacting. Race had nothing to do with it. Race is only a factor for Johnny and his ilk. He and they are licking their chops hoping for a race issue to ensue where their was none.

Why isn't it an issue of young and old? That is just as feasible. But the Johnny's of this world couldn't bend it into a political issue if that was what was happening.

Using the word "colored" just proves the point.

Eric wrote:

You are right the whole post was racist. There is no reason for the matter to be even considered as an issue between one race or another. You had two Americans interacting. Race had nothing to do with it. Race is only a factor for Johnny and his ilk. He and they are licking their chops hoping for a race issue to ensue where their was none.
Why isn't it an issue of young and old? That is just as feasible. But the Johnny's of this world couldn't bend it into a political issue if that was what was happening.
Using the word "colored" just proves the point.

Keep digging a hole. You are so predictable.
It's racist one time if it agrees with "your" idea of racism. but it is not racist if someone else finds something racist.

Why do people like you and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson play the racist card when it fits your needs but somehow are not present when it is so obvious.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, don't get between them and a camera, you will be run over,

Can you say "Tawana Brawley".Can you say "Karin Stanford".Can you say "hymeie town".

Play the race card, loser.

So very predictable to cover up the mess.

what wrote:

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Keep digging a hole. You are so predictable.
It's racist one time if it agrees with "your" idea of racism. but it is not racist if someone else finds something racist.
Why do people like you and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson play the racist card when it fits your needs but somehow are not present when it is so obvious.
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, don't get between them and a camera, you will be run over,
Can you say "Tawana Brawley".Can you say "Karin Stanford".Can you say "hymeie town".
Play the race card, loser.
So very predictable to cover up the mess.

What was racist about what happened? Only people like you and Johnny are reading race into it because you hope to divide and conquer on a political plane. The same thing happened between two Caucasians not long ago. Was that racist?

Johnny is so predictable. It was shown by the use of the word "colored".

Eric wrote:

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What was racist about what happened? Only people like you and Johnny are reading race into it because you hope to divide and conquer on a political plane. The same thing happened between two Caucasians not long ago. Was that racist?
Johnny is so predictable. It was shown by the use of the word "colored".

Zimmerman called Trayvon a "f***ing coon", that is a racist slur.
This was a hate crime, and the Florida law seems to have been written so that whites who kill blacks can hide behind the "danger" they feel from anyone who has a different skin color than they.
Racism is alive and well in Florida, lots of racist bigots here in Illinois too evidently.
How sad.

hMMMMM wrote:

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Zimmerman called Trayvon a "f***ing coon", that is a racist slur.
This was a hate crime, and the Florida law seems to have been written so that whites who kill blacks can hide behind the "danger" they feel from anyone who has a different skin color than they.
Racism is alive and well in Florida, lots of racist bigots here in Illinois too evidently.
How sad.

You forget that it was a Mexican who killed a Afro- American,( Note, I used the Jessy Jackson preferred term for Black people to please Eric) It wasn't a white man who did it.

Johnny Appleseed wrote:

<quoted text>You forget that it was a Mexican who killed a Afro- American,( Note, I used the Jessy Jackson preferred term for Black people to please Eric) It wasn't a white man who did it.

Your point?
His father is not Hispanic, and we have no idea how he was raised.
I have a feeling that if you have children, they are well aware of your racism, despite the fact you think you do not.

hMMMMM wrote:

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Zimmerman called Trayvon a "f***ing coon", that is a racist slur.
This was a hate crime, and the Florida law seems to have been written so that whites who kill blacks can hide behind the "danger" they feel from anyone who has a different skin color than they.
Racism is alive and well in Florida, lots of racist bigots here in Illinois too evidently.
How sad.

It's interesting you can conclusively know this. The officials with the actual recording can't definetifely state what Zimmerman said.
His friends who include blacks say he is not racist, but I guess you know better.
Thank you for your intimate inside knowledge.

Too bad we can't ask Trayvon if he thinks that Zimmerman was a racist.
By his actions, it is pretty obvious that Zimmerman was.

hMMMM wrote:

Too bad we can't ask Trayvon if he thinks that Zimmerman was a racist.
By his actions, it is pretty obvious that Zimmerman was.

What is obvious is the the activist, ie, Black community organizers, and the liberal democrats are attempting to try this case in the streets instead of in the court of law and the usual provocateurs, the Father Pflegers, the al Sharptons, and the reverent Jessy Jacksons in this country instead of attempting to clam the troubled waters of racial divide and hatred between the races are busily fanning the flames to bring back, if they can, vigilante justice. Like common bandits who cover and hide themselves behind cloth so as not to give themselves away,they go about preying upon the peoples prejudices.
Eric Holder,Obama's Attorney General when talking about trying Terrorists said that the proper place to try them was in the civil courts, It would seem then that the civil courts are also the appropriate and the right places to try this case involving a Black young man and this Mexican neighbhood watch member, not in the streets or in the media as its being tried now.

hMMMM wrote:

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Your point?
His father is not Hispanic, and we have no idea how he was raised.
I have a feeling that if you have children, they are well aware of your racism, despite the fact you think you do not.

Census Bureau....It is important to recognize that this system treats race and ethnicity as
separate and independent categories. This means that within the federal system
everyone is classified as both a member of one of the four race groups and also as either Hispanic or non-Hispanic. Consequently, there are a total of 8
race-ethnicity categories, as illustrated by the table below:

U.S. Population by Race and Hispanic Origin in thousands)

(White ) Black American Indian Asian & Pacific
& Alaska Native Islander
non-Hispanic 194,571 32,324 1,977 9,532
Hispanic 26,746 1,649 347 598

XXXX(AS THE ABOVE TABLE ILLUSTRATES,THE HISPANIC POPULATION IS PREDOMINATELY (WHITE.)XXXXX

Because the number of Hispanics in the Black, American Indian & Alaska Native,
and Asian & Pacific Islander categories is relatively small and thus difficult
to estimate accurately at smaller levels of geography,( our tables which display
race and Hispanic origin information divide only the White category by ethnicity.)

It is important to recognize that this system treats race and ethnicity as
separate and independent categories. This means that within the federal system
everyone is classified as both a member of one of the four race groups and also
as either Hispanic or non-Hispanic.
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the Community watch member who is accused of shooting Trayvon Martin was a Mexican.

Its pretty self explanitory

fck whitey wrote:

Its pretty self explanitory

THE above table illustrates, the hispanic population is predominately White.)XXXXX

hMMMM wrote:

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Your point?
His father is not Hispanic, and we have no idea how he was raised.
I have a feeling that if you have children, they are well aware of your racism, despite the fact you think you do not.

His father is not Hispanic so he isn't. Oh that is right for people like you the mother does not matter- Obama's mother was white and his white grandmother raised him after the black father skipped out-but he is black enough for you.