Immigrants & K-12 Debate - Maple Heights, OH

The drug war is prosecuted racially. That isn't even up for dispute. The white-run government made the nonsensical crack-to-powder laws just to lock up black people. Whites and black use and sell drugs at the same rate, but who ends up with the record. This is a fact that is known internationally. lol

The housing collapse was elite whites making billions. You do the math. lol Big banks got bigger. All are white owned. Billions and billions were made. The white elite who run this country never have done anything for black people when it didn't benefit them to do so. From ending slavery to Civil Rights, the elites always benefited.

And I do agree with the fact the democrats have done a lot of harm to the black community. I've always said the best option is somewhere in the middle.

If you believe in this fictitious white man made drug laws thing, then the only realistic way blacks can deal with the problem is not use crack. Right?

Without repeating myself, we've discussed DumBama's recent law about ticketing truck drivers for talking on the phone. It is only for truck drivers and not people in their cars. The law is directed at us only. So the only way to deal with it is not use the phone while we are driving or get a bluetooth device. It doesn't matter how much I object to it, believe it's biased, or how unfair it is. The solution (until we can get a politician to change this law) is to not break the law.

The housing expansion was designed for Democrats to keep the black vote and nothing more. The only white elites were the Democrats who fought the Republicans to continue down this road and who have been building on this thing since Jimmy Carter. A lot of white elites (as you call them) lost their shirts. Banks (such as National City) closed for good. Others struggled to barely make it out alive. Some went to jail or were heavily fined.

In hindsight, the picture is clearer now. If anybody took the brunt of the housing collapse, it was not the black people, it was the white people. Blacks got to live in houses they had no ability to pay on, many of them probably stayed for free until the bank kicked them out, many in suburbs for the first time in their lives such as Maple Heights. The downfall was their foreclosures ruined their credit rating, but many of which likely had bad credit anyhow.

I'll ask you some rather simple questions. Humor me and answer them.

1. Was slavery racist?
2. Was Jim Crow racist(ended in the 1960s)?

Simple enough. Simple yes or no questions. Like Perry Mason would say, a simple yes or no will suffice.

No, slavery was not racist because slavery was considered the norm at the time. Hell, there are still plenty of countries today that have slavery. Arizona is considered the kidnapping capital of the world. They are second on the entire globe when it comes to kidnapping. What do you suppose happens to those people--primarily Hispanics?

Jim Crow was racist, but so is Jessie jackson and Louis Farrakhan. There are still a handful of KKK members out there, but there are also gangs like the Black Panthers too.

Do you think it's racist if a black guy with the exact same credentials gets a job before me simply because of his race? Do you think it's racist when a potential white student fails to get into a great college because a minority with less accomplishments gets in first? If something tragic happened to our dear mothers, and both were killed by somebody of the opposite race, is it fair that the culprit in your mothers murder will get more time and possibly the death penalty under Hate Crimes than the black culprit who killed my mother? Would you consider it racist if we had a White entertainment channel on cable and satellite?

Racism was invented to justify slavery. White intellectuals admit this. As you know, Jim Crow was racist. So the U.S. has a long-standing history of institutional racism and you believe it suddenly stopped? Seriously? It's akin to believing black people stopped suffering racism after slavery ended. Did we? No. We went through Jim Crow.

The drug way -- or I should say how it is prosecuted -- is another example of institutional racism. Minorities are not treated fairly, but that's the history of the U.S.

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/how-drug-war-fu...

In the 1920s, very few white people would have admitted Jim Crow was racist. You guys know better now. The same with the way the war on drugs is prosecuted. If it were equally prosecuted, there wouldn't be a drug war. Whites would demand its end.

The U.S. has a history of ending one racist policy and implementing another. If the drug war does end, the scary part is what will the U.S. do next. lol

Your piece was rather lengthy and I didn't have time but for a few pages. Already I could spot unfounded allegations such as people are constantly stopped, arrested and incarcerated for no reason whatsoever. That doesn't happen in America today. Even if a white cop were to falsely arrest somebody, it would never make it through the system and out of the media eyes.

The truth is there is more criminal activity in the black race than the white. Black people seem to have less ability to respect authority, and that's what gets them in trouble.

Now if there were any truth to this conspiracy your piece seems to point to, then all blacks would have been locked up years ago. The truth is that there are blacks who have never seen the inside of a police car yet alone jail. How did they manage to do that? They obeyed the law and respected authority when confronted.

Blacks and whites use and sell drugs at the same rate. However, black people are more likely to be arrested and sentenced to prison than whites.

http://academic.udayton.edu/race/03justice/cr...

The mass incarceration of African Americans is a direct consequence of the War on Drugs. As one commentator states,'Drug arrests are a principal reason that the proportions of [B]lacks in prison and more generally under criminal justice system control have risen rapidly in recent years.' Since the declaration of the War on Drugs in 1982, prison populations have more than tripled. The rapid growth in prison populations is particularly clear in federal institutions. Although the overall federal prison population was only 24,000 in 1980, by 1996, it had reached 106,000. The federal prison population continued to grow in the 1990s. In 2000, the federal prison population exceeded 145,000. Fifty-seven percent of the federal prisoners in 2000 were incarcerated for drug offenses. In 1982 there were approximately 400,000 incarcerated persons. By 1992, that number had more than doubled to 850,000. In 2000, there were over 1.3 million persons in prison. From 1979 to 1989, the percentage of African Americans arrested for drug offenses almost doubled from 22% to 42% of the total. During that same period, the total number of African American arrests for drug abuse violations skyrocketed from 112,748 to 452,574, an increase of over 300 %.

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We are just talking about drugs. Something whites do as much as us, yet we are the ones being locked up.

The claim that African Americans violate the drug laws at a greater rate, and that this justifies the great disparities in rates of arrest and incarceration, seems unlikely. Most drug arrests are made for the crime of possession. Possession is a crime that every drug user must commit and, in the United States, most drug users are white. The U.S. Public Health Service Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration reported in 1992 that 76% of drug users in the United States were white, 14% were African American, and 8% were Hispanic. Cocaine users were estimated to be 66% white, 17.6% Black, and 15.9% Hispanic. Rather than demonstrating patterns of use that approach arrest disparities, African Americans 'are less likely to ...[use] drugs than whites are, for all major drugs of abuse except heroin.'

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Again, it's ingenious. Elite whites have come up with something even better than slavery or Jim Crow. If 66 percent of cocaine users are white, why are we getting locked up and not whites? lol Some war on drugs, huh?