Ryan Medicare Plan Debate - Paragould, AR

Obamacare kills Medicare. Obamacare raids $500B from Medicare to spend on Obamacare, puts in place a 15 member board to ration Medicare – of bureaucrats. Our budget repeals the raiding, gets rid of the rationing board, preserves this program, makes no changes to the program for a person 55 years of age or older, and saves Medicare by reforming it for our generation, but it’s solvent.
The president’s plan does not save Medicare. It allows it to go bankrupt. It rations the program and raids the program. We will stop the raiding, and we save the program from bankruptcy.

Democrats want to kick the can down the road on this issue just like they did with Iraq, Osama, and everything else.

Those pesky fact checkers..roflmao. They also address your other plagerised claims from some unknown website..lol.

http://factcheck.org/2011/05/ryans-budget-spi...

In the 15-page brochure, Ryan makes the false claim that his budget "does not cut Medicaid" and that it "spends more on Medicaid each year than it does the previous year." His own budget shows that’s simply not true. His budget would slash Medicaid spending below current levels for years to come.

Why do people place all faith in factcheck.org and snopes.com as if whatever they say is the gospel truth?

Come on people, those are just internet blogs like any other. And they should likewise be looked upon with a suspicious eye, especially because of the liberal leanings of the foundation that funds them.

Ryan's plan will reform medicare so that it can be saved.
Obamacare takes a half a trillion out of Medicare which will only cause more rationing of healthcare.

guest wrote:

Why do people place all faith in factcheck.org and snopes.com as if whatever they say is the gospel truth?
Come on people, those are just internet blogs like any other. And they should likewise be looked upon with a suspicious eye, especially because of the liberal leanings of the foundation that funds them.

Its so easy to say this to discredit those sites and show no proof to the contrary. Way to go girlie!!lol.

If you have ever looked at factcheck you will they are the middle ground, checking both left and right.

District9 wrote:

Its so easy to say this to discredit those sites and show no proof to the contrary. Way to go girlie!!lol.
If you have ever looked at factcheck you will they are the middle ground, checking both left and right.

You’re such an idiot. Listen, why don’t you find out something about the liberal leanings of the Annenberg Foundation and nut jobs David and Barbara Mikkelson?

Smart people know better than to rely on anything factcheck.org or snopes.com claims. Both sites are owned and operated by far left wackos you do what far left wackos do best - lie and distort the truth.

Only idiots and brain dead libtards put any stock in what they have to say. Which one are you?

The Republican plan SCREWS everybody 55 and younger. Plain and simple. Big corporate insurance companies who support Ryan will make billions at the cost of the taxpayer.

District9 wrote:

Those pesky fact checkers..roflmao. They also address your other plagerised claims from some unknown website..lol.
http://factcheck.org/2011/05/ryans-budget-spi...
In the 15-page brochure, Ryan makes the false claim that his budget "does not cut Medicaid" and that it "spends more on Medicaid each year than it does the previous year." His own budget shows that’s simply not true. His budget would slash Medicaid spending below current levels for years to come.

I'd love to see Democrats come up with some solutions, or our President for that matter.

From what I understand he's obligated to do that every year he is president and he hasn't.

Compared to the budget Obama put out, which even Democrats rejected, Ryan's plan is pretty darn good.

Barbbtx wrote:

Ryan's plan will reform medicare so that it can be saved.
Obamacare takes a half a trillion out of Medicare which will only cause more rationing of healthcare.

It's odd Democrats are using Mediscare tactics when they are the most guilty ain't it?

It's a shame the liberal media won't report the truth.

District9 wrote:

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Its so easy to say this to discredit those sites and show no proof to the contrary. Way to go girlie!!lol.
If you have ever looked at factcheck you will they are the middle ground, checking both left and right.

So you're saying Democrats are the responsible problem solvers huh?

They have yet to provide any solutions or even a budget.

They inhertied 4.6% unemployment and it doubled when they were in charge.

Nancy Pelosi inherited a national debt of 5 trillion and now it's 14 trillion.

Democrats are going to teach someone about responsibility? LOL

Just the facts wrote:

The Republican plan SCREWS everybody 55 and younger. Plain and simple. Big corporate insurance companies who support Ryan will make billions at the cost of the taxpayer.

You must hate Obamacare if you hate the Ryan Plan.

Obamacare is the Ryan Plan on steriods.

Just the facts wrote:

The Republican plan SCREWS everybody 55 and younger. Plain and simple. Big corporate insurance companies who support Ryan will make billions at the cost of the taxpayer.

Hmm....just because government doesn't provide every person in the country something that means they're screwed? Should government be required to feed every person? Give everyone a house? Clothe everyone?

Come on man. It's time for you to grow up and take responsibility for yourself.

guest wrote:

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You’re such an idiot. Listen, why don’t you find out something about the liberal leanings of the Annenberg Foundation and nut jobs David and Barbara Mikkelson?
Smart people know better than to rely on anything factcheck.org or snopes.com claims. Both sites are owned and operated by far left wackos you do what far left wackos do best - lie and distort the truth.
Only idiots and brain dead libtards put any stock in what they have to say. Which one are you?

Yet you still offer nothing other than name calling. You go Girl!

That MAP sure has a lot of BLUE on it..lol.

The judits drones need to get busy to rig the map..roflmao.

Anyone with half a brain knows and fully understands that the liberals have spent th emedicare money on their new Health care reform package which is terribe and threy have also borrowed so much from the social security fund and therefore these plans are going broke quickly especially with the baby boomers retiring at this time. Therefore we muct chjange these plans to make them long lasting. Ryans plan does not have any efffect on age 55 or olders folks concerning medicare. It will cause younger folks to pay more for their social secutity as you and I had to pay more for ours than our parents did. Its simple math folks..change it or lose it.

ok..for all you right wing nuts..and I do mean nuts..Delay..and the Rethuglicans changed medicare in 2002-2003 and really created a mess there..and illegally held the vote open in the house way past the time limit when things weren't going their way..I still remember that..now they want to create another monstrosity un the so-called "Ryan plan" with vouchers.."Give me a break"..not happening..the Majority..yes the Majority of Americans will not go
along with such garbage..it's obvious it was meant to provide more opportunity for price gouging for the fealth insurance industry..and less health care than what we have now..we will get more back when the new health care plan kicks in in 2014..anyway folks..the right wing nutjobs here are not going to change..so much of their existence is predicated on their radical nut job philosophy..and they refuse to wake up and find that their "foundation" of beliefs" oh for the last 30 yrs is that of nothing but fascism..and some "pipe dream that someday as long as they buy into this crap they will somehow enjoy the tax breaks that only the upper crust of rich Americans enjoy now..that's what they get for watching Fox noise 24-7 and feeding into it like the German people did the Nazi propaganda in the 1930's..hmmm..(twilight zone theme)..in fact their read the "daily talking points from the freedom works operation and rant on ith that daily garbage..just remember when they lose their carcass in 2012..they still won't shut up..BUT KNOW THIS..thank god!..as far as the rest of America..only maybe about 13%..IN ALL..follow their loony tune methodology..and most of them are right here in the south..well.. their prerogative..but that's because for them they have to live in a dreamworld because they ARE NOT responsible to deal with what is real..they create messes and the rest of us have to pick up the pieces..people like them elect to get in wars..and WE have end up sending our sons and daughters..they don't..let them get in uniform and face combat..it will give them a fresh perspective on reality..it's called "Reality Check" Happy Memorial Day..Remember the fallen..

guest wrote:

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Hmm....just because government doesn't provide every person in the country something that means they're screwed? Should government be required to feed every person? Give everyone a house? Clothe everyone?
Come on man. It's time for you to grow up and take responsibility for yourself.

Medicare is going to be bankrupt in 2024 I think according to Obama's actuary and actually since we're 14 trillion in debt it already is.

Something has to be done, this isn't something Democrats can kick down the road.

amused wrote:

ok..for all you right wing nuts..and I do mean nuts..Delay..and the Rethuglicans changed medicare in 2002-2003 and really created a mess there..and illegally held the vote open in the house way past the time limit when things weren't going their way..I still remember that..now they want to create another monstrosity un the so-called "Ryan plan" with vouchers.."Give me a break"..not happening..the Majority..yes the Majority of Americans will not go
along with such garbage..it's obvious it was meant to provide more opportunity for price gouging for the fealth insurance industry..and less health care than what we have now..we will get more back when the new health care plan kicks in in 2014..anyway folks..the right wing nutjobs here are not going to change..so much of their existence is predicated on their radical nut job philosophy..and they refuse to wake up and find that their "foundation" of beliefs" oh for the last 30 yrs is that of nothing but fascism..and some "pipe dream that someday as long as they buy into this crap they will somehow enjoy the tax breaks that only the upper crust of rich Americans enjoy now..that's what they get for watching Fox noise 24-7 and feeding into it like the German people did the Nazi propaganda in the 1930's..hmmm..(twilight zone theme)..in fact their read the "daily talking points from the freedom works operation and rant on ith that daily garbage..just remember when they lose their carcass in 2012..they still won't shut up..BUT KNOW THIS..thank god!..as far as the rest of America..only maybe about 13%..IN ALL..follow their loony tune methodology..and most of them are right here in the south..well.. their prerogative..but that's because for them they have to live in a dreamworld because they ARE NOT responsible to deal with what is real..they create messes and the rest of us have to pick up the pieces..people like them elect to get in wars..and WE have end up sending our sons and daughters..they don't..let them get in uniform and face combat..it will give them a fresh perspective on reality..it's called "Reality Check" Happy Memorial Day..Remember the fallen..

Republicans created a mess? LOL

Even if they did Democrats had a change to solve the problem and didn't.

Don't slam the most trusted name in news, Fox News, because you're uninformed. Anybody that likes Obamacare just doesn't know about it. There's a reason all Nancy's buddies are getting waivers, it's horrible!