Romney-Ryan Debate - Ashland, KY

Taxed enough already wrote:

<quoted text>the republicans have only had control of the house for the past year and a half. Dems controlled Washington for his first two years. One could make the argument that the republican controlled house is what is encouraging the economy now.

Here is something that says it better than I can...

http://www.brookings.edu/research/papers/2010...

Kyle wrote:

<quoted text>Joe- Do you really believe what you posted?

Romney shut down companies and shipped their jobs overseas. What you call "this last four year nightmare" was started long before Obama became president. Clinton built this country up to have a surplus of revenue. We were in the black. Then the Bush's came along and started giving tax breaks to the wealthy and started 2 wars. How's that "trickle down economics" working out for you? Have you seen any increase in jobs from this plan?

Also, the repubs want to gut Medicare/Medicaid and SS for the elderly.

Finally, the House of Representatives is majority Repubs and they vowed to block any and all bills that Obama or the Dems put forth for a vote. Grover Norquist had the repubs sign a pledge of no more taxes. The repubs are looking out for their wealthy donors.

BTW, why won't Romney release his atx returns for more than two years prior? I feel he has a lot that he does not want the voters to see.

You idiot! Bain Capital bought companies that were about to close!

Honesty

DieselVette wrote:

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You idiot! Bain Capital bought companies that were about to close!

Bain Capital owns Can Am. Can Am is closing the Sea-Doo factory in Canada (500 good jobs lost) and is moving production to Mexico. Can Am is making lots of money at the moment as they have a large share of the market. They just want to make more. Many of those job losses will result in financial hardship , divorces and other problems for society. These guys do not care and that is their perogative. I just do not think I want one of them as my president.

My mom, my older brother and I lived off his SSDI survivor benefits and help from my mom's family. My mom received the benefit until I was 16. Us kids received the benefit until we graduated from high school, me for eight years. My mom put herself through community college and found a good job. My brother graduated high school and joined the military. I graduated and went to college. The point is that we would have been destitute without the SSDI benefit, and I'm sure we didn't pay much in taxes for several years. The government benefit, which my dad paid into, did exactly what it was supposed to do - keep us afloat until we could take care of ourselves.

And that we have done. We've gone on to have good careers. I now proudly pay over twice as much tax, as a percentage of my income, as Gov. Romney does. I've not done the math, but I'm sure that the income and payroll taxes my dad paid before he died and the taxes my mom, brother, and I have paid - and continue to pay - more than make up for the years we lived on SSDI. I would have given up that benefit any day to have my dad back. It was not a political decision to take that benefit, and my first presidential vote for Bush in 1992 was not leveraged by whether or not he was going to keep me on the dole.

I feel sorry for Romney. I truly think that he and those who surround him simply don't understand how most Americans live.

motorbike ike wrote:

<quoted text>Bain Capital owns Can Am. Can Am is closing the Sea-Doo factory in Canada (500 good jobs lost) and is moving production to Mexico. Can Am is making lots of money at the moment as they have a large share of the market. They just want to make more. Many of those job losses will result in financial hardship , divorces and other problems for society. These guys do not care and that is their perogative. I just do not think I want one of them as my president.

He's not been with Bain since 2001. So your story does not apply. They outsourced exactly ZERO jobs while he was there.

That said, what is the goal of business?

BullFeathers wrote:

My mom, my older brother and I lived off his SSDI survivor benefits and help from my mom's family. My mom received the benefit until I was 16. Us kids received the benefit until we graduated from high school, me for eight years. My mom put herself through community college and found a good job. My brother graduated high school and joined the military. I graduated and went to college. The point is that we would have been destitute without the SSDI benefit, and I'm sure we didn't pay much in taxes for several years. The government benefit, which my dad paid into, did exactly what it was supposed to do - keep us afloat until we could take care of ourselves.

And that we have done. We've gone on to have good careers. I now proudly pay over twice as much tax, as a percentage of my income, as Gov. Romney does. I've not done the math, but I'm sure that the income and payroll taxes my dad paid before he died and the taxes my mom, brother, and I have paid - and continue to pay - more than make up for the years we lived on SSDI. I would have given up that benefit any day to have my dad back. It was not a political decision to take that benefit, and my first presidential vote for Bush in 1992 was not leveraged by whether or not he was going to keep me on the dole.

I feel sorry for Romney. I truly think that he and those who surround him simply don't understand how most Americans live.

I think they understand just fine.
But where in Article 2 of the Constitution do you find "make citizens feel understood"? Pathetic.

Ryan is lying

Go Obama wrote:

If you vote for Romney - you might as well kiss Social Security and Medicare good-bye! He is only going to help the RICH!

You couldn't be more misinformed if you tried. Romney is a self made manm, no hand outs or hand ups, what he has he has done on his own. The illegal Alien and Chief needs to go. Obama is set on destroying America as we know it. Obama is the biggest HOAX ever pulled on American people. He wants to take down America and make it a 3rd world country. Obama is anti-America and he has done everything possible to bankrupt this country.Given 4 more yrs. he will get his job done. Obama is pure evil, ungodly heathern.

Maaloxx wrote:

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You couldn't be more misinformed if you tried. Romney is a self made manm, no hand outs or hand ups, what he has he has done on his own.

SS and Medicare is NOT a handout! We have paid into it throughout our entire working careers!

best canadiate

Server wrote:

We're still in this mess thanks to the republicans that you hold in such high reguard. Romney and Ryan will tax the middle class while giving themselves and the people that bought them more tax breaks, mark my words they are the worst choice anyone could make and I wish people wouldn't listen to the garbage on Fox News and think for themselves.

You need to post honest opinions, Lies will not help our country. Romney is our only hope, and HE IS NOT TAXING MIDDLE CLASS.....PERIOD! Obama hates America and is hell bent on destroying our country. He will destroy the America we all know. The Mainstream Media has not been honest with us, ONLY FOX tells it like it is. If you enjoy being lied to, then tune into NBC,CBS, ABC, MSNBC is the worst. CNN puts out an honest news cast about once a month, the rest is BS. If Obama wins this election, you can say good-bye to all we have held near and dear to our hearts. He has almost bankrupted the United States, that is phase one of his plan, if he is re-elected, he will finish us off. He is Muslim and anti-Christian. Please take the time to educate yourselves before you blindly give our Nation away...I was a democrat for 30 yrs. when I realized the democratic party I knew has been high jacked, it no longer exists. The Progressives & the liberals have taken the democrats over. If you are a democrat, you need to check and see what you are a part of, chances are you will be shocked....

BullFeathers wrote:

My mom, my older brother and I lived off his SSDI survivor benefits and help from my mom's family. My mom received the benefit until I was 16. Us kids received the benefit until we graduated from high school, me for eight years. My mom put herself through community college and found a good job. My brother graduated high school and joined the military. I graduated and went to college. The point is that we would have been destitute without the SSDI benefit, and I'm sure we didn't pay much in taxes for several years. The government benefit, which my dad paid into, did exactly what it was supposed to do - keep us afloat until we could take care of ourselves.
And that we have done. We've gone on to have good careers. I now proudly pay over twice as much tax, as a percentage of my income, as Gov. Romney does. I've not done the math, but I'm sure that the income and payroll taxes my dad paid before he died and the taxes my mom, brother, and I have paid - and continue to pay - more than make up for the years we lived on SSDI. I would have given up that benefit any day to have my dad back. It was not a political decision to take that benefit, and my first presidential vote for Bush in 1992 was not leveraged by whether or not he was going to keep me on the dole.
I feel sorry for Romney. I truly think that he and those who surround him simply don't understand how most Americans live.

Do you think a Muslim that hates Christians knows how most Americans live??? Wake up before Obama ruins this country. He is evil. Do you have a grandma or grandpa over 70 yrs. old, well if they get cancer or need a bypass, FORGET it , they will be made comfortable and allow them to die. That is a FACT, research it, its there for all to read, just google Obamacare. They have counted on folks not reading it all. Obama doesn't want you to know whats in that health care bill. Again Obama is pure evil.

obma suxks

Please dont use slander, its fine to disagree but at least be fair.
1. Fox news is one of the least credible news organizations currently active. All media outlets have sharply declined in thier credibility ratings as of the newest report but Fox news is tied for least credible along with the New York Times and USA today. Bill O'Reily and Glenn Beck are not actual news casters and have since renamed thier show under an "entertainment source" label.
2. Obama is not a muslim. He did have ties through his stepfather who was a moderate muslim from indonesia. He attended a private catholic school in his youth and officialy became a practicing christian around the time he met his current wife. He did not take the oath of office with the Quaran.
3. Saying he hates america is just plain silly. Evil? REALLY?
4. This "fact" about the elderly being let die under obamacare is improper speculation. The speculation was based on the presumption that Obamacare was operating under the blueprint from UK's Liverpool Care Pathway. They do practice euthenasia. While significant cuts are coming to Medicare/Medicaide, most of these situations are for the extremes such as organ donation and expensive surgery. 14.1 million is actually being funneled into preventive screenings (cancer screenings, TEE, cholesterol checks) in an effort to reduce the cost for chronic conditions.

Im not an obama supporter or a liberal. In response I would honestly just like someone to tell me why Romney should be elected without refering to the current president.

P.S. Romney is actually RAISING the taxes on the middle class.

NowareGood wrote:

Please dont use slander, its fine to disagree but at least be fair.
1. Fox news is one of the least credible news organizations currently active. All media outlets have sharply declined in thier credibility ratings as of the newest report but Fox news is tied for least credible along with the New York Times and USA today. Bill O'Reily and Glenn Beck are not actual news casters and have since renamed thier show under an "entertainment source" label.
2. Obama is not a muslim. He did have ties through his stepfather who was a moderate muslim from indonesia. He attended a private catholic school in his youth and officialy became a practicing christian around the time he met his current wife. He did not take the oath of office with the Quaran.
3. Saying he hates america is just plain silly. Evil? REALLY?
4. This "fact" about the elderly being let die under obamacare is improper speculation. The speculation was based on the presumption that Obamacare was operating under the blueprint from UK's Liverpool Care Pathway. They do practice euthenasia. While significant cuts are coming to Medicare/Medicaide, most of these situations are for the extremes such as organ donation and expensive surgery. 14.1 million is actually being funneled into preventive screenings (cancer screenings, TEE, cholesterol checks) in an effort to reduce the cost for chronic conditions.
Im not an obama supporter or a liberal. In response I would honestly just like someone to tell me why Romney should be elected without refering to the current president.
P.S. Romney is actually RAISING the taxes on the middle class.

You are so mislead and there is no reason to be, you are on the internet,use it to educate yourself. ROMNEY WILL NOT RAISE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS, that is pure propaganda to say that, it is NOT true, check it out for yourself. The largest tax increase in the history of the united states will take place Jan. 1st 2013 to pay for Obamacare, which Romney said he would repeal right away.
Mitt Romney is a self made man, no hand ups, he became sucessful on his own. The most important thing about Romney and his wife Ann, they both believe that Jesus Christ is Lord.....Obama hates Christians and Isreal, and I believe all white people. Obama came from no where and rose more quickly than any others before him.......the fix was on to take over our country. Please vote Romney/Ryan for the sake of all of us....The color of Obamas skin is the very least of our concerns, being half black means nothing to me. I certainly wish his color was all we had to worry about

Joe wrote:

Well obviously non-stop spending isn't the solution! He's destroyed the economy and healthcare at a faster pace than anyone in history. You just keep on doing what your wealthy/greedy unions tell you to do! Keep on voting to expand more and more government programs... It's about time people wise up.

Amen Joe!! I hear ya, and well said.. We must take our country back, away from the progressive liberals and most of all away from Obama...he is pure evil

anything or anybody would be better than what we have.

I have checked my facts. Romney has PROMISED not to raise taxes on the middle class however upon further analysis of his 20% across the board tax(which technically would be the same currently) however he does not raise enough revenue to cover cost without raising the taxes on the middle and lower class. Even by closing the tax loopholes for the wealthy , that does not begin to cover the cost. Please refer to the Tax Policy Center for an analysis.

he sucks