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Occupy Wall St Debate - Livermore, CA

Discuss the national Occupy Wall St debate in Livermore, CA.

Do you identify with the Occupy Wall Street movement?

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#24
Nov 19, 2011
 
it's pathetic that occupy wall st even has its own menu. i won't be coming back to topix. have a nice life.
Orwell

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#25
Nov 20, 2011
 
Livermore Teamster wrote:
Its Un- American
The above poster is a paid for propagandist working for an advertising Corporation. He wants you to have hate in your heart and is only trying to confuse the good people of America. Don't give yourself to this unnatural man. He wants to use you and tell you what to think.

The people are waking up to how America is ran by a Corporatocracy. Going to the voting booth every couple years to pick which Corporate puppet we want to lead America is not going to cut it anymore.

Occupy is to get money out of politics. And stop allowing mega Corporations to control America's democracy.

Is this to hard of an idea for your dumb ass to understand?

POWER TO THE PEOPLE

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Livermore, CA

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#27
Nov 22, 2011
 
Orwell wrote:
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The above poster is a paid for propagandist working for an advertising Corporation. He wants you to have hate in your heart and is only trying to confuse the good people of America. Don't give yourself to this unnatural man. He wants to use you and tell you what to think.
The people are waking up to how America is ran by a Corporatocracy. Going to the voting booth every couple years to pick which Corporate puppet we want to lead America is not going to cut it anymore.
Occupy is to get money out of politics. And stop allowing mega Corporations to control America's democracy.
Is this to hard of an idea for your dumb ass to understand?
POWER TO THE PEOPLE
But Congress is corrupt, you cannot petition a corrupt body to reform itself. Who knows, even the voting process itself might be corrupted and under the control of some agency. Has there ever been an independent audit , providing transparent examination of results that could be verified by voters themselves? Think about it, there has never been such a process. People never know if elections are accurate. The official tallyers are themselves corporations who are dependent upon the State's scam and web of required accounting schemes. So they are not unbiased.

Let me explain my idea: simply, it would allow real oversight, not filtered through some crony corporation. With my verification system you'd be able to log in and verify what your vote is....and using social networking you could engage your entire group of friends, relatives, and other trusted associates to verify their votes as well.

The data set thus verified would grow in a viral fashion and would eventually reveal whether officially reported results are in fact legitimate. Obviously it would easiest to deploy for local and state elections, but can be used at any scale. In fact, the state scale is really as large as one needs to go, because of the electoral college.(Which another piece of state control that should be abolished because it results in tyranny of a simple majority)
Matthew

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#30
Nov 29, 2011
 
Umm... I'm intelligent enough to comprehend reality?
Orwell

Bowling Green, KY

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Nov 29, 2011
 
The Real Anon wrote:
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But Congress is corrupt, you cannot petition a corrupt body to reform itself. Who knows, even the voting process itself might be corrupted and under the control of some agency. Has there ever been an independent audit , providing transparent examination of results that could be verified by voters themselves? Think about it, there has never been such a process. People never know if elections are accurate. The official tallyers are themselves corporations who are dependent upon the State's scam and web of required accounting schemes. So they are not unbiased.
Let me explain my idea: simply, it would allow real oversight, not filtered through some crony corporation. With my verification system you'd be able to log in and verify what your vote is....and using social networking you could engage your entire group of friends, relatives, and other trusted associates to verify their votes as well.
The data set thus verified would grow in a viral fashion and would eventually reveal whether officially reported results are in fact legitimate. Obviously it would easiest to deploy for local and state elections, but can be used at any scale. In fact, the state scale is really as large as one needs to go, because of the electoral college.(Which another piece of state control that should be abolished because it results in tyranny of a simple majority)
Interesting proposition. I think your system would for sure be an improvement over how we are doing things right now.
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#34
Jan 11, 2012
 
"CORPORACRACY" IS "the Enemy of all humankind."

This title is nothing new. Just a different way to spell "SLAVE MASTERS".

When Law Enforcement, force each of their "TARGETS", to kneel in submission. Resembling force used by the "Masters Enforcers".

The gathering of our "American Patroits" gathering togather, assembling force against the KINGS Authority (which is all States Attorneys).

These Brave Americans are feed up with the "INDUCED MINIPULATION" of all humankind.

Our agreement(Constitution of the United States of America) has been BREACHED. There is no other choice but to "OCCUPY" and "FIGHT".

The origional Founders of America were "TERRORISTS", by the words of the Queen and the King of England. The Pilgrams were "TERRORISTS". by word of a KING.

As fires burn across this Nation. Insurance Corporations Pay. An Loyds of London and those, who are those, who have the GOLD, call the shots.

America will stand and fight for "Individual Freedom" to survive as one indepent self supporting Nation. Our "SOVERENTY" has been sold !

Rights go to INDIVDUALS FIRST before any Government. That is our agreement, THAT is our Right.

"OCCUPY"

LIBERTY IS FREEDOM
JRC

Livermore, CA

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#35
Jan 30, 2012
 
Dang hippies and paranoid bums. As long as the government does not take my guns, I'll be fine.

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