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Obama-Economy Debate - Denver, CO

Discuss the national Obama-Economy debate in Denver, CO.

Has Obama made the economy better or worse?

Denver says Obama's hurt the economy
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#1
Feb 6, 2012
 
He has slowed recovery with his manipulation of markets and interventionism and lack of tax certainty. People and investors need to know what things are going to cost! And his spending will cripple us for a long time to come.
BoKnows

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#2
Feb 6, 2012
 
Agreed, RM. This natural upward swing in hiring would have come sooner and would be more stable if businesses were more sure of the future. The jobs numbers have given Obama a boost, but the numbers aren't really an indicator of solid full time employment in markets that middle to upper-middle job seekers can restore their finances with. The EU is quiet right now, too. Look for things to take at least one dip before elections. Timing will be everything.
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#3
Feb 7, 2012
 
Ron Paul Warns Of Federal Reserve Power Grab

Not only was Obama’s appointment of Richard Cordray to the misnamed Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) unconstitutional, but the newly minted federal leviathan itself is in direct violation of Our Constitution, specifically the Tenth Amendment.

In January, Obama thumbed his nose at Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution. It states that the president “shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint” officers to the government.

But as Ron Paul notes in the video provided at the link below, the new agency – founded under the Federal Reserve dominated Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act – is itself an unconstitutional monster that will further degrade the financial health of Our country.

Cordray will act as a czar answerable not to the American People, but his masters at the Federal Reserve. Like an EU or Soviet era committee, the CFPB will be run by unelected commissars who will exercise extraordinary power. The agency is part of the Federal Reserve and its budget is not subject to congressional control or oversight.

http://theintelhub.com/2012/02/06/ron-paul-wa...

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#4
Feb 7, 2012
 
He made the economy better in the short term, but in the long run, he has screwed us. But he did not do it alone.

The Clinton Administration repealed Glass/Stegal, which allowed the banks to gamble with our money and bailed them out when they loss. The Bush administration started two Wars that were not paid for, so now we owe the Chinese and the FED our children's futures.
Truth Addict

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#5
Feb 7, 2012
 
Marvin in Denver wrote:
He made the economy better in the short term, but in the long run, he has screwed us. But he did not do it alone.
The Clinton Administration repealed Glass/Stegal, which allowed the banks to gamble with our money and bailed them out when they loss. The Bush administration started two Wars that were not paid for, so now we owe the Chinese and the FED our children's futures.
Everyone since Woodrow Wilson is at fault here...EXCEPT JFK.
Maurine Bocciarelli

Aurora, CO

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#7
Feb 8, 2012
 
He prevented a major depression nationwide.
Oblamer

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#8
Feb 8, 2012
 
There are less people working today than 3 years ago.

The unemployment drop is due to people lossing benefits and no longer being counted as unemployed despite being unemployed
Truth Addict

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#9
Feb 8, 2012
 
Maurine Bocciarelli wrote:
He prevented a major depression nationwide.
Care to back that up with any ACTUAL facts that actually count all the people that have GIVEN UP looking for work? Those jobs are not still there and what is worse is that the entitlement system will grow while we are actually hemorrhaging jobs.
Please tell me we DIDN'T lose 1 million jobs last month.
Regular Guy

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#10
Feb 9, 2012
 
The National debt is out of control, SS is now being underfunded, investors are being lied to by his administration, he is in contempt of the BP ruling while other countries drill off our coasts, money is siphoned off to the Middle East worse than even Bush did it, there is no tax certainty...a shorter list would be what he hasn't done to slow recovery.

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#11
Feb 9, 2012
 
his is one reason its so bad..Yopu are paying for this..
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/dr...

Obama passes "amnesty" act by Executive Order..
Let's move this forward and fast.
He'll do whatever it take to get the votes...
Be sure that you send this to everyone you know!

Obama passes amnesty by executive order
Written by Gil Guignat, Border & Immigration, Breaking News,

Last Friday, with no fanfare, no press coverage, and with every effort made to hide his actions from the American people, President Obama enacted the DREAM Act by executive order.

Opposed by a majority of the American people and twice defeated in Congress, the DREAM Act grants amnesty to any illegal alien residing in the United States if they agree to enlist in the U.S. Military or enter college.
The Obama administration memo from the John Morton, Director of I.C.E.(Immigration and Customs Enforcement) directs I.C.E. Agents now to use"prosecutorial discretion" with regard to enforcing immigration laws.
Director Morton says that Obama Administration policy directs border patrol agents not to enforce immigration laws: "When ICE favorably exercises prosecutorial discretion, it essentially decides not to assert the full scope of the enforcement authority available to the agency."

You read that right. According to the Obama administration "favorable"enforceme nt means NOT enforcing the law!
According to one of the first press reports to break this important story, the new Obama policy is cut and dry: "federal immigration officials do not have to deport illegal aliens if they are enrolled in any type of education program, if their family members have volunteered for U.S. Military service, or even if they are pregnant or nursing."

Arizona and the voter ID law
Just recently Obama's Department of Justice (DOJ) blocked Arizona from enforcing its voter ID law. Arizona is one if not the biggest portal of illegal immigration in the nation with half a million illegal aliens coming through the state annually. Arizona's Attorney General Tom Horne recently stated that he believed that blocking of the law facilitated massive voter fraud by illegal aliens.

"Attorney General Tom Horne accused the Obama administration Tuesday of trying to thwart Arizona's voter-ID laws in a bid to get more illegal immigrants to the polls - presumably to cast ballots for the president and Democrats.
Horne acknowledged that a brief filed by the Department of Justice in a case to be heard next month by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals centers around the agency's argument that Arizona's law requiring proof of citizenship to register is pre-empted by federal law. But Horne, a Republican, told Capitol Media Services he sees something more sinister." More.
The 2012 presidential elections

First we have amnesty passed by executive order then we have President Obama's DOJ blocking voter ID in Arizona . What could possibly be the president's motive?

This story has the potential to bring the Obama Administration to its knees. The momentum can be on our side and just e-mailing it to others can create a critical mass. Don't assume you have no power. You do!


If you wish to review the entire immigration directive, go to:.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/58465866/Prosecutor...



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#12
Feb 9, 2012
 
What did you expect from a Maoist, Socialist, Communist, Liberal, Progressive TOOL of the Bankster Elite? Give him four more years to fully destroy this Country...Mmm,mmm,mmm.
Be Aware

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#13
Feb 10, 2012
 
We started at a 5% unemployment at the start of his term and now we're at a reported 9% unemployment, not including people who have used up the unemployment benefits(+5%). With $800 billion of tax dollars spent already which didn't budge the real estate foreclosure failure he wants to spend more tax payer money?
Aggie Nostic

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#14
Feb 10, 2012
 
Yes, and he sent a letter to Congress two weeks ago demanding that they raise the ceiling again by $1.3 Trillion! The mainstream media kept that on the his-hush while posting fake jobs numbers to give him a boost. When I talk to decent people who support him they don't know all this- they only hear his propaganda vilifying those mean old conservatives while he robs them blind.
Morgan P

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#15
Feb 11, 2012
 
The ongoing recession is a result of decades of Reagan/Republican neoliberalism.
Syntax karltard

Denver, CO

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#17
Feb 11, 2012
 
SyntaxSpecialty wrote:
The economy was in free fall 3 years ago and the Obama administration caught it with a parachute from falling all the way.
Albeit the parachute has holes in it and isn't perfect it will do better with some mending and in 5 years from now after another win for Obama in November we will see this.
My prediction, my opinion so settle down all you neo-con tea party radicals and PLEASE save the rhetoric and insults.
Thank You
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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#19
Feb 11, 2012
 
Syntax karltard wrote:
LOL. That was good.....Anyway..To karl/syntax..It'll take a lot longer than that if we allow Obozo to continue his reign of redistribution of the working peoples money to the non working people..The only real way to make this economy better for the entire country is to release trade and industry sanctions so we can make money manufacturing and exporting. And then start training all those who have never worked and make them productive instead of a burden. And fire obozo and start the pipeline "right away"..The only way to American prosperity is to get someone else in the white house. Obozo is just a kid in a clubhouse..Not president material at all..
Syntax karltard

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Feb 11, 2012
 
SyntaxSpecialty wrote:
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Obviously you are just a puppet Fu.....k
when you can come up with something of substance please feel free to participate IF YOU HAVE HE BALLS of your conviction.
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“Righting the Left”

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Feb 11, 2012
 
SyntaxSpecialty wrote:
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SHUT UP.... YOU Un_EDUCATED pot heat WIND BAG
Karl..If anyone needs to smoke one and chill its you. You cant buy MY kind of education...I suggest you grab a drink and call one of your kids and ask them for some kind-buds..They can afford kind buds cant they ? If not then they are buying Mexican which is supporting cartels and drug trafficking..Kind buds are grown locally..In fact right here..Yep Karl..Medical weed grown right here and no connection to trafficking, cartels or drug dealers. Same way with Dispensaries..No connection to Mexican weed..Its not good enough to be medical weed....I love this country..And legally smoking pot and blowing it in your face..Im as legal as it gets and guess what ? You pay for it..I told you Im going to name my disability check after you..Well,, you buy the stuff to grow my weed too..Thanks Karl..I wuvs you..

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#25
Feb 11, 2012
 
SyntaxSpecialty wrote:
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you know what I'm going to ask you one question:
How personally has Obama made your SPECIFIC life any different? better or worse?
Don't give me generalizations on the economy the wars the point is how have YOU suffered?
You are an admitted marijuana user you are a collector of a Government disability check what else should US tax payers give you?
you VERY WELL COULD sit at a desk and do a JOB.......
How many wars did YOU fight for this Country???
My guess NONE......
it is because of people like you that think they are the only one DESERVING we are FU**ed....
I pay for you to FISH....give me a fuc***ing break
YOU SUCK
Karl..No need for the petty childish insults..I dont mind telling you things about me..I worked my ass off all my life building American homes.Ive worked injured for 25 years.. I worked as long as I could then started my own companies dealing with Homes and the housing market..Guess what..Homes arent being sold and home owners are losing them instead of selling them. This is just one way it has affected my life...Ive seen first hand what has happened to so many people losing their jobs and now homes..Its sickening..And Obama is to blame.He did the opposite of what he said he would do and redistributed wealth to those on welfare and fake farmers in Georgia and so many other scams of redistribution..I think he knows his days are numbered and he is just trying to give away as much money to the non working people as he can..Dont try to guess what I can and cant do..Some days I can barley walk. Some days I dont even limp. But Im sure it would make you happy to know that everyday and every hour Im in more pain than a person like you could handle..Id love to give it to you for a day..

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#26
Feb 20, 2012
 
healthcare down the tubes.. Debt not resolved. Plans suck

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