Obama-Marriage Debate - Oklahoma City, OK

hmmm I guess you just talk like a teenager.

antiatheist wrote:

mar you are just mad that nobody will marry you. You destroy the family and you destroy society mar. Why are people like yourself so easily lead down any path? I guess its because you are not grounded.

AntiA, when you submit to personal insults, that are based on pure speculation, all of your arguments lose credibility.

Not everyone wants to be married. That is not a sin. Yet they lead moral, productive lives and along the way, help many people.

Mar1980 wrote:

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As much as you would love to send people to hell, you can't.. Not now, not ever. Keep holding out for judgement day dude, I'll go ahead and live my life, the only one I get.. I personally don't know why anyone gay or straight would want to get married it's one of the biggest flops ever. The days of the virgin bride one partner for life are long gone. Marriage has evolved just like we have, hopefully it will be phased out.

Mar, nice to see you back. No, no one human has any judgement over another's soul.
You may change your mind on that marriage thing when you are older, but a single life can be just as fulfilling.
Still working whacky hours with whackier MD's?

take a joke local. Are you this serious in real life? Oh by the way, you should pull your head out of mars butt.

antiatheist wrote:

take a joke local. Are you this serious in real life? Oh by the way, you should pull your head out of mars butt.

Its okay we all know how childish and immature you are that it takes insults to even make an irrational reply.

antiatheist wrote:

take a joke local. Are you this serious in real life? Oh by the way, you should pull your head out of mars butt.

I really bet you're better than that remark, and it's stings of unChristian like behavior.

vanesa what you said makes no sense

notlocal wrote:

<quoted text>Mar, nice to see you back. No, no one human has any judgement over another's soul.
You may change your mind on that marriage thing when you are older, but a single life can be just as fulfilling.
Still working whacky hours with whackier MD's?

Hi!! Yes I'm still working like crazy :) Trying to ignore morons, was irritating me so I took a break from posting.. How have you been?

antiatheist wrote:

mar you are just mad that nobody will marry you. You destroy the family and you destroy society mar. Why are people like yourself so easily lead down any path? I guess its because you are not grounded.

You're wrong.. I'm sure you were indoctrinated by your parents, and share their same morals and beliefs. I'm not led by anybody not by god, society, and certainly not you!! How is allowing gay marriage going to ruin society?? Do you think that straight people are going to turn gay overnight and demand a same sex marriage. Is it going to affect your marriage ( if you have one)? The answer to all these questions is of course no, but I'm anxiously awaiting your response.

ha....funny how every time someone has values they were somehow "indoctrinated" by our parents. Sounds like someone should have taught you some values and you might not be the way you are today. To be honest, gay marriage or gayness was never even mentioned when I was growing up. I'm well over 40 so I'm more than capable of making my own decisions and judgments. Ooops i said it..........judgments. I know your kind doesn't like that word. Were you not taught anything as a kid or are you just the black sheep of your family.

Vanesa wrote:

The difference between Obama and Romney on this issue is quite clear.

I'm confused...Massachusetts was the first state to allow equal marriage rights during the term of Governor Romney. You sure their stand is clear?

Vinny Boombatz wrote:

<quoted text>I'm confused...Massachusetts was the first state to allow equal marriage rights during the term of Governor Romney. You sure their stand is clear?

Do you understand what I meant by clear? It is meant by their stances on the issue NOW. Not what he has done before. Romney is trying to come off as a conservative republican.

Mar1980 wrote:

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Hi!! Yes I'm still working like crazy :) Trying to ignore morons, was irritating me so I took a break from posting.. How have you been?

Good. Weather here has been outstanding. 75 to 80 and breezy. That will change overnightand we'll go to 90 and HUMID. Ugh.

Mar1980 wrote:

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You're wrong.. I'm sure you were indoctrinated by your parents, and share their same morals and beliefs. I'm not led by anybody not by god, society, and certainly not you!! How is allowing gay marriage going to ruin society?? Do you think that straight people are going to turn gay overnight and demand a same sex marriage. Is it going to affect your marriage ( if you have one)? The answer to all these questions is of course no, but I'm anxiously awaiting your response.

You know, you do have morals and values and you're led by your own conscience. Not a bad compass.

I am bewiltered by why Christians get so up in arms over gay marriage. I'm a Christian and I leave it to God. If a so called 'man of God' performs a marriage ceremony between two same sex partners, and brings God into it, God will take care of it. It's not my responsibility to judge anyone. I am surely not a non-sinner. There never was one except Jesus.

I DO NOT think it should be discussion for political fodder. It's stupid. Neither party can handle the flat out worldly issues. Why get into the secular where their opinions have no place or value?

And the 'who is carrying the more expensive handbag' discussion absolutely turns my stomach.

Changing the subject: Do you have stink bugs there?

Vinny Boombatz wrote:

<quoted text>I'm confused...Massachusetts was the first state to allow equal marriage rights during the term of Governor Romney. You sure their stand is clear?

I don't know what the law was. Did it allow equal rights, which are all available through civil procedures anyway, or require ministers, priests, etc. to perform a religious marriage ceremony between same sex partners?

Like I said, the equal rights have been there for same sex partners and anyone else forever. POA's, Medical POA's, joint ownership of property, wills.

People view 'marriage' differently. A marriage performed by a justice of the peace is fine for some, others want the churches blessing. That would be a decision for the church. Not government and I don't think either Obama or Romney are endorsing that.

why do Christians get "up in arms" about gay marriage? Because God has said homosexuality is wrong and Christians believe we should stand up for right and wrong. Simple as that. As a Christian I would think you would not support homosexuality. Seems like you are afraid to take a stand.

`They're human/people with feelings and they should be treated as a people with regard&fEELING and they should also have rights too,regarding as a People`We the People, Are the People, Of the People, For the People//".

as of now we all have the exact same rights. However, gays want special rights. Jim wants the right to marry ted and redefine a union that has existed for thousands of years.

notlocal wrote:

<quoted text>You know, you do have morals and values and you're led by your own conscience. Not a bad compass.

I am bewiltered by why Christians get so up in arms over gay marriage. I'm a Christian and I leave it to God. If a so called 'man of God' performs a marriage ceremony between two same sex partners, and brings God into it, God will take care of it. It's not my responsibility to judge anyone. I am surely not a non-sinner. There never was one except Jesus.

I DO NOT think it should be discussion for political fodder. It's stupid. Neither party can handle the flat out worldly issues. Why get into the secular where their opinions have no place or value?

And the 'who is carrying the more expensive handbag' discussion absolutely turns my stomach.

Changing the subject: Do you have stink bugs there?

Hi!! Yes still working like crazy. How have you been? I needed to take a break from debating with ignorant people, but I'm back. I agree with a lot of the things you say, and am glad you understand that people can have morals without being religious. Oklahoma can be a depressing place to live, and I'm looking to leave within the next couple of years. I used to think I should stay and try to change things, but I'm dusting my hands. I just feel like giving society the middle finger, and falling off the grid.. I'm not trying to sound negative, but I'm kinda down right now, anti a is a prime example of what I deal with on a daily basis. It wears you out. Someone is always looking for a fight instead of looking for a solution. I'm done... Yeah we have stink bugs, this winter was very mild so they are worse than usual.

awwwww are you sure you can't stay so you can change everyone? You must give yourself an awful lot of credit. Ever think that maybe its YOU with the problem? What has made you so bitter? Funny how you think that people with different opinions than you are ignorant. Shows your arrogance which is probably why most people don't care for you.