Obama-Marriage Debate - Lenoir City, TN

Most voters are against it every time it comes up. Liberal judges are the reason we keep talking about it anyway.

Yes, and I also agree that Common Core Standards initiatives and other centralization concepts are important to consider. I think this is a non-issue except it obviously is an issue for some? One issue that I would be more focused on would be CISPA, and if appropriate measures were intellectually taken to remedy technical issues with SOPA, PIPA, HR and et al. So to conclude, please stop not having equal rights, dear America, and focus on not having the internet flip out and make my smart fridge vomit ice cream everywhere, because I hate when it does that.

"Obama Marriage" The way I see it is if you look at it in the morning time when the morning dew is still on the roses and the glass is still in the sink and the bobcat has no place to sleep you can understand that if water run up hill and no one eat out any more there would be lots more reason to look at white power and not think it was red because sometimes early its hard to tell if you have any calls waiting or not and sometimes if I look out back when the swings are still moving and no one in them it makes me wonder and that is all I have to say about that

They should have civil union rights. Do not equate with traditional Biblical union between man and woman

The opening of the United States Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776, states as follows:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed;

Notice it does not say only straight people have these rights, but all men have these rights. The Bible may disagree, but the Bible (contrary to popular belief) is not the LAW in America. Marriage isn't something created by the Bible or by a supreme being. Many cultures have some sort of "marriage" that never was based upon some religious belief. If you believe the Bible, then follow it and don't get married to someone of the same sex. But to deny others their constitutional right to happiness based upon your beliefs is discriminatory. It's no different than the civil rights movement. We learned not to treat others different because of their race, why should we treat someone different because of their sexual orientation. Personally I could care less if two people get married, it's none of my business and it doesn't matter if it's a same-sex marriage or a man/woman marriage. The only marriage one should be concerned with is their own.

America was established on basic human rights and God given freedom.
We are now a nation of people who love America and love living in a free society but have "evolved " into a society of many different "worldviews."
We now struggle amongst ourselves as to where we draw the line between God given freedoms that come with certain responsibilities given to us in what most of us still consider God's "instruction book" the Holy Bible, and basic human rights expected by all who have the privilege of living in a free society.
It wouldn't be so difficult to separate the two if we could agree on the literal interpretation of the Bible the way we do on the literal interpretation of the Constitution.

Yea Albert. But there is good and there is evil in this world.
Some of these people say they dont believe in evil. Go figure.

You have cited the Declaration of independence very well. Our system of rights and laws is based on our Constitution.
Every American should enjoy the same Constitutional rights.
Same sex couples should enjoy the same rights to share their lives as a heterosexual couple enjoys.
No Jewish or Christian church denomination or minister should be compelled to perform a religious ceremony that would violate his personal faith conviction derived from his literal interpretation of the Bible.
If the same sex couple can find a minister who is willing to perform a religious ceremony then let it be legal in the eyes of the law, and between the couple the minister and God to judge the moral aspects of their marriage.

Marriage is not a religious institution. It is a legal contract. You can be married by a Justice of the Peace, a Judge or even a Notary. If you get divorced you don't have to get permission from your place of worship. You have to go through the legal system. God is in your heart, and it is your CHOICE to have him in your marriage.

Your marriage is your business. Who marries who is not your business.

Equality

Anything Obummer is for I am against.

Amazed wrote:

Anything Obummer is for I am against.

Pure and simple political move to garner more votes. Typical politician in the filthiest version of the word. Typical same old Sickcago politics in the white house with a darker hue. Funny how a man in his late 40's suddenly realizes he's pro gay marriage. This obvious political flip flop should piss everyone off. Shows pure and simple he deserves no trust.

Its a sad day. His true colors have been seen. One minute when he runs for Senate he supports same sex marriage, then when he runs for president he doesnt, and now its time for re-election and he does. Gay rights folks you better beware when you vote he might change his mind if he gets re-elected. Where does he stand?

Reading this you would think people are amazed that a politician would change positions on a controversial subject. C'mon people, Obama isn't the first politician to flip-flop on an issue. I think it's a job requirement for politicians to lie and flip-flop on issues.

The sanity clause found in most contracts: "If either party shall be found to be of unsound mind, the terms of this contract shall be null and void."

Marriage is a legal contract. If only one person is of unsound mind the contract is void. With gay marriage you have, not one, but TWO mentally ill people entering a contract.

Question wrote:

The opening of the United States Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776, states as follows:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed;
Notice it does not say only straight people have these rights, but all men have these rights. The Bible may disagree, but the Bible (contrary to popular belief) is not the LAW in America. Marriage isn't something created by the Bible or by a supreme being. Many cultures have some sort of "marriage" that never was based upon some religious belief. If you believe the Bible, then follow it and don't get married to someone of the same sex. But to deny others their constitutional right to happiness based upon your beliefs is discriminatory. It's no different than the civil rights movement. We learned not to treat others different because of their race, why should we treat someone different because of their sexual orientation. Personally I could care less if two people get married, it's none of my business and it doesn't matter if it's a same-sex marriage or a man/woman marriage. The only marriage one should be concerned with is their own.

The gay thing is not comparable to the civil rights movement?

Martin Luther King Jr. was black because both of his parents were black.
You are not a queer because both of your parents were queers. How obvious is that?

And if you literally believe in Jefferson's words that "all men are created equal", then go ahead and tell us you can solve calculus and physics problems as well as Albert Einstein could.

If anything is obvious in this life it is that all men are NOT created equal. If you're Bill Gates' equal then go start you a $30 billion business.

The Real Goose wrote:

<quoted text>The gay thing is not comparable to the civil rights movement?
Martin Luther King Jr. was black because both of his parents were black.
You are not a queer because both of your parents were queers. How obvious is that?
And if you literally believe in Jefferson's words that "all men are created equal", then go ahead and tell us you can solve calculus and physics problems as well as Albert Einstein could.
If anything is obvious in this life it is that all men are NOT created equal. If you're Bill Gates' equal then go start you a $30 billion business.

Let's not forget that part of the civil rights movement was the issue of interracial marriage. Not just granting equal rights to minorities, but also the choice to marry someone of "gasp" another race. Can't have that in the South now can we.

As for Biblical marriage, King Solomon had over 700 wives and 300 concubines. How about Deuteronomy 22:28-29 where a rape victim is supposed to marry her rapist after the rapist pays her father some coin. Is that the type of marriages you support? After all it's in the Bible.

You're obviously misunderstanding the "all men are created equal" statement. I have as much right to do the same as Einstein or Bill Gates. Of course I don't have Einstein's IQ or Bill Gates money. But just because someone is richer or smarter than someone else, does not make him/her a better person or entitled to special privileges. In the eyes of the law we are all equal. To treat someone differently because of race, gender, social status, or sexual orientation is wrong. Even Jesus knew that.

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Let's not forget that part of the civil rights movement was the issue of interracial marriage. Not just granting equal rights to minorities, but also the choice to marry someone of "gasp" another race. Can't have that in the South now can we.
As for Biblical marriage, King Solomon had over 700 wives and 300 concubines. How about Deuteronomy 22:28-29 where a rape victim is supposed to marry her rapist after the rapist pays her father some coin. Is that the type of marriages you support? After all it's in the Bible.
You're obviously misunderstanding the "all men are created equal" statement. I have as much right to do the same as Einstein or Bill Gates. Of course I don't have Einstein's IQ or Bill Gates money. But just because someone is richer or smarter than someone else, does not make him/her a better person or entitled to special privileges. In the eyes of the law we are all equal. To treat someone differently because of race, gender, social status, or sexual orientation is wrong. Even Jesus knew that.

Equal treatment is not the same as actual equality.
Jefferson wrote "all men are created equal", which was asserting actual equality. It is an absurd statement.

And the Declaration of Independence is NOT the law. It was merely a "Declaration of War if King George wants one" statement. Those words "all men are created equal" are not found in the constitution.

Equal rights under the law. Basic human rights life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
Those who are so determined to have the laws in America changed to support their personal lifestyle are the ones usually advocating the right of a pregnant woman to take away the life of a baby in the womb and deprive him/her of any future life at all.