Obama-Marriage Debate - Independence, KS

Discuss the national Obama-Marriage debate in Independence, KS.

Are you with President Obama in supporting gay marriage?

Independence is with Obama on gay marriage.
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#21
May 17, 2012
 
TheCataclysmicAbyss wrote:
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That is still separating the two. Would you be for calling all females positions in the workforce something different than male positions? Even if they are the exact same thing?
Who cares what you call it as long as everyone has equal rights and are treated fairly. "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"
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Independence, KS

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#22
May 20, 2012
 
Love is Love , no matter who with.
Everyone has their own opinion , but they are not harming you , so why let it bother you?
Let them live their life the way they want to.

Gay Pride. <3
RHW

Independence, KS

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#23
May 20, 2012
 
right thing to do
Old hippie

Wichita, KS

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#24
May 20, 2012
 
Yes, as long as people are happy. It's none of my business. I'm all for gay marriage!
Old hippie

Wichita, KS

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#25
May 20, 2012
 
straightnmarried wrote:
Let's see. where to start, immoral, there is a biblical stance on this, sickening, to name a few
So, did you wake up one morning and say to yourself "I think I'll be heterosexual?" Sure, I didn't think so. Well, guess what...homosexuals didn't either! We are all born how we are. You appear to be a very closed minded person. I have a few gay friends and we talk in depth about these issues. Everyone of my gay friends knew at a VERY young age that they were gay, or "different" because they were too young to know what gay meant. We are all just a tiny speck in this huge universe. Why not just be happy? Be happy that others are happy! I hope that you are happy with your life!

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#26
May 22, 2012
 
Simple...Read Your Bible.

Since: Nov 11

Wichita, KS

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#27
May 22, 2012
 
What are some of the differences between Civil Unions and Gay Marriage?

Recognition in other states: Even though each state has its own laws around marriage, if someone is married in one state and moves to another, their marriage is legally recognized. For example, Oregon marriage law applies to people 17 and over. In Washington state, the couple must be 18 to wed. However, Washington will recognize the marriage of two 17 year olds from Oregon who move there. This is not the case with Civil Unions and Domestic Partnerships. If someone has a Domestic Partnership, that union is recognized by some states and not others. Some states have even ruled that they do not have to recognize civil unions performed in other states, because their states have no such legal category. As gay marriages become legal in other states, this status may change.

Immigration:

A United States citizen who is married can sponsor his or her non-American opposite-sex spouse for immigration into this country. Those with Civil Unions have no such privilege. Even legally married gay and lesbian couples cannot sponsor their spouses for immigration because of the Defense of Marriage (DOMA) law.

Taxes:

Civil Unions are not recognized by the federal government, so couples would not be able to file joint-tax returns or be eligible for tax breaks or protections the government affords to married couples. Again, because of DOMA, same-sex couples have to file single on their federal tax returns.

Benefits:

The General Accounting Office in 1997 released a list of 1,049 benefits and protections available to heterosexual married couples. These benefits range from federal benefits, such as survivor benefits through Social Security, sick leave to care for ailing partner, tax breaks, veterans benefits and insurance breaks. They also include things like family discounts, obtaining family insurance through your employer, visiting your spouse in the hospital and making medical decisions if your partner is unable to. Civil Unions protect some of these rights, but not all of them.

But canít a lawyer set all this up for gay and lesbian couples?

No. A lawyer can set up some things like durable power of attorney, wills and medical power of attorney. There are several problems with this, however.


1. It costs thousands of dollars in legal fees. A simple marriage license, which usually costs under $100 would cover all the same rights and benefits.


2. Any of these can be challenged in court. As a matter of fact, more wills are challenged than not. In the case of wills, legal spouses always have more legal power than any other family member.


3. Marriage laws are universal. If someoneís husband or wife is injured in an accident, all you need to do is show up and say youíre his or her spouse. You will not be questioned. If you show up at the hospital with your legal paperwork, the employees may not know what to do with you. If you simply say, "He's my husband," you will immediately be taken to your spouse's side.
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#28
May 27, 2012
 
Because it's not the Lords way. The Lords way is between 1 man and 1 women. Gay marage is for those that have issues and problems with there heads. They will be punished by God for their Choses when the time comes and this is what Satin want's.
Obama must be Gay too.

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Wichita, KS

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May 27, 2012
 
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Wichita, KS

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#30
May 27, 2012
 
Nick wrote:
Because it's not the Lords way. The Lords way is between 1 man and 1 women. Gay marage is for those that have issues and problems with there heads. They will be punished by God for their Choses when the time comes and this is what Satin want's.
Obama must be Gay too.
WOW!!! REALLY our CHOSES???? What the hell is that?? Does your shift key get stuck at times? So you also have "1 women" the number one is singular, but then women is plural. So what is it, 1 woman? Or several women? Also I have a question as to what a gay marage is? If you want to get on and bash people for their lives be prepared to get bashed back for your ignorance. Spell check and common sense goes a long ways. I'm looking forward to your next rant of stupidity.
lawry

Independence, KS

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#31
May 27, 2012
 
Educated wrote:
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WOW!!! REALLY our CHOSES???? What the hell is that?? Does your shift key get stuck at times? So you also have "1 women" the number one is singular, but then women is plural. So what is it, 1 woman? Or several women? Also I have a question as to what a gay marage is? If you want to get on and bash people for their lives be prepared to get bashed back for your ignorance. Spell check and common sense goes a long ways. I'm looking forward to your next rant of stupidity.
Ignorance, like that of the user you are responding too, will continue to persist as long as people are willing to base their ethical opinions on bronze age texts of unknown origins written my ancient goat herders.

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