Obama-Marriage Debate - Folsom, CA

None of the original 13 colonies had separation of church and state. None would have supported gay marriage. We've become secular and have re-written history. Thanksgiving means thanks to God, not Turkeys. Marriage is a man+woman union before God.

There is no reason to vote against gay marriage. Marriage is non-religious and if you are against it you are a bigot.

"Marriage is non-religious and if you are against it you are a bigot."

A perfect revisionist example.

Ian wrote:

None of the original 13 colonies had separation of church and state. None would have supported gay marriage. We've become secular and have re-written history. Thanksgiving means thanks to God, not Turkeys. Marriage is a man+woman union before God.

Do you have proof that none would have supported gay marriage? Thanksgiving has nothing to do with god. Marriage has nothing to do with god. Stop trying to force your imaginary best friend into reality

"Thanksgiving has nothing to do with god."

That's another revisionist idea!

From wikipedia:

Thanksgiving proclamations were made mostly by church leaders in New England up until 1682, and then by both state and church leaders until after the American Revolution. During the revolutionary period, political influences affected the issuance of Thanksgiving proclamations. Various proclamations were made by royal governors, John Hancock, General George Washington, and the Continental Congress, each giving thanks to God for events favorable to their causes. As President of the United States, George Washington proclaimed the first nation-wide thanksgiving celebration in America marking November 26, 1789, "as a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favours of Almighty God".

Ian wrote:

"Thanksgiving has nothing to do with god."
That's another revisionist idea!
From wikipedia:
Thanksgiving proclamations were made mostly by church leaders in New England up until 1682, and then by both state and church leaders until after the American Revolution. During the revolutionary period, political influences affected the issuance of Thanksgiving proclamations. Various proclamations were made by royal governors, John Hancock, General George Washington, and the Continental Congress, each giving thanks to God for events favorable to their causes. As President of the United States, George Washington proclaimed the first nation-wide thanksgiving celebration in America marking November 26, 1789, "as a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favours of Almighty God".

I looked it up on a different website as I don't trust wikipedia but it said a similar thing. I stand corrected. Thanksgiving has lost all religious significance though through the years.

"I looked it up on a different website as I don't trust wikipedia but it said a similar thing. I stand corrected."

If you've come out of our public education system in the last 20 years, you've been taught a lot of other revised and altered interpretations of this county's HUGE religious history. Did you know that ALL of the original 13 colonies had official, state religions?
http://undergod.procon.org/view.resource.php...

Correction - All the colonies officially supported religion. Only eight of the thirteen had official religions.