Obama-Marriage Debate - Columbus, OH

Nytebreid wrote:

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That is certainly hard to argue with... since I have no idea what you're babbling about.
"...that were stupid enough to beleive 2 is the correct answer to the equation..."
When I went to school, 1+1 DID equal 2.

sorry you were unable to make the connection.

glad that you understand basic math though.

maybe you should re-read; and see if you make the connection this time around.

Reality Speaks wrote:

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baptism
who did that punch feel?

Baptism is wholly unregulated by the government.

Reality Speaks wrote:

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really?
the list of acts considered treason grows.
keep your head up your azz. It is better than a burka.

Ah, you have a list of impeachable offenses that have been committed by our President?

And evidence?

FKA Reader wrote:

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Baptism is wholly unregulated by the government.

you're kidding me? really?

try to keep up, I was asked to name one thing the Church had a say in.

people like you are a disgrace to this country.

FKA Reader wrote:

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Ah, you have a list of impeachable offenses that have been committed by our President?
And evidence?

yes...you will see them at his trial.

Reality Speaks wrote:

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yes...you will see them at his trial.

Cute way of saying you have no idea.

FKA Reader wrote:

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Cute way of saying you have no idea.

no...it is saying I won't waste my time.

FKA Reader wrote:

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Cute way of saying you have no idea.

Here's what they've got so far: He's not white, his name sounds funny, he's actually presiding a little further right than Bush did...more to come

"Kosmik"
Here's what they've got so far: He's not white, his name sounds funny,

thats what scares the mental midgets,that and their own shadow

Reality Speaks wrote:

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no...it is saying I won't waste my time.

Seems you are very willing and able to waste time spouting off. You get too busy when it comes to backing up what you say.

Kosmik wrote:

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Here's what they've got so far: He's not white, his name sounds funny, he's actually presiding a little further right than Bush did...more to come

Cool. Now all they need to do is to rewrite the Constitution to make those things impeachable offenses.

I'm not holding my breath.

FKA Reader wrote:

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Ah, you have a list of impeachable offenses that have been committed by our President?
And evidence?

List of Obama's Impeachable Offenses is Growing

July 9, 2011 • 8:36AM

Rep. Tim Scott (R-Ga.) said on July 5 that if President Obama should invoke a clause in the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution in order to bypass Congress and borrow beyond the debt limit, he would consider that an act worthy of impeachment.

"This President is looking to usurp Congressional oversight to find a way to get it done without us.

My position is that is an impeachable act from my perspective," Scott said at a Tea Party-related meeting. Rep. Pete Olson (R-Tex.) later told an interviewer that Scott's "is not a lonely voice," and that others are also discussing impeachment.

What Obama and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner are in fact doing, is using the threat of default, or of preventing default by using Clause 4 of the 14th Amendment, in order to protect London's and Wall Street's illegitimate debt.

Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner have done everything in their power to oppose the Constitutional method of dealing with the debt—the restoration of Glass-Steagall—and are instead using the threat of default to ram through killer austerity, in violation of the Constitution's commitment to the general welfare.

This is but the latest in a long series of impeachable offenses committed by Obama:

Most recent is his flagrant violation of the U.S. Constitution and the War Powers Resolution by deploying U.S. armed forces and conducting war against Libya without Congressional authorization or a declaration of war. Indeed, Obama has insisted that a United Nations resolution authorizing "humanitarian intervention" is a higher authority than the United States Constitution.

Already in April 2009, Obama was engaging in actions to destroy the sovereignty of the United States, when, at the London G20 meeting, he agreed to actions, including the expansion of "Special Drawing Rights," which gave the International Monetary Fund increased power over the economy of the United States and other sovereign nations.

Obama's shutdown and destruction of the NASA manned space flight program, on behalf of the British, was what triggered Lyndon LaRouche's first formal call for the impeachment of Obama, in February 2010.

Obama's health-care plan, modeled on Hitler's T-4 policy, in its scheme to deny medical care and treatment to certain categories of people, constitutes a crime against humanity under the Nuremberg Principles to which the United States is bound by law and treaty.

Obama's violation of the separation of powers, by means of unilateral executive actions, in violation of U.S. law including treaty law, has exceeded even that of George W. Bush and Cheney in many respects.

He has continued the use of signing statements, and has made dozens of appointments of special "czars" and recess appointments, to circumvent Congressional oversight and the Senate confirmation process.

He has expanded domestic surveillance and wiretapping, has continued the use of abusive detentions and interrogations of prisoners taken in the "war on terror," and he has expanded the use of targeted assassinations, including claiming the right to kill American citizens abroad without any due process.

He has effectively legalized torture and prisoner abuse in violation of U.S. law and treaty obligations, by directing his Justice Department to cover up hundreds of cases of abuse and torture and even deaths, from the Bush-Cheney years.

FKA Reader wrote:

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Seems you are very willing and able to waste time spouting off. You get too busy when it comes to backing up what you say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Judge Andrew Napolitano: Obama's Impeachable Offenses Mount - Alex Jones Tv 1/3

http://larouchepac.com/node/21604

On August 4, 2011, in the midst of his unconstitutional war against Libya, the treasonous British puppet President Barack Obama, issued National Study Directive #10, ordering the creation of "an Interagency Atrocities Prevention Board," to institutionalize mechanisms and procedures for unending, anti-Constitutional United States overseas wars in the name of "preventing genocide." With NSD #10, Obama set into motion the formal restructuring of U.S. foreign policy and intelligence institutions along lines required by its would-be new status as an abject satrap of the British Monarchy.

The British not only have their hand directly on our nuclear trigger, but also here, too, in restructuring our military. As Executive Intelligence Review documented in its May 6, 2011 issue, an entire international apparatus has been built up since Tony Blair's 1999 speech, dedicated to imposing his "R2P" end-of-sovereignty doctrine, largely financed and heavily staffed by Britain's dope-pusher moneybags, vulture speculator George Soros. This is the project Obama advisor Samantha Power and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice have been working on for a decade; Obama's National Security Staff Director for War Crimes and Atrocities, David Pressman, encharged with overseeing the creation of the board, was an activist in the British-Power-Rice anti-Sudan campaign implemented under this doctrine.

imagine2011 wrote:

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List of Obama's Impeachable Offenses is Growing
July 9, 2011 • 8:36AM
Rep. Tim Scott (R-Ga.) said on July 5 that if President Obama should invoke a clause in the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution in order to bypass Congress and borrow beyond the debt limit, he would consider that an act worthy of impeachment.
"This President is looking to usurp Congressional oversight to find a way to get it done without us.
My position is that is an impeachable act from my perspective," Scott said at a Tea Party-related meeting.

I LOVE it! Invoking powers granted in the Constitution is now an impeachable offense?

Ever think why such a power might be there in the first place? Maybe because it might sometime be necessary for the President to act to ensure payment of the nation's bills in the face of either inaction of the inability of Congress to arrive at a decision?

However, it's a red herring. It wasn't necessary. Congress showed themselves willing to drive up to the very edge of that cliff, but did not actually go over the edge.

Say thank you God!

imagine2011 wrote:

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Obama's shutdown and destruction of the NASA manned space flight program, on behalf of the British, was what triggered Lyndon LaRouche's first formal call for the impeachment of Obama, in February 2010.

Lyndon Larouche--now there's a crazy who goes way back!

I believe that the end of the manned space flight program was put in place under Bush. My impression is that Obama would have loved to rescue it. But that ain't gonna happen without cooperation and funding from Congress.

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Obama's health-care plan, modeled on Hitler's T-4 policy, in its scheme to deny medical care and treatment to certain categories of people, constitutes a crime against humanity under the Nuremberg Principles to which the United States is bound by law and treaty.

Balderdash. Obama's health-care plan was modeled on the Republican Plan first bandied about under Clinton. Closest actual model is the Massachussetts Plan, enacted under Mitt Romney.

BTW--how is it that you feel bound by the Nurenburg Principles but not by Humanitarian Agreements through the United Nations?

Is the President not expected to honor agreements of our nation with other nations or groups of nations? And if not--when is is required and when is it not required?

FKA Reader wrote:

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Seems you are very willing and able to waste time spouting off. You get too busy when it comes to backing up what you say.

why do I need to back up what is known fact by the majority?

I mean really.

the little game fast & furious that was intended to start a gun control program that killed a border agent is one.

Giving billions of taxpayer money to the UAW in ownership of GM is the largest theft of public money recorded ever by a govt official.

But Nixon was the crook for taping conversations.....right?

imagine2011 wrote:

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He has expanded domestic surveillance and wiretapping, has continued the use of abusive detentions and interrogations of prisoners taken in the "war on terror," and he has expanded the use of targeted assassinations, including claiming the right to kill American citizens abroad without any due process.
He has effectively legalized torture and prisoner abuse in violation of U.S. law and treaty obligations, by directing his Justice Department to cover up hundreds of cases of abuse and torture and even deaths, from the Bush-Cheney years.

No--not quite expanded. Lost the fight to scale it back. And refused to jeopardize our national defense by vetoeing NDAA as sent to him by Congress.

And he has legalized torture by covering up torture committed by Bush-Cheney? Wow. That one gets pretty twisty. Seems like a lot of cases have been dealt with--and the public is pretty aware of what Cheney thinks about torture. Were Bush-Cheney committing impeachable offenses? Why weren't they impeached?

FKA Reader wrote:

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Balderdash. Obama's health-care plan was modeled on the Republican Plan first bandied about under Clinton. Closest actual model is the Massachussetts Plan, enacted under Mitt Romney.
BTW--how is it that you feel bound by the Nurenburg Principles but not by Humanitarian Agreements through the United Nations?
Is the President not expected to honor agreements of our nation with other nations or groups of nations? And if not--when is is required and when is it not required?

we do not EVER have to listen to the UN.

without the USA, there is no UN.

Clear enough for you?

Reality Speaks wrote:

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why do I need to back up what is known fact by the majority?
I mean really.
the little game fast & furious that was intended to start a gun control program that killed a border agent is one.
Giving billions of taxpayer money to the UAW in ownership of GM is the largest theft of public money recorded ever by a govt official.
But Nixon was the crook for taping conversations.....right?

Ummmm, yeah. Illegal wiretapping is, you know, illegal. Using it to help get rep-elected was slimy. A crook? Well, that was Mr, Nixon's word, wasn't it?

Perhaps you would care to put Fast and Furious in context by comparing it to Iran-Contra under Reagan. Remember the key question--what did the President know and when did he know it? And pile that on top of the reality that the gun sales to Contras was to support a war that did not have the approval of Congress.

But the GM bailout was by the book. You may disagree, but calling it theft is just wrong.