Obama-Marriage Debate - Blairsville, GA
Discuss the national Obama-Marriage debate in Blairsville, GA.
Are you with President Obama in supporting gay marriage?
|Yes, all the way||
|Not at all||
|I'm on the fence||
#1 May 10, 2012
Love the sinner, hate the sin. George Washington did not create the institution off marriage. My God did. If I supported gay marriage, I believe He would be saddened by my action. This country was founded under God, and I will support it until it is not.
I love my mom and my cat but you don't see me marrying them, do you? God has been taken out of enough. Keep going and my Jesus will straighten it out, no doubt.
#3 May 10, 2012
The below link provided by AGOG...video and audio..
The below link provided by me.......audio only
To me both of these issues are tied together, along with the poster's message who created this thread, because the fringe elements are the ones pushing for all these changes to our constitution and Obama is nothing more than a leader for them.
Since: Apr 12
Saint Petersburg, FL
#4 May 10, 2012
I ain't crazzy about homos myself,but I don't believe there is such as hating the sin but loving the sinner.There is obviously much hate associated with homos and religion.Do you think people are born homosexual?I ask a lot questions, just as defence lawyers do,so I feel secure that I know the answer.Do you ever wonder why god allows homosexuals to be born? He is in charge of everything ,isn't he?IF you answer that question there is free will,i'd like to inform you that there is no mention of such in either of your bibles.What Christians claim as free will is negated by the fact there is a consequence involved.I think to many Christians look at others to much and should examine themselves more.There has been homosexual people about as long as there has been people.Don't you believe that ,allowing there is really no free will,Why do you think your god allows such nasty and horrible people to exist?I personally don't know all homos and there are none in my family tree,so I am not defending any.
#5 May 10, 2012
Now if the Black Churches take the same stand in the link below when the Nov elections come, we can say bye-bye to Obama, a empty suit that walks around.
#6 May 10, 2012
I believe the thread was created by Topix rather than an individual poster. They do that from time to time.
Since: Apr 12
Saint Petersburg, FL
#7 May 10, 2012
I have mixed feelings about homosexuals having the same rights in their marriage unions as heterosexuals.
#8 May 10, 2012
#9 May 10, 2012
The Union County Sheriff's office announced TODAY the formation of a new 10-man elite fighting unit called the Union County Redneck SWAT Homo Hunters.(UCRSHH).
These mostly Southern boys will be dropped off into any known homosexual hangouts and will be given only the following facts about the homosexuals:
1. The season opened today.
2. There is no limit.
3. They taste just like chicken.
4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music,
5. They are directly responsible for the death
of Dale Earnhardt.
#10 May 10, 2012
Obama is dividing the nation even further.
The majority voted against same-sex marriage, but it doesn't appear that makes a damn bit of difference these days.
#11 May 10, 2012
Gay Marriage. Where was Obama when he could have done something about it? Again and again, the President seeks to divide the nation, chiming in on the issue of Gay Marriage, only AFTER the North Carolina citizenry resoundingly rejected the proposal. To all my gay friends out there...let's tell Mr. Obama, that being gay is not the same as being stupid. We can support equal rights for gay men and women, without selling out to a total failure of executive policy
#12 May 10, 2012
USCO I believe I would have left out the part about tastin like chicken. No way in hell im gonna eat one.
#13 May 10, 2012
Gay's need to stop and think... if that is the way it was meant to be then NO ONE would be on this earth.. it takes a man and a woman to produce off spring. Now our president condons such actions ???... sad day in America.. This country is going to hell and people need to wake up.. I use to be proud to be American but with all the evil crazy things on the news EVERYDAY... its so sad...American's need to straighten up and unite and get this country back on track.. Drugs have taken over and apparently has affected peoples minds.. People killing people, priests, teachers, and those we use to think we could trust around our children we find we no longer can. Grown men and women killing babies, raping children etc. What is going on? The president needs to make the laws tuffer on these idiots and stop concentrating on gays just so that he can try to get more votes. It is all about politics and not about the people anymore. I don't care what othes do with their lives they are the ones that have to answer for it but when the evil affects everyone in the long run then I have a problem with it. Just my opinion.
#14 May 10, 2012
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: Well, it surely the first time in scientific history that evolution has been accelerated by an upcoming election. I don't think that's never been recorded before. And granting the president the cynicism, you know, the need to do this for electoral reasons, withholding donations from gay rights activists, etc. and the gaffe that Biden made to accelerate this. Granted all that, I give him credit for what he said.
I think that the two sides in this debate, as in abortion, as in a lot of other unresolvable social issues deserve respect. Those who believe in traditional marriage under the theory, a rather good one, that's it has been the mainstay institution for human society forever until yesterday. And tampering with it ought to invoke a lot of trepidation and those who like Obama express sympathy with people of same sex who yearn to have what heterosexuals have. I understand that.
But there's one thing that I wish the president had done, which is to say which is now his side of the debate, show a little respect for the other side. Because as we saw with Prop 9, and other referendums on gay rights, those people who oppose gay marriage are demonized by the pro-side as bigots, as haters and often suffer boycotts and worse. Whereas I think he ought to say to the country, a difficult decision, each side ought to respect the other and not demonize them.
#15 May 10, 2012
CAN YOU KEPT ACOG OUT OF THE PICTURE ONCE?
#16 May 10, 2012
The hot topic in headline news, blogs and social media is Obama’s support of gay marriage. As a christian woman and as a mother of a gay daughter who serves in the military, I have my own opinion and belief in it. They sometimes conflict when I avoid the greatest command. To FIRST love. It may not be popular and it may ruffle the feathers of christians and unbelievers alike, but it is my reality. I am willing to stand in front of God in full transparency to be held accountable on my stance.
I am a follower of Christ therefore I and my children are covered under GRACE not LAW as it is our sin that qualifies us for grace, not our righteousness.(Refer to Galatians 2:21)
I also believe that love covers a multitude of sins.(Refer to 1 Peter 4:8) The word “covering” is like a blanket that protects you from the cold or an umbrella protecting you from the rain. So when scripture says LOVE covers a multitude of sins, then that means that your display of love will provide a sheild. If giving love protects, then imagine what withholding it can do. Then go a step further and imagine what hate, anger, and bitterness can do. It will keep those we are called to love to be open, naked, vulnerable and exposed.
You see, love is an activator. God is love and God is in spirit so those who worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth. With that being said, that let’s us know that love is a spirit that lives within so when we display it, it awakens the spirit of the one we display it to. If we display hate, it casuses the spirit of the one we display it to to hide.
When Mary arrived with the news that she was carrying Jesus, the unborn John the Baptist leaped for joy in His mother womb. Mary was carrying LOVE in the flesh in her womb and it activated the spirit of his cousin, John the Baptist and he lept for joy, as the prince of peace who was about to be delivered would bring deliverence to all.(Refer to Luke 1:41)
I learned this lesson as both a babe in Christ and as a mother. Several years ago when my daughter informed me that she is homosexual, I, just as many christians do, they go ballistic and raise the bible rebuking demons in the name of Jesus scaring the life out of the one that just came to you with their heart and soul on the floor. Ironically, I also happened to be a baby Christian at the time. In the midst of all of this rebuking and condemnation, I forgot to LOVE my daughter. After I tried the rebuking/condemning her in my ignorance, I finally prayed to God for answers. To be honest, I guess I was more worried about my image or “her soul” but love is not self-seeking nor is judging where she spends eternity my job as a mother. It is to love and cover her. God determines where her soul goes.As her mother I am to protect and cover her first and through that it will ignite her holy spirit within. Will that ever change her? I don’t know. What happens from there is between her and God. You cannot force salvation. God showed me to FIRST love her and He’ll take of the rest. This is where my faith in God as a mother comes in. I have to trust God with my child...
#17 May 10, 2012
My job is to guide her, protect her, expose her to the truth and LOVE her. Condemning her will push her not only away from me, but the God that I serve and leave her naked and exposed without covering. 1 Corinthians 13 tells us that love is perfect, kind, forgiving, it is gentle, it turns away wrath, it does not provoke, it protects, it hopes and it does not rejoice in evil but in truth. Loving my daughter is not rejoicing in evil nor is it accepting sin as a part of her or me but it’s holding on to God’s promise that love is so very powerful and potent that it will open up the hardest of hearts. Love never fails. My daughter and my GOD taught me that.
I prayed that just in case I chased my daughter away from God with my hardened heart, please allow her to meet someone in the Army that might re-introduce her to Him, just in case I shamed Him. And guess what, she did.
Now before I jumped on by the super-christians who use homosexuaility as the sexual sin scapegoat, let me ask you:
How many of us comforted a man or a woman going through a divorce? Visited an unwed mother and her newborn at the hospital or attended her baby shower? Attended the wedding or had dinner with a couple in their home where that have been cohabitating? How many of us personally have been in the situations above?
It’s all the same. In condemning the homosexuals, the adulterors and fornicators fly under the radar attempting to evade their own truth (hidden sins) by forcing others truth (exposed sins) down their throats. And many can be quite hateful.
We must FIRST love others and through that bond, introduce the truth. They will listen to those who display love. Jesus used the word love four times in the greatest command. I choose to follow Christ and someone I love dearly does not, I still respect their decision just as Jesus accepted others decisions. But He is there waiting hoping one day, they may submit with LOVING arms just as we should. Some of my closest friends are those of another faith. Hindu and Muslim or homosexual and even athiest’s. I have learned so much about people through loving them. They love to open up and talk to me about Christ and maybe one day, my ACTIONS will allow them to accept Him.
I still love my fornicating friends and family, homosexual daughter, and those who have been married and divorced several times as well as all of multitude of single moms. In loving them, when they are faced with the repercussions, guess who they call? Then I take that opportunity to tell them what Christ did for me and what He could do for them. I have to remember my own battle with the bondage to sin is taking a lifetime to break free of and heal from.
The cross sometimes takes many, many years to embrace for people. If we avoided every sinner, then we would be very alone and even have to avoid the mirror. The gospel is MOST effective from a place of empathy.
My daughter serves sacrifically in the military to protect our civil liberties, or in biblical terms, that would mean the basic law of free-will as well as all the rewards, consequences and repercussions that come along with it. Our elected officials are responsible for preserving what the troops protect and fight for. Our freedom of religion. Jesus begs no one to follow Him. We should not either. We are called to love others first, and through that bond, introduce Christ. I have discussed my beliefs with my daughter but most importantly prayed that God will show her what HE expects from her. It is then up to her to take it from there. One thing I know certain is that although I believe marriage is between man and woman, all marriages are the business of the couple and God alone. Any sin that we feel bothered by, is best handled with love and prayer. We all have our owns sins to account for....
#18 May 10, 2012
So my message to you today is before you push a loved one out of your life for not following your Christ, are you also pushing them toward HIM or away from HIM? Don’t get so lost in our own self-righteousness and drown on your own sea of vanity that you forget the greatest command. To FIRST love.
“We love Him because He FIRST loved us.” 1 John 4:19
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#19 May 10, 2012
From the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and the two shall be one flesh... What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder" (Matt. 19:4-6). God's plan is holy heterosexuality, and Jesus spelled it out.
Leviticus 18:22 says, "Thou shalt not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; it is an abomination."
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#20 May 10, 2012
1st Corinthians Chapter 6 verse 9
#21 May 11, 2012
Obama can't seem to make up his mind about gay marriage. He's for it but don't want the credit. He wants the blame placed on the National democratic committee.
My guess is he's stepped in a big pile of cow manure and looking to clean his shoes on the National demo committee.
Most black religious people are against gay marriage and have voiced such, Obama just might have lost some of that vote and is now back paddling. His next step is to point a finger at flap mouth Biden, the mouth of a empty head.
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