Nuclear Power Debate - Las Cruces, NM

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“Close the Borders”

Since: Jun 08

Out in the County

#1 Mar 24, 2011
Fossil fuels have a finite quantity and consequences for burning them. Wind and solar cannot provide the needed baseload. We must build new reactors and make nuclear a bigger part of our power infrastructure.

“Irony, metaphor, film @ eleven”

Since: Feb 08

Old Mesilla/New Las Cruces

#3 Mar 26, 2011
I enjoy driving my cars which is not yet all electric. My microwave, DSL, and satellite dish can run off of wind or solar. My country's military runs hard off of mostly foreign oil products. And sweet potato fries and taco chips are delicious. Tofu will never be a suitable substitute for beef or pork steak. Four dollar+ a gallon for diesel fuel is a sin.

A toasted marshmallow is still best over pecan wood fire's coals.

Sure, I like nuclear energy just fine. Build them where the ground doesn't move and a nation's leaders and their peons aren't crazy. The "green movement" radicals are just as dangerous as racial extremism.

Just because Las Vegas can afford it financially, doesn't mean they have to suck up ever spare kilowatt in the modern world.

Clean, clear water is simply delicious.

Desalinate salt water using nuclear energy.

Drill for and sell our own oil and gas.

Go for a walk today and breath in freedom to do all these things for good.
Realist

Las Cruces, NM

#4 Mar 26, 2011
We bitch if we burn coal or oil or gas. Nuclear is the ultimate green way of producing CONSISTENT electrical power.
YuccaNow

Las Cruces, NM

#5 Mar 28, 2011
The temporary storage of spent rods at the sites of the reactors for decades and the lies to the citizens of this country about safe storage compounded with the massive amounts of money already poured into creating centralized safe storage only to be abandoned shows that the players can't keep up with the game they have been playing to date.

Those running the current plants came of age when our schools were preparing students to be successful in technical fields. Who will run these plants and carefully store the created waste in 50 years or 100 years? The country is not thinking of the burden it is placing on future generations.

“Come walk with me...”

Since: Feb 11

through the Ninth Gate...

#6 Apr 13, 2011
Only dumb F//ks who are old or are filthy rich suport this blind ambition. Let's all sit in a huge circle and smoke some good pot and just be kind to each other.
techo head

Las Cruces, NM

#7 Apr 15, 2011
YuccaNow wrote:
The temporary storage of spent rods at the sites of the reactors for decades and the lies to the citizens of this country about safe storage compounded with the massive amounts of money already poured into creating centralized safe storage only to be abandoned shows that the players can't keep up with the game they have been playing to date.

Those running the current plants came of age when our schools were preparing students to be successful in technical fields. Who will run these plants and carefully store the created waste in 50 years or 100 years? The country is not thinking of the burden it is placing on future generations.
It's not a matter of "50 years or 100 years" - storage of the waste requires thousands of years. Given human history, chances are there will have been many multiple cycles of empires and barbarians in that time. Nobody has shown how to keep that stuff out of the hands of uninformed and misinformed people many generations hence, over time periods that approaches that of continental drift and other geological changes. Even the Egyptian pyramid builders could not keep the buried contents out of the hands of thieves for maore than a few years in most cases.

The nuclear power plant disaster in Japan shows that the current crop of technocrats hadn't planned for simultaneous multiple natural disaters , i. e. both an earthquake and a tsunami at the same time, even though the plants were located in an area where both were known historically. And the Japanese are well known for their long range technological planning. And they don't even have to think much about terrorism issues, given their social norms and largely closed society.

All said, I'm against future nuclear power plants. Humans just don't have the long term foresight to plan for current or long term hazards of the plants, or storing the waste they generate.

“Close the Borders”

Since: Jun 08

Out in the County

#8 Apr 17, 2011
techo head wrote:
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It's not a matter of "50 years or 100 years" - storage of the waste requires thousands of years. Given human history, chances are there will have been many multiple cycles of empires and barbarians in that time. Nobody has shown how to keep that stuff out of the hands of uninformed and misinformed people many generations hence, over time periods that approaches that of continental drift and

other geological changes. Even the Egyptian pyramid builders could not keep the buried contents out of the hands of thieves for maore than a few years in most cases.
The nuclear power plant disaster in Japan shows that the current crop of technocrats hadn't planned for simultaneous multiple natural disaters , i. e. both an earthquake and a tsunami at the same time, even though the plants were located in an

where both were known historically. And the Japanese are well known for their long range technological planning. And they don't even have to think much about terrorism issues, given their social norms and largely closed society.
All said, I'm against future nuclear power plants. Humans just don't have the long term foresight to plan for current or long term hazards of the plants, or storing the waste they generate.
I guess you have never heard of reprocessing of nuclear fuel?

What realistic alternatives do you propose for electrical generation fir an ever increasing population of energy hogs?
Nuff Said

Snellville, GA

#9 Apr 18, 2011
Educate me please. Don't we have the capability to drill thousands of feet down, well below any possible water tables, where these spent rods can be stored forever without negative effect?

Can't we learn from the Japanese and their latest crises how to build nuclear plants that will withstand any natural occurance?

If we switch to all electric vehicles in the next 20 years aren't we going to need power supplies far beyond today's capacity.

Personally, I would feel safer with a nuclear plant in my back yard than a coal, gas or water powered generator.

“Close the Borders”

Since: Jun 08

Out in the County

#10 Apr 18, 2011
Nuff Said wrote:
Educate me please. Don't we have the capability to drill thousands of feet down, well below any possible water tables, where these spent rods can be stored forever without negative effect?
Here is a good site to start with:

http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2009/05/18/18cli...
DustoneGT

Farmington, NM

#11 Apr 20, 2011
It's better than coal, and the modern plants are designed to take a disaster much more than the japanese one was.

“Close the Borders”

Since: Jun 08

Out in the County

#12 Apr 20, 2011
Too bad that the anti-nuke folks have scared South Texas Project from installing (2) new advanced boiling water reactors.

Guess they are afraid of tsunamis coming ashore in Bay City, TX.

FRIGGIN' FOOLS.

http://www.energyonline.com/Industry/News.asp...
New Mexico State Teacher

Las Cruces, NM

#13 Apr 20, 2011
No!!!!! OPPOSE!!! When 52 teacher positions are lost and our kids get stuffed in a class rooms, while the rich kids get private lessons is ludicrous.

This is Stupid! Reach into your wallet Debater's and help our kids first, before Karma gets you!
The Simpsons

Las Cruces, NM

#14 Apr 20, 2011
Cool! I've been wanting to grow an extra head and thousand eyes from the radiation increase.
Greener Choice

Las Cruces, NM

#15 Apr 20, 2011
Couldn't we try to harness the sun for energy first? Give that a try, and if it fails, then buy a nuclear plant?
Greener Choice

Las Cruces, NM

#16 Apr 20, 2011
Couldn't we try inventing a way to harness the sun's energy in mass production. Maybe football fields worth of solar panels?

“Close the Borders”

Since: Jun 08

Out in the County

#17 Apr 21, 2011
Greener Choice wrote:
Couldn't we try to harness the sun for energy first? Give that a try, and if it fails, then buy a nuclear plant?
So what are you going to do when the Sun is not shining or you have a cloudy day? Are you just going to go without electricity?

You folks who think that we can live by all-renewable choices are in dreamland.

We need baseload provided by nuclear, then we can work to make solar and wind economical.
letitbeHuman

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Apr 27, 2011
Nuclear Waste is to TOXIC and Can Not be disposed off Safely. Man has learned to split the Atom but has FAILED to recognize that the after product has no value. It's waste but TOXIC WASTE.
letitbeHuman

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Apr 27, 2011
NO NUKES, PERIOD. Let's take a lesson from what is happening in Japan. The after product of these nukes can't be handled or disposed of 100%.

“Close the Borders”

Since: Jun 08

Out in the County

#20 Apr 27, 2011
letitbeHuman wrote:
NO NUKES, PERIOD. Let's take a lesson from what is happening in Japan. The after product of these nukes can't be handled or disposed of 100%.
Neither can fly ash from coal burning. What about the waste products from producing P-V cells?

Until fusion is perfected, you have to support nuclear power if you are truly GREEN.
Metallica

Las Cruces, NM

#21 May 1, 2011
Great--Scott wrote:
Only dumb F//ks who are old or are filthy rich suport this blind ambition. Let's all sit in a huge circle and smoke some good pot and just be kind to each other.
yeah! And after we enter the gate, we can "chop our breakfast on a mirror"

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