Marijuana Debate - Manitowoc, WI

Pot is seven times more toxic than cigarettes.
Smoking three cannabis joints will cause you to inhale
the same amount of toxic chemicals as a whole packet of
cigarettes, according to research published in France.

Cannabis smoke contains seven times more tar and carbon
monoxide. Pot smokers inhale twice the amount of benzene and three times as much
toluene as if they were smoking a regular cigarette.
Smoking three joints every day - which is becoming frequent -
makes you run the same risks of cancer or cardio-vascular
diseases as smoking a packet of cigarettes.
A large share of pot sold and consumed in the United States is grown in volcanic ash.
Mercury and lead!

perhaps as much tar, but that tar has been proven to NOT cause the same effects of cigarette smoke, and infect slow or retard cancer cells in the early stages of formation.

AnnDee wrote:

Pot is seven times more toxic than cigarettes.
Smoking three cannabis joints will cause you to inhale
the same amount of toxic chemicals as a whole packet of
cigarettes, according to research published in France.
Cannabis smoke contains seven times more tar and carbon
monoxide. Pot smokers inhale twice the amount of benzene and three times as much
toluene as if they were smoking a regular cigarette.
Smoking three joints every day - which is becoming frequent -
makes you run the same risks of cancer or cardio-vascular
diseases as smoking a packet of cigarettes.
A large share of pot sold and consumed in the United States is grown in volcanic ash.
Mercury and lead!

I question your science, but in any case it's irrelevant, since cigarettes aren't illegal, and since more and more people are switching to vaporizing, which cuts out virtually all of the respiratory toxins.

cheaper than coke

Ann Dee. You provided no links for your research. Causes cancer? That is definitely not true.

Ann dee please find out where your research is coming from. there are researchers from isreal that are legit and have been studying marijuana for years most studies in the U.S. are funded to prove marijuana is bad. so they can use it for their own purposes either financial or control related drug enforcement makes over 8 billion dollars a year through fines and forfiture of goods. Plus as the news has reported time and again the gov is the major export importer of drugs! Look it up you will find out all sorts of strange reports of our soldiers guarding poppy fields in afganistan and planes that belonged to the goverment now being used to run coke and heroin

marijuana is safer then alcohol and has benefits when using it. Why not legalize it?

tom wrote:

Ann dee please find out where your research is coming from. there are researchers from isreal that are legit and have been studying marijuana for years most studies in the U.S. are funded to prove marijuana is bad. so they can use it for their own purposes either financial or control related drug enforcement makes over 8 billion dollars a year through fines and forfiture of goods. Plus as the news has reported time and again the gov is the major export importer of drugs! Look it up you will find out all sorts of strange reports of our soldiers guarding poppy fields in afganistan and planes that belonged to the goverment now being used to run coke and heroin

Go ahead smoke on more room at the top for the rest of us.
Sure your Mom doesn't mind you living in her basement

It hasn't killed anyone yet...unlike alcohol..
How many "pot parties" have the cops had to go to to break up a fight? How many alcohol parties have they had to go to to break up a fight or deal with domestic violence?

Steve wrote:

Ann Dee. You provided no links for your research. Causes cancer? That is definitely not true.

You prove it doesn't

Whenever you enhale a foreign substance you risk a negative reaction.
We'll start with the heart, because pot can get things pumping faster there than a tricked-up drum machine at a techno music festival.

In fact, rapid heartbeat -- which, for some users, can speed up by as much as 50 percent--is one of the few universal physical effects of marijuana.(Another is increased appetite -- AKA "the munchies.")

Even though increased heart rate only lasts minutes and isn't a threat to most people, it could add strain for users with heart disorders or high blood pressure.

A bigger threat to more users is irritation to the lungs and respiratory airways, since users tend to inhale pot deeply and hold it in the lungs for as long as possible.

Even though a direct link with lung cancer is unproven, pot smoke does contain cancer-causing chemicals (known as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons), so it's not that farfetched, either.

But get yourself wasted I'm sure mom won't mind you living on her basement couch

Tammy wrote:

It hasn't killed anyone yet...unlike alcohol..
How many "pot parties" have the cops had to go to to break up a fight? How many alcohol parties have they had to go to to break up a fight or deal with domestic violence?

Marijuana Raises Risk of Fatal Car Crash
French Study Shows Pot Smokers More Likely to Be Responsible for Deadly Accident

WebMD Health News Dec. 1, 2005 - People who drive after using marijuana are nearly twice as likely to be involved in a fatal car crash.

French researchers studied all drivers involved in fatal car crashes over a two-year period and found 7% tested positive for marijuana, including nearly 3% who tested positive for a combination of marijuana and alcohol.

Although marijuana's share of fatal crashes is much lower than those attributed to alcohol, researchers say the results show that marijuana use, even in low doses, significantly increases the risk of fatal car accidents.

More Pot, More Deaths
In the study, published in the medical journal BMJ, researchers reviewed information on 10,748 drivers who were involved in fatal car crashes and took required tests for drugs and alcohol.

Twice as many drivers involved in fatal car accidents tested positive for marijuana compared with a group of other drivers.

Researchers say about 2.5% of the fatal crashes were attributable to marijuana compared with nearly 29% attributable to alcohol.

The study also showed that drivers who tested positive for marijuana were more than three times as likely to be responsible for the fatal car crash. Researchers say the likelihood of being at fault increased as the blood concentration of marijuana increased.

Marijuana Causes Many Deaths Reported as 'Accidents'
Sunday November 2, 2003
Marijuana use is much more dangerous that believed and hundreds of young people die each year in "accidents" caused by their prolonged use of the drug, according to Britain's most senior coroner. Hamish Turner, the president of the Coroners' Society, told The Telegraph that the marijuana, often portrayed as harmless, has increasingly been the cause of deaths that have been reported as accidents or suicides.

"Cannabis is as dangerous as any other drug and people must understand that it kills," said Mr Turner. "From my long experience I can say that it is a very dangerous substance. Increasingly it is mentioned not only as the first drug taken by people who overdose, but also in suicides and accidental deaths.

"It is an awful waste of young lives. People are trying the drug at a very young age. Many go on to harder drugs and I am dealing with more and more heroin overdoses. People can also suffer severe consequences from the cannabis alone, however.

"Bereaved parents say to me,'We didn't realise how dangerous it was until it was too late, if only we had done something'. It is heartbreaking."

Turner said that stronger varieties of cannabis are now common, leading to physical and mental problems in young people, compared to the pot that was available in the 1960s.

Source: The Telegraph. "Cannabis use causes 'hundreds of deaths a year', coroner warns" February 2003.

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Smoking Pot Doubles Risk of Fatal Accident
Larger Doses Can Triple the Risk, Study Finds
By Buddy T, About.com Guide
Updated February 27, 2009

About.com Health's Disease and Condition content is reviewed by the Medical Review Board


Marijuana
Feb 27 2009
Driving after smoking even a small amount of marijuana almost doubles the risk of a fatal highway accident, according to an extensive study of 10,748 drivers involved in fatal crashes between 2001 and 2003.
A study by the French National Institute for Transport and Safety Research published in the British Medical Journal found that seven percent of drivers involved in a fatal highway crash used marijuana.

The researchers estimated that at least 2.5 percent of the 10,748 fatal crashes studied were directly caused by the use of marijuana.

The researchers concluded that the risk of being responsible for a fatal crash increased as the blood concentration of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, increased. Even small amounts of marijuana could double the chance of a driver suffering an accident, researchers said, and larger doses could more than triple the risk.

The number of highway deaths contributed the smoking pot were significant, even though they were dwarfed by the number caused by drinking alcohol. Of the drivers involved in fatal accidents, 21.4 percent tested positive for alcohol consumption. Alcohol was estimated to be responsible for 28.6 percent of all fatal highway accidents.

The French research found that 2.9 percent of drivers involved in fatal crashes tested positive for both marijuana and alcohol. Men were more often involved in fatal crashes than women and were more often tested positive for both marijuana and alcohol.

Totally Irresponsible
Young drivers and drivers of motorcycles and mopeds were also more likely to test positive for both substances.
"Research like this proves just how dangerous it is to take drugs, and then get behind the wheel of a car," Roger Vincent, of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents, told the BBC. "It is totally irresponsible, as taking drugs such as cannabis does affect your reactions."

Source: The study was published in the Dec. 3, 2005 issue of the British Medical Journal.

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Pot is Obamacare!

The extremely intelligent have smoked pot...me included. Those most financially successful have smoked pot...me included! If anything, Wisconsin needs less alcohol as it in many ways more harmful. Only the uneducated truly do not understand this. I challenge any Wisconsin non smoker to be as successful. Meaning...what is your job title? What do you make compared to me? At least a six figure income? Also, did your college degree get you further than me without a degree?...No! Does Bill gates have a college degree?...NO! Did he smoke pot?...YES! What do pot smokers become? Entrepreneurs. Who do we hire? Pot smoke'n college drop outs! Nuff said!

The extremely intelligent have smoked pot...me included. Those most financially successful have smoked pot...me included! If anything, Wisconsin needs less alcohol as it in many ways it is more harmful. Only the uneducated truly do not understand this. I challenge any Wisconsin non smoker to be as successful. Meaning...what is your job title? What do you make compared to me? At least a six figure income? Also, did your college degree get you further than me without a degree?...No! Does Bill gates have a college degree?...NO! Did he smoke pot?...YES! What do pot smokers become? Entrepreneurs. Who do we hire? Pot smok'n college drop outs! Nuff said!

The Trout wrote:

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I question your science, but in any case it's irrelevant, since cigarettes aren't illegal, and since more and more people are switching to vaporizing, which cuts out virtually all of the respiratory toxins.

What the hell is vaporizing? I have not heard that one yet?

how can something be illegal that comes from the ground...and besides it don,t do anything beside make you hungry, happy, sleep thats it whats the big deal