Immigration Debate - Woodridge, IL

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Seth

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May 19, 2010
 
The people are pretty much united on this issue regardless of party, illegals must follow a path if they desire citizenship and must be deported while they wait.
Seth

Woodridge, IL

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Jun 21, 2010
 
I support people that take steps to become legal American citizens. I support state's rights to deport illegals.
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Jun 22, 2010
 
Support 100%
Angie

Wheaton, IL

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Jun 23, 2010
 
The federal gov. is not enforcing the laws so now the state is trying to protect it's citizens.
Smedskjaer

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Sep 22, 2010
 
Because of the benefits to the local, state and national economy, immigration, legal and illegal, outweights concerns about our tax money being stolen through welfare for illegals, or lost jobs since they add as many jobs they take.

In terms of culture, the state is not allowed to care about what kind of culture any group has. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion means the state must keep its lips shut and hands off.

National security is not put at risk and local violent crime does not go up as a result of illegal immigration. Immigrants try to keep as low a profile as possible.

So given those three points, I see no reason to support a law that targets people that do not 'look' American.
Vet

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Sep 23, 2010
 
Smedskjaer wrote:
Because of the benefits to the local, state and national economy, immigration, legal and illegal, outweights concerns about our tax money being stolen through welfare for illegals, or lost jobs since they add as many jobs they take.
In terms of culture, the state is not allowed to care about what kind of culture any group has. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion means the state must keep its lips shut and hands off.
National security is not put at risk and local violent crime does not go up as a result of illegal immigration. Immigrants try to keep as low a profile as possible.
So given those three points, I see no reason to support a law that targets people that do not 'look' American.
This is total BS and lies, butt out of America's business. Tend to your own pathetic country.

I will explain this one more time though I'm sure you understand. A sovereign nation has the right and obligation to protect its sovereignty . These ILLEGALS premeditate an ILLEGAL invasion of our borders. That makes them ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS . I do not give a damn why they come or how hard they work or that they are poor, That is Mexico's problem . I work to support MY family not Pedro's family. You obviously want open borders for 1 of 2 reasons . You are ILLEGAL or you are a Socialist Democrat who wants their votes to stay in power. If you want to ignore Immigration Law then we will ignore Civil Rights Law. Fair is fair, right , entiendes hombre. ARREST and DEPORT all ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS.

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Sep 23, 2010
 
Vet wrote:
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This is total BS and lies, butt out of America's business. Tend to your own pathetic country.
I will explain this one more time though I'm sure you understand. A sovereign nation has the right and obligation to protect its sovereignty . These ILLEGALS premeditate an ILLEGAL invasion of our borders. That makes them ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS . I do not give a damn why they come or how hard they work or that they are poor, That is Mexico's problem . I work to support MY family not Pedro's family. You obviously want open borders for 1 of 2 reasons . You are ILLEGAL or you are a Socialist Democrat who wants their votes to stay in power. If you want to ignore Immigration Law then we will ignore Civil Rights Law. Fair is fair, right , entiendes hombre. ARREST and DEPORT all ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS.
I was born in America, I was raised in America, I am AMERICAN! I have every god given right to speak out and vote that you do and I will tell you this to your face only once, DO NOT TREAD ON ME!
How far behind have we fallen, when people like you assume Americans only live in America and anyone else in the world must be illegal.
Take your ultra-nationalistic pride and cram it up someone else's ass. In my opinion, Storm Front would do well with people like you.
PSA

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Sep 27, 2010
 
How many illegal immigrants live in Woodridge? You're not exposed to the negative effects so your view, while you have a right to it, might be ill informed.
Smedskjaer

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Sep 27, 2010
 
PSA: I grew up in Woodridge.
My view is adopted from Penn & Teller. I think even illegal immigration helps the economy. These are not scum bags, low lifes and criminal master minds. They are people who want to work hard and earn an honest living.
Vet

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Sep 27, 2010
 
Smedskjaer wrote:
PSA: I grew up in Woodridge.
My view is adopted from Penn & Teller. I think even illegal immigration helps the economy. These are not scum bags, low lifes and criminal master minds. They are people who want to work hard and earn an honest living.
This is total BS and lies, butt out of America's business. Tend to your own pathetic country.

I will explain this one more time though I'm sure you understand. A sovereign nation has the right and obligation to protect its sovereignty . These ILLEGALS premeditate an ILLEGAL invasion of our borders. That makes them ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS . I do not give a damn why they come or how hard they work or that they are poor, That is Mexico's problem . I work to support MY family not Pedro's family. You obviously want open borders for 1 of 2 reasons . You are ILLEGAL or you are a Socialist Democrat who wants their votes to stay in power. If you want to ignore Immigration Law then we will ignore Civil Rights Law. Fair is fair, right , entiendes pendejo? ARREST and DEPORT all ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS.
Vet

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Sep 27, 2010
 
Smedskjaer wrote:
PSA: I grew up in Woodridge.
My view is adopted from Penn & Teller. I think even illegal immigration helps the economy. These are not scum bags, low lifes and criminal master minds. They are people who want to work hard and earn an honest living.
Take a hike , you moron. ARREST and DEPORT.
Smedskjaer

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#13
Sep 27, 2010
 
How about, no.
The US is my business.
Democracy is a reality you need to subject, submit yourself to.
If the majority of the electorate does not want to deport illegal aliens, then you need to accept that reality and learn to live in a society where illegal aliens are not deported.
Vet

Lithonia, GA

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Sep 27, 2010
 
Smedskjaer wrote:
How about, no.
The US is my business.
Democracy is a reality you need to subject, submit yourself to.
If the majority of the electorate does not want to deport illegal aliens, then you need to accept that reality and learn to live in a society where illegal aliens are not deported.
The majority,(82%) on this poll and 96% on the CNN poll want ILLEGALS kept out. Since you aren't suffering the effects of these ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS , you might want to take a hike, moron.
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Sep 27, 2010
 
Suffering the effects of these illegal immigrants?
I beg your pardon, but you have not suffered any ill effects due to illegal immigration. They take the jobs no one else wants. They quickly raise the quality of life for everyone. If immigration was destroying the labor market, we would see unemployment at 15%, not 5%, which is has been since the 1990's.

Why don't you read a third party source, like Reason magazine.
http://reason.com/archives/2010/07/22/the-imm...

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

What kind of pinko liberal country comes up with that shit? Oh yeah, the U.S. The country you and I are proud to be citizens of. Well, atleast I am proud of America and the attitude to immigration that existed when those iconic words were cherished in America. I don't know about you though. The anti-immigration fit is bullshit.
Smedskjaer

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#16
Sep 29, 2010
 
I support rewriting immigration laws to promote immigration and allow people with high school degrees to immigrate to America quickly. I want our borders to be as open as possible so our economy can grow again. The free market is best at deciding how much immigration there should be to America, not some politician with an axe to grind.
Vet

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Sep 29, 2010
 
Smedskjaer wrote:
I support rewriting immigration laws to promote immigration and allow people with high school degrees to immigrate to America quickly. I want our borders to be as open as possible so our economy can grow again. The free market is best at deciding how much immigration there should be to America, not some politician with an axe to grind.
This is total BS and lies, butt out of America's business. Tend to your own pathetic country.

I will explain this one more time though I'm sure you understand. A sovereign nation has the right and obligation to protect its sovereignty . These ILLEGALS premeditate an ILLEGAL invasion of our borders. That makes them ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS . I do not give a damn why they come or how hard they work or that they are poor, That is Mexico's problem . I work to support MY family not Pedro's family. You obviously want open borders for 1 of 2 reasons . You are ILLEGAL or you are a Socialist Democrat who wants their votes to stay in power. If you want to ignore Immigration Law then we will ignore Civil Rights Law. Fair is fair, right , entiendes pendejo? ARREST and DEPORT all ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS.
Smedskjaer

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Sep 29, 2010
 
Your central point is one of principle, but you have not addressed my central point, which was to rewrite immigration laws so far more immigrants can come to America legally.

What you did however, was argumentum ad hominem, which is only a step above name calling. In general, argumentum ad hominem is considered invalid, so I suggest you think about what you are writing first, if you wish to be taken seriously.

But, I would like to point out, many politicians have an axe to grind about race majority in America and immigration is a very old axe in American history. Racism has often driven immigration law, e.g. the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and the "Yellow Peril". I doubt that frame of mind has died out yet. You most certainly are keeping it alive, when you polarize the issue into an "Us vrs Those Two", immigrants and democrats.

But back to underminding your point.

You are not working for Pedro's family. Immigrants, legal and illegal, are supporting themselves. None of your tax money supports them, but their work does support your quality of life. The article from Reason magazine explains how.

I must confess, I never learned spanish, but I assume "entiendes pendejo" is meant to refere to me.
I was born in Cook County, Illinois. I grew up in Chicago. I am the son of two danish citizens. My father contributed significant knowledge to material sciences at Argonn National Lab. I am an American citizen and my family has contributed in no small way to the American way of life. I would only ask of you to show me due respect as a fellow citizen and refrain from ad hominem attacks. National solidarity between citizens is a must, especially in these trying times. Debate the issue with reasoned sentences and refrain from slinging mud; we have the house of representatives for that.

“Peter Smedskjaer ROCKS!”

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Dec 12, 2010
 
Did that really end the thread?

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Dec 12, 2010
 
Smedskjaer wrote:
Did that really end the thread?
Maybe you should live in LA.........

Thought you would enjoy this little tidbit of info. Surprised the LA Times published these stats.

Just One State - be sure and read the last part.
This is only one State..........If this doesn't open eyes, nothing will!

From the L. A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes.

This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7... The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8 Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish..(There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County ..)

(All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.

Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration.

29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

We are fools for letting this continue



This is only one State..........

If this doesn't open your eyes nothing will, and you wonder why Nancy Pelosi wants them to become voters!

“Peter Smedskjaer ROCKS!”

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Dec 12, 2010
 
Can you give me a link to that article? Those statistics are compelling, but I want to check the sources the article uses.

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