Immigration Debate - Santa Rosa, NM

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Do you support Arizona's immigration law?

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Beto

Santa Rosa, NM

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Aug 28, 2010
 
I think they should arrest and fine any "legitimate" business that hires illegal aliens, especially if they hire them without checking them and making sure they have a legitimate SSN. Why does Arizona think illegal aliens come to Arizona? To work! Stop the hiring if you don't want illegals.
The Economist

Santa Rosa, NM

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Aug 28, 2010
 
Beto wrote:
I think they should arrest and fine any "legitimate" business that hires illegal aliens, especially if they hire them without checking them and making sure they have a legitimate SSN. Why does Arizona think illegal aliens come to Arizona? To work! Stop the hiring if you don't want illegals.
Beto,

Not sure if you are just venting or if you are really asking a question. If you are actually asking a question, here is the answer:

There is no law requiring a business to make sure that a SSN is legitimate. The law only requires that the person doing the hire take down the number and look at another form of ID (lisense). From that point it is the federal governments job to match the SSN with the proper taxpayer to make sure that taxes deducted go into the proper SS account.

When the Federal government realizes that the number is illegitimate, they keep all the money that should go to a SS account and use it as they please (wars, welfare etc.). They don't even notify the employer that the number is illegitimate.
Vet

Stockbridge, GA

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Aug 28, 2010
 
Beto wrote:
I think they should arrest and fine any "legitimate" business that hires illegal aliens, especially if they hire them without checking them and making sure they have a legitimate SSN. Why does Arizona think illegal aliens come to Arizona? To work! Stop the hiring if you don't want illegals.
A marked drop in Phoenix-area crime coincides with the recession and a drop in the number of illegal immigrants in Arizona.

Phoenix has seen a 25 percent decline in the number of crimes during the first five months of 2009 compared to the same time period in 2007 when the economy began to slow. Violent crime in Phoenix is down 12 percent, according crime statistics from the Phoenix Police Department.

The Mesa Police Department reports a 19 percent decrease in total crimes for the first half of 2009 versus the first half of 2007, including a 10 percent drop in violent crime. Tempe has seen a 25 percent total drop.

At the same time, the state’s illegal immigrant population has decreased by as much as one-third thanks to the down U.S. economy, tougher enforcement polices by the federal government and Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office, as well as the state’s employer sanctions law which goes after businesses who hire undocumented workers, said Steven Camarota, director of the Center for Immigration Studies.

CIS estimates Arizona’s illegal immigrant population has gone from 579,000 in 2007 to 388,000 this year — 191,000-person drop.

Read more: Drop in crime coincides with exodus of illegal immigrants - Phoenix Business Journal
Helen Wilkinson

Dallas, TX

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Aug 28, 2010
 
Yes
rivetting

Santa Rosa, NM

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Aug 28, 2010
 
you can round em all up at park lake on the weekends.
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Santa Rosa, NM

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Aug 28, 2010
 
Vet wrote:
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A marked drop in Phoenix-area crime coincides with the recession and a drop in the number of illegal immigrants in Arizona.
Phoenix has seen a 25 percent decline in the number of crimes during the first five months of 2009 compared to the same time period in 2007 when the economy began to slow. Violent crime in Phoenix is down 12 percent, according crime statistics from the Phoenix Police Department.
The Mesa Police Department reports a 19 percent decrease in total crimes for the first half of 2009 versus the first half of 2007, including a 10 percent drop in violent crime. Tempe has seen a 25 percent total drop.
At the same time, the state’s illegal immigrant population has decreased by as much as one-third thanks to the down U.S. economy, tougher enforcement polices by the federal government and Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office, as well as the state’s employer sanctions law which goes after businesses who hire undocumented workers, said Steven Camarota, director of the Center for Immigration Studies.
CIS estimates Arizona’s illegal immigrant population has gone from 579,000 in 2007 to 388,000 this year — 191,000-person drop.
Read more: Drop in crime coincides with exodus of illegal immigrants - Phoenix Business Journal
If this is true and if this is the case well then why do we keep sending the National Guard, drones, and taxpayer money down there? and all the tea party psychos go hang out like little ratas? Just me, Beto, saying, Oh yes, and I am not venting. There is a cause for every problem, and a solution.
I happy you're talking about it,
La Migra

Santa Rosa, NM

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Aug 29, 2010
 
Hell yes kick all the illegals out
Vet

Stockbridge, GA

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Aug 29, 2010
 
La Migra wrote:
Hell yes kick all the illegals out
I still like your style , Senorita/Senora. Por favor digame que es "Migra?"
Mosca en la Pared

La Junta, CO

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Aug 29, 2010
 
This whole issue is thinly veiled prejudice and fear at the very least. American hispanos need to consider this issue very carefully, lest the whole thing backfire and bite them in the butt. My family , like many other New Mexican families, has been here (from Mexico aka New Spain) for more than nine or ten generations and even qualify for membership in the Sons/Daughters of the American Revolution because of something an ancient ancestor did to support the American Revolution. Even though Spanish is my first language, I speak better English than some native speakers, am educated, work, pay taxes, am well -acculturated and abide by the laws of this country. On the face of it, I should have nothing to worry about. However, in the face of prejudice, fear, and craziness, it may all be completely meaningless when my brown skin color factors in. And, rest assured, once they get done with the ones who are obviously Mexican, they may come after the ones who aren't so obvious but carry the same bloodlines—just like Hitler did. You'd be better off supporting your blood brothers and sisters and quit being such a bunch of vendidos. Just sayin'...¡Venceremos!
Vet

Stockbridge, GA

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Aug 29, 2010
 
Mosca en la Pared wrote:
This whole issue is thinly veiled prejudice and fear at the very least. American hispanos need to consider this issue very carefully, lest the whole thing backfire and bite them in the butt. My family , like many other New Mexican families, has been here (from Mexico aka New Spain) for more than nine or ten generations and even qualify for membership in the Sons/Daughters of the American Revolution because of something an ancient ancestor did to support the American Revolution. Even though Spanish is my first language, I speak better English than some native speakers, am educated, work, pay taxes, am well -acculturated and abide by the laws of this country. On the face of it, I should have nothing to worry about. However, in the face of prejudice, fear, and craziness, it may all be completely meaningless when my brown skin color factors in. And, rest assured, once they get done with the ones who are obviously Mexican, they may come after the ones who aren't so obvious but carry the same bloodlines—just like Hitler did. You'd be better off supporting your blood brothers and sisters and quit being such a bunch of vendidos. Just sayin'...¡Venceremos!
You are not a real American, pendeja and you are probably an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL. You are also a racist and probably a member of the most racist outfit on the planet, la raza . La raza come mierda, muerte a la raza. No vas a vencer, pendeja, vas a perder.ICE esta a tu puerta, pendeja.
Mosca en la Pared

La Junta, CO

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Aug 29, 2010
 
Vet wrote:
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You are not a real American, pendeja and you are probably an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINAL. You are also a racist and probably a member of the most racist outfit on the planet, la raza . La raza come mierda, muerte a la raza. No vas a vencer, pendeja, vas a perder.ICE esta a tu puerta, pendeja.
Please don't choke on your own venomous rage, Señor Vendido. Save yourself for the day the Storm Troupers come for you and send you al paredón o al horno. Que dios te perdone, rabioso. Uh oh, I think ICE is at my door. See ya later, alligator. Hasta nunca.
Vet

Stockbridge, GA

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Aug 29, 2010
 
Mosca en la Pared wrote:
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Please don't choke on your own venomous rage, Señor Vendido. Save yourself for the day the Storm Troupers come for you and send you al paredón o al horno. Que dios te perdone, rabioso. Uh oh, I think ICE is at my door. See ya later, alligator. Hasta nunca.
Que estupida tu eres, pendeja, sin verguenza. Que Dios No te oerdone, pendeja. Vete a tu patria, Mehico, tan sucia y tan corrompido. ARREST and DEPORT including this bruja.
Mosca en la Pared

La Junta, CO

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Aug 29, 2010
 
Vet wrote:
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Que estupida tu eres, pendeja, sin verguenza. Que Dios No te oerdone, pendeja. Vete a tu patria, Mehico, tan sucia y tan corrompido. ARREST and DEPORT including this bruja.
My, my. Shades of the Salem witch trials. Oh, and shameless witches, no less. If you weren't so crazy, you'd be funny, dude. Not to mention that your computer Spanish is grammatically laughable. Go away, now. The grown ups are trying to have a dialogue.
Vet

Stockbridge, GA

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Aug 29, 2010
 
Mosca en la Pared wrote:
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My, my. Shades of the Salem witch trials. Oh, and shameless witches, no less. If you weren't so crazy, you'd be funny, dude. Not to mention that your computer Spanish is grammatically laughable. Go away, now. The grown ups are trying to have a dialogue.
I think I have it now. You are a big, fat , ugly white woman who is married to an ILLEGAL MEXICAN CRIMINAL. ARREST and DEPORT . You don't sound like an adult, just an ugly white pendeja.

Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

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Aug 29, 2010
 
If illegal Mexicans stayed home there would not be any trouble. So any hardship is the result of them crossing into our country.

California has a big whooping cough problem, where do you think that came from? Mexico!
Mosca en la Pared

La Junta, CO

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Aug 29, 2010
 
Vet wrote:
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I think I have it now. You are a big, fat , ugly white woman who is married to an ILLEGAL MEXICAN CRIMINAL. ARREST and DEPORT . You don't sound like an adult, just an ugly white pendeja.
I'd love to stay and trade some more billets doux, Señor Troll, but I have to go get ready for work tomorrow. Go take a chill pill and go to bed. Buenas noches, duerme con los angelitos.
Vet

Stockbridge, GA

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Aug 29, 2010
 
Mosca en la Pared wrote:
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I'd love to stay and trade some more billets doux, Señor Troll, but I have to go get ready for work tomorrow. Go take a chill pill and go to bed. Buenas noches, duerme con los angelitos.
That was nice , bruja, oops , senorita. Tyu tambien.
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Aug 29, 2010
 
Mosca en la Pared wrote:
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I'd love to stay and trade some more billets doux, Señor Troll, but I have to go get ready for work tomorrow. Go take a chill pill and go to bed. Buenas noches, duerme con los angelitos.
That should be , "tu tambien."
DEE

Oakdale, CA

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#19
Aug 30, 2010
 
YES THEY NEED TOO GO ALL THEY DO IS TAKE, TAKE. EVEN HERE,CANT EVEN FIND CHEEP HOUSEING BECAUSE ALL OF THEM ARE TAKEING UP OUR HOUSEING....GO BACK TO YOUR SHITY CITY!P.S. OBOMA IS STUPID.
CHIKAMOJADA

Anton Chico, NM

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#20
Sep 7, 2010
 
WWOOWW!! ANDALE, YA ME ESTAN DESCRIMINANDO!!

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