Immigration Debate - Manhattan, IL

Discuss the national Immigration debate in Manhattan, IL.

Do you support Arizona's immigration law?

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Eastwood

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#1
Jun 2, 2010
 
They are called illegals for a reason. No other country tolerates this and the United States has for too long.
Eastwood

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#2
Jun 2, 2010
 
I'm all for different ethnic backgrounds being in this country, but I don't think that it's too much to ask them to go through the proper channels. My family had to when they came over from the Czech Republic.
Law and Order

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#3
Jun 2, 2010
 
I agree that other countries don't turn a blind eye to this the way the U.S. does. Having people here illegally places a burden on the schools and the health care system. Someone has to pay for these services.
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La Grange Park, IL

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Jun 2, 2010
 
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#5
Jun 2, 2010
 
How about we take care of our own United States American Citizens? Is that too much to ask?

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#6
Jun 3, 2010
 
Politicians are the dumbest people on the face of the Earth. Wasted education. Just read the Federal immigration law and then the Arizona law. You'll find out which one is more lenient.(Hint: AZ stands for?)

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Jun 3, 2010
 
I love when some folks liken the new AZ law to Nazi Germany with the showing of paperwork. If you are here legally, you should have your paper work on you at all times any way, right? If I travel to England, I would have a passport on me at all times. Shit, if I get pulled over in town, I am required to have a drivers license, proof of insurance, and registration for my car. I don't feel that my rights are being trampled on. And to assume this will lead to racial profiling, good who cares.
Here's a tip, don't break the law, you won't get pulled over and it won't be an issue. If you are here illegally, that you have no rights anyway so get out.
Stop assuming all cops are racist and will pull you over just because you are brown. That's just stupid. At least, that's my take on it.
Truth

Wheaton, IL

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Jun 3, 2010
 
Whos going to do jobs you lazy americans do not do cant pick your own food and starve and your childs are more lazy my kids are ready to outwork yours.
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Jun 3, 2010
 
Truth wrote:
Whos going to do jobs you lazy americans do not do cant pick your own food and starve and your childs are more lazy my kids are ready to outwork yours.
Just make sure you and Jr. have your paperwork in order. Then feel free to work your ass off. Cool by me.

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Jul 5, 2010
 
If you are an illegal, you should be prosecuted, then after you have done that be removed from the country. You get picked up again, should be more jail time. I FULLY SUPPORT ARIZONA, GOOD FOR THEM. Mayor Daley is an ass giving them making Chicago a place for them to hide, makes me want to move to Arizona!

Jail time should be the penalty for being here illegally and the penalty should be a very harsh one!
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Jul 5, 2010
 
Truth wrote:
Whos going to do jobs you lazy americans do not do cant pick your own food and starve and your childs are more lazy my kids are ready to outwork yours.
Local elections in Mexico marred by violence, intimidation
Los Angeles Times - &#8206;21 minutes ago&#8206;
Exit polls show PRI ahead in many of the state races. Some polls fail to open because election workers are afraid to show up. In Chihuahua, four bodies are hung from bridges.

ARREST and DEPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS .
HoseAhoseB

Manhattan, IL

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#12
Jul 5, 2010
 
There here to do the jobs we don't want. That's what bush said. Now, there's more illegals working than citizens. Get rid off them.
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Chicago Heights, IL

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Jul 7, 2010
 
Subject: Arizona State Senator Sylvia Allen. I want to explain SB 1070
I'm Arizona State Senator Sylvia Allen. I want to explain SB 1070 which I voted for and was just signed by Governor Jan Brewer.
Rancher Rob Krantz was murdered by the drug cartel on his ranch a month ago. I participated in a senate hearing two weeks ago on the border violence, here is just some of the highlights from those who testified.
The people who live within 60 to 80 miles of the Arizona/Mexico Border have for years been terrorized and have pleaded for help to stop the daily invasion of humans who cross their property . One Rancher testified that 300 to 1200 people a DAY come across his ranch vandalizing his property, stealing his vehicles and property, cutting down his fences, and leaving trash. In the last two years he has found 17 dead bodies and two Koran bibles.
Another rancher testified that daily drugs are brought across his ranch in a military operation. A point man with a machine gun goes in front, 1/2 mile behind are the guards fully armed, 1/2 mile behind them are the drugs, behind the drugs 1/2 mile are more guards. These people are violent and they will kill anyone who gets in the way. This was not the only rancher we heard that day that talked about the drug trains.
One man told of two illegal's who came upon his property one shot in the back and the other in the arm by the drug runners who had forced them to carry the drugs and then shot them. Daily they listen to gun fire during the night it is not safe to leave his family alone on the ranch and they can't leave the ranch for fear of nothing being left when they come back.
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Chicago Heights, IL

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Jul 7, 2010
 
The border patrol is not on the border. They have set up 60 miles away with check points that do nothing to stop the invasion. They are not allowed to use force in stopping anyone who is entering. They run around chasing them, if they get their hands on them then they can take them back across the border.
Federal prisons have over 35% illegal's and 20% of Arizona prisons are filled with illegal's. In the last few years 80% of our law enforcement that have been killed or wounded have been by an illegal.
The majority of people coming now are people we need to be worried about. The ranchers told us that they have seen a change in the people coming they are not just those who are looking for work and a better life.
The Federal Government has refused for years to do anything to help the border states . We have been over run and once they are here we have the burden of funding state services that they use. Education cost have been over a billion dollars. The healthcare cost billions of dollars. Our State is broke,$3.5 billion deficit and we have many serious decisions to make. One is that we do not have the money to care for any who are not here legally. It has to stop.
The border can be secured. We have the technology we have the ability to stop this invasion. We must know who is coming and they must come in an organized manner legally so that we can assimilate them into our population and protect the sovereignty of our country. We are a nation of laws. We have a responsibility to protect our citizens and to protect the integrity of our country and the government which we live under.
I would give amnesty today to many, but here is the problem, we dare not do this until the Border is secure. It will do no good to forgive them because thousands will come behind them and we will be over run to the point that there will no longer be the United States of America but a North American Union of open borders. I ask you what form of government will we live under? How long will it be before we will be just like Mexico , Canada or any of the other Central American or South American countries? We have already lost our language, everything must be printed in Spanish also. We have already lost our history it is no longer taught in our schools. And we have lost our borders.
The leftist media has distorted what SB 1070 will do. It is not going to set up a Nazi Germany . Are you kidding. The ACLU and the leftist courts will do everything to protect those who are here illegally, but it was an effort to try and stop illegal's from setting up businesses, and employment, and receiving state services and give the ability to local law enforcement when there is probable cause like a traffic stop to determine if they are here legally. Federal law is very clear if you are here on a visa you must have your papers on you at all times. That is the law. In Arizona all you need to show you are a legal citizen is a driver license, MVD identification card, Native American Card, or a Military ID. This is what you need to vote, get a hunting license, etc.. So nothing new has been added to this law. No one is going to be stopped walking down the street etc... The Socialist who are in power in DC are angry because we dare try and do something and that something the Socialist wants us to do is just let them come. They want the "Transformation" to continue.
Maybe it is too late to save America . Maybe we are not worthy of freedom anymore. But as an elected official I must try to do what I can to protect our Constitutional Republic . Living in America is not a right just because you can walk across the border. Being an American is a responsibility and it comes by respecting and upholding the Constitution the law of our land which says what you must do to be a citizen of this country. Freedom is not free.=
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#15
Jul 7, 2010
 
Don't forget to pay your taxes...
12 million Illegal Aliens are depending on you!

Three Presidents did it, yet we never hear about it
I FOUND THIS TO BE VERY INTERESTING.
I WONDER WHY IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP.




What did Hoover, Truman, and Eisenhower have in common?

Here is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around.
I didn't know of this until it was pointed out to me.

Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the
deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American
citizens that desperately needed work..

Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal's after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans'.

And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million
Mexican Nationals! The program was called 'Operation Wetback'. It was
done so WWII and Korean Veterans would have a better chance at jobs.
It took 2 Years, but they deported them!

Now...if they could deport the illegal's back then - they could sure do it today.

lf you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation
Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself..
igottaguy

Joliet, IL

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Jul 17, 2010
 
Truth wrote:
Whos going to do jobs you lazy americans do not do cant pick your own food and starve and your childs are more lazy my kids are ready to outwork yours.
10 million American citizens un-employed, and Obama wants to legalize 10 million illegal aliens, many who work in jobs that American citizens should have access to!!

Enforce E-Verify for all employers, gov workers, state, city and county, contractors, and private employers;
THEN illegal workers will self-deport, let them take their children with them, illegals made the decision to have children, they must take responsibility for their own children.

Enforce E-verify, put 10 million American workers back on the job, our economic problem solved, let illegal workers self-deport!!

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Dec 12, 2010
 
These people don't respect our country or its laws!!!

THROW THEM BACK TO THE HOLE THEY CAME FROM!

If the parents of these children truly cared for them they would of came here legally. If these people care for our country and want to be a part of it, they can leave and come back legally, I have no problem with that.

But they are here illegally, so send their @sses back!!
Vet

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Dec 12, 2010
 
the uncensored one wrote:
These people don't respect our country or its laws!!!
THROW THEM BACK TO THE HOLE THEY CAME FROM!
If the parents of these children truly cared for them they would of came here legally. If these people care for our country and want to be a part of it, they can leave and come back legally, I have no problem with that.
But they are here illegally, so send their @sses back!!
Good post , Sir. ARREST and DEPORT.

Since: Jan 11

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Jan 17, 2011
 
Truth wrote:
Whos going to do jobs you lazy americans do not do cant pick your own food and starve and your childs are more lazy my kids are ready to outwork yours.
Not you!
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#22
Jan 17, 2011
 
I agree send the illegals back to there home personal im tired of paying for the dam wet backs we need to take care of our own before anybody elsa deport and jail time for them beaners

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