Immigration Debate - Fort Lupton, CO

just some one is a different color or dosent speak perfect english dosent mean there from another place

the ilegal people need an opportunity to have a permit to stay in here the no are bad

They can get in line like all the other legal immigrants did instead of breaking our laws and stealing our resources, and commiting more crimes.

tamisha smith wrote:

the ilegal people need an opportunity to have a permit to stay in here the no are bad

The ILLEGAL (not ilegal) people are CRIMINALS and "need an opportunity to " GO to JAIL and be DEPORTED. Got it?

If the illegal immigrants are the criminals and are stealing our resources, then i suppose that if they all leave,we Americans will be on our way to sainthood. What a wonderful world it'll be when there's no crime since legal residents don't do that.
We'll be saving all that money that's being spent on prisons and wars.
What a wonderful world it'll be!

Dreamer wrote:

If the illegal immigrants are the criminals and are stealing our resources, then i suppose that if they all leave,we Americans will be on our way to sainthood. What a wonderful world it'll be when there's no crime since legal residents don't do that.
We'll be saving all that money that's being spent on prisons and wars.
What a wonderful world it'll be!

You would fell different if one of these illegals killed on of your children, people who are not suppose to be even in the country.

I support immigration when it done legally. How can we trust illegals when they come here by breaking our laws?

I think it is racial profiling.

Arlette Bates wrote:

I think it is racial profiling.

How about secure communities and E-verify, racial profiling too?

What part of ILLEAGLE dont people understand? They dont belong here if they have to sneek in.

I agree. Illegals should get deported. They are breaking this country financially.

Construction wages have not risen at all in 12 years as a result. Employers pay them pennies to increase their profit margins. The savings are never passed on.

I worked for two different large landscape companies, one only hired legals, worked with the H2-B programs. Any body with counterfeit paper work was fired on the spot, for the most part, pretty solid guys, normal race and cultural differences issues some times, minor theft issues but in four years, only two guys arrested that I was aware of.
Spent another 4 years working for a second company, used a subcontractor to handle I-9's. I believe this put the subcontractor on the hook. Sub contractor was really a shell Corp being run out of a house, a front for counterfeit paper work. The criminal element in the work force with this employer was much greater, it was amazing, in our Yard and Parking lot was almost a flea market of Stolen goods, drugs, Counterfeit ID's, Green cards, what ever. Counterfeit money.$800.00 bought $3000.00 in 20's. The amount of theft from the company was huge, From direct theft of goods, to ghost employee's and ghost companies. We had supervisors (yes we had illegal supervisors) that would hire nonexistent employees based on a counterfeit ID and then collect the extra check(s). Also they would start their own companies then use our employers equipment, crews and inventory to do work and collect money directly. The Amount of workers that would come for a short period, steal, run up debt on credit cards buy a car or two, motorcycles, what ever, get arrested.. bonded out then loaded up all their goods and headed home...coming back the next season with complete different name/ID doing the same crap.
There is so much more..couldn't tell you how many times I had to get a truck out a DOT check point because the Driver Would not Produce a Drivers License, Because it was counterfeit, If the Driver will not tell them who he is, they can't ticket him, INS won't come get him for a traffic infraction, Simple Fix, put a different driver in the truck, truck leaves the DOT check point, take driver with counterfeit license back to the yard, send him back out in a different truck.
You can call me a raciest..quote all the sound bites and talking points you want, but when I meet and work with a legal immigrant, I find a level of respect for that person. they are usually pretty good people, care about their families.. all that, Those that I have met that were working towards being citizens. I just smile and feel a since of pride knowing that they are working to become naturalized.
While working with illegals, I have worked with a lot of guys who I like, who's company I enjoy, But I would say its about half....half of those I would never trust, never tell them where I lived. I Had more tools stolen, received more raciest treatment, comments and threats. Just knew there was a lower common denominator.
I believe in enforcing our current immigration laws...deporting illegals, controlling the boarders and properly controlling and managing legal immigration.

I am 100% for sure illegal immigrants can serve "our" country. So if we are going to let them serve our country then why is it that we are trying to deport them. Tipical Amercican's we always let everyone else do our dirty jobs and close the door when they need help...

my opinion wrote:

I am 100% for sure illegal immigrants can serve "our" country. So if we are going to let them serve our country then why is it that we are trying to deport them. Tipical Amercican's we always let everyone else do our dirty jobs and close the door when they need help...

I don't want them to do our dirty jobs, i want them to apply for a passport & visa first then they can come here and work.

Illegal aliens can not join the military. You must be a US citizen or legal immigrant.

"Being a U.S. citizen or legal immigrant of the United States is only one of the basic requirements to join the U.S. military."

"Non-citizens are eligible to enlist in the military but can not be commissioned. A non-citizen that is eligible to join the military must meet certain requirements:(1) Have an Alien Registration Receipt Card (stamped I-94 or I-551 Green card/INS Form 1-551),(2) Have a bona fide residence established, and (3) Have established a record of the U.S. as their home."

http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/military....

Are you military? I spend 4 years at Osan AB! I love Korea!

While I do not support illegal immigration, I do know that many Mexicans have died while in the service of this country and died with the hope that they would eventually becomes citizens of the United States; I cannot help but commend them and thank them for their sacrifice while our rich kids are off in college or perhaps became beach bums in California.
What I cannot tolerate is them waving the Mexican flag while wanting to become American citizens. It's high time they realize that Mexico did nothing for them and it's no wonder they are here.
Que viva mejico ni que nada!
We have lost too many lives of Americans so that they come here demanding what we never demanded as Americans of Mexican origins and as soldiers in many, many cases.

spytheweb wrote:

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You would fell different if one of these illegals killed on of your children, people who are not suppose to be even in the country.

i wonder how you would feel if your children were killed by Americans like those that killed many in Columbine. i suppose it would be okay with you, as long as they are legal.

Citizen wrote:

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i wonder how you would feel if your children were killed by Americans like those that killed many in Columbine. i suppose it would be okay with you, as long as they are legal.

There are thousands of Americans who would be alive if illegals were removed. Like these guys:

6 Sept 2011

"The accident that precipitated the flight of the two men took place about 2:30 a.m. Saturday at the intersection of U.S. Highway 14 (Sixth Street) and 22nd Avenue.

Bennett, a rural Brookings resident, was traveling north on 22nd when a 1998 Dodge Durango slammed into his car, striking the 1999 Honda Prelude on the driver’s side. The Dodge SUV was traveling east on Highway 14.

The impact of the crash pushed both vehicles northeast on the highway, both coming to rest in front of the Advance Auto Parts store.

Bennett was pronounced dead at the scene.

Police said the driver of the Dodge fled the scene on foot.

Both airbags in the SUV deployed, and that initially led police to suspect that there might have been two people in the vehicle at the time of the collision.

Based on where the cars came to rest, police also speculated that the SUV had been traveling at a high rate of speed.

Hernandez and Guzman are believed to have fled Brookings together, heading for Storm Lake and Laredo, Texas. The two men had been working together at a construction site in Brookings and staying at a local hotel."

This could not happen if they were not in the country.

http://www.brookingsregister.com/v2_news_arti...

my opinion wrote:

I am 100% for sure illegal immigrants can serve "our" country. So if we are going to let them serve our country then why is it that we are trying to deport them. Tipical Amercican's we always let everyone else do our dirty jobs and close the door when they need help...

Let them serve another country. And that's illegal aliens.

As much as we would love to get rid of those illegal immigrants, it becomes more difficult and It's not going to happen. Who is going to wash the dishes at restaurants? clean toilets at hotels? harvest the crops? All at minimum wage, remember.

GetA Job wrote:

As much as we would love to get rid of those illegal immigrants, it becomes more difficult and It's not going to happen. Who is going to wash the dishes at restaurants? clean toilets at hotels? harvest the crops? All at minimum wage, remember.

You wish it wasn't going to happen. Leave jobs out of it. There's just the fact that they are in the country illegally. Try to go to Germany and wash dishes? You can't because you're illegal.