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Immigration Debate - Alamogordo, NM

Discuss the national Immigration debate in Alamogordo, NM.

Do you support Arizona's immigration law?

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John Nolan

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May 22, 2010
 
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Just me again

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May 22, 2010
 
The law, as written, is full of holes. The Arizona lawmakers did a pretty bad job in drafting it. It will not take long before the US Supreme Court will declare it unconstitutional. Even the amended version is not good enough. There are many hispanics living in Arizona that are there legally and don't speak a word of English. International students attending the UA, mexican visitors with legal visas and time permits, legal permanent resident aliens, and others are going to be targeted by police unjustly. It does not matter how you write the law, it will lead to illegal profiling and widespread discrimination. In a state that has more than 60% hispanics, who do you think the lawmakers are targeting? I'm for legal migration and control of our borders and the federal government has sole control of this issue. Arizona does not stand a chance in keeping this law on the books, period.
Just me again

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May 22, 2010
 
John Nolan wrote:
Arizona State's Rights
The law, as written, is full of holes. The Arizona lawmakers did a pretty bad job in drafting it. It will not take long before the US Supreme Court will declare it unconstitutional. Even the amended version is not good enough. There are many hispanics living in Arizona that are there legally and don't speak a word of English. International students attending the UA, mexican visitors with legal visas and time permits, legal permanent resident aliens, and others are going to be targeted by police unjustly. It does not matter how you write the law, it will lead to illegal profiling and widespread discrimination. In a state that has more than 60% hispanics, who do you think the lawmakers are targeting? I'm for legal migration and control of our borders but the federal government has sole control of this issue. Arizona does not stand a chance in keeping this law on the books, period.
nmsugarbear

Albuquerque, NM

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May 26, 2010
 
if you want to come here, come legally. they would want us to do the same.
angel baby

Albuquerque, NM

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May 27, 2010
 
I think that ARizona needs one because we are so close to the border.
Howie

Alamogordo, NM

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May 29, 2010
 
More Americans would have health care and jobs if it wasn't all going to the illegals. If you want to come here and work, DO IT LEGALLY!!!
Mark

Alamogordo, NM

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Jun 2, 2010
 
YES, no one reads.......it's for ILLEGAL's not LEGAL'S. We go over there like they come here, automatic 2 year prison sentence. Go to France, Italy etc...YOU learn THEIR ways and THEIR language not the other way around!
Mark

Alamogordo, NM

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Jun 2, 2010
 
Just me again wrote:
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The law, as written, is full of holes. The Arizona lawmakers did a pretty bad job in drafting it. It will not take long before the US Supreme Court will declare it unconstitutional. Even the amended version is not good enough. There are many hispanics living in Arizona that are there legally and don't speak a word of English. International students attending the UA, mexican visitors with legal visas and time permits, legal permanent resident aliens, and others are going to be targeted by police unjustly. It does not matter how you write the law, it will lead to illegal profiling and widespread discrimination. In a state that has more than 60% hispanics, who do you think the lawmakers are targeting? I'm for legal migration and control of our borders but the federal government has sole control of this issue. Arizona does not stand a chance in keeping this law on the books, period.
The protesters don't read.......it's for ILLEGAL's not LEGAL'S. We go over there like they come here, automatic 2 year prison sentence. Get caught again, 20 year prison sentence. Get in trouble for anything else, good luck coming home. Go to France, Italy any foreign country...YOU learn THEIR ways and THEIR language not the other way around!
Mark

Alamogordo, NM

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Jun 2, 2010
 
This site is messed up reposting all those
Joe

Albuquerque, NM

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Jun 6, 2010
 
Several high profile crimes committed by illegals in Arizona the past few years shows why more control on this is needed. If the federal government cannot secure the border, why should Arizona suffer? At the same time, I think we need to have an easier way to legally immigrate to the US from Mexico, as there are plenty of honest people in Mexico suffering through hardships in Mexico.
Gorky

Alamogordo, NM

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Jun 8, 2010
 
Call it what you will it's still profiling.
Just me

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Jun 23, 2010
 
It's still a law, and honestly it is a national law that was written years ago, yet Arizona now upholding it is getting on the flack for it.

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Jun 24, 2010
 
Just me again wrote:
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The law, as written, is full of holes. The Arizona lawmakers did a pretty bad job in drafting it. It will not take long before the US Supreme Court will declare it unconstitutional. Even the amended version is not good enough. There are many hispanics living in Arizona that are there legally and don't speak a word of English. International students attending the UA, mexican visitors with legal visas and time permits, legal permanent resident aliens, and others are going to be targeted by police unjustly. It does not matter how you write the law, it will lead to illegal profiling and widespread discrimination. In a state that has more than 60% hispanics, who do you think the lawmakers are targeting? I'm for legal migration and control of our borders but the federal government has sole control of this issue. Arizona does not stand a chance in keeping this law on the books, period.
"Supreme Court will declare it unconstitutional."

The Supreme Court will also have to declare the federal law unconstitutional too, because the AZ law is modeled after it.

"The Constitution does not mention immigration. It does not specify rules for immigration. Article I, Section 8 says:“(Congress shall have the power) To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization,” not regulate or enforce (or not enforce) immigration.

Period.

Beyond that the reader needs to drop down to the 10th Amendment. It reads:“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

In short, dealing with “illegal immigrants”(trespassers) is a duty reserved for the states, not the federal government.

But if you follow the corporate media you wouldn’t know this. You’d think the Constitution protects illegal immigrants."

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Jun 24, 2010
 
Gorky wrote:
Call it what you will it's still profiling.
Profiling law breakers, just don't break the law, it's just that easy.

“The shot heard round the world”

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Jul 29, 2010
 
If you cross our Borders illegally,then your a criminal. Criminals are not welcome here, we already have enough of our own! Our country was founded by Immigrants who came here for freedom, not to free load off of taxpayer's like the illegal's are doing today.
Common

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Jul 29, 2010
 
Patriot 1775 wrote:
If you cross our Borders illegally,then your a criminal. Criminals are not welcome here, we already have enough of our own! Our country was founded by Immigrants who came here for freedom, not to free load off of taxpayer's like the illegal's are doing today.
Food for thought!

Taxes
The Social Security Administration believes that about half of unauthorized immigrants pay Social Security Taxes. A 2005 New York Times piece reported that over 9 million W-2 wage forms with incorrect or false Social Security Numbers were turned into the government in 2002, a reasonable benchmark for the number of undocumented workers. These represented some $56 billion dollars in earnings,$6 billion in Social Security taxes and $1.5 billion for Medicare.

Naturally, the exact tax numbers for illegal immigrants are hard to establish, but at least it is clear they are paying into the system.

Consumption
Something else that many opponents of illegal immigration forget or choose to ignore is the consumer power of this group. UCLA's Raul Hinojosa is quoted in BusinessWeek estimating that "the total goods and services they consume ... plus all they produce for their employers, is close to about $800 billion."

Some argue that much of what illegal immigrants make doesn't benefit the U.S. economy because it is sent back to their families in Mexico and other countries in the form of remittances. Even considering the $42 billion that the World Bank says left the United States (in 2006) as remittances, that is only about 10% of illegal immigrants' wages, says Hinojosa. That leaves about $400-450 billion of that is consumptive capacity staying in the U.S.

Read more at Suite101: The Benefits of Illegal Immigration: Taxes, Consumption, and Labor Dynamism http://americanaffairs.suite101.com/article.c ...

“The shot heard round the world”

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Jul 29, 2010
 

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Jul 29, 2010
 
Common wrote:
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Food for thought!
Taxes
The Social Security Administration believes that about half of unauthorized immigrants pay Social Security Taxes. A 2005 New York Times piece reported that over 9 million W-2 wage forms with incorrect or false Social Security Numbers were turned into the government in 2002, a reasonable benchmark for the number of undocumented workers. These represented some $56 billion dollars in earnings,$6 billion in Social Security taxes and $1.5 billion for Medicare.
Naturally, the exact tax numbers for illegal immigrants are hard to establish, but at least it is clear they are paying into the system.
Consumption
Something else that many opponents of illegal immigration forget or choose to ignore is the consumer power of this group. UCLA's Raul Hinojosa is quoted in BusinessWeek estimating that "the total goods and services they consume ... plus all they produce for their employers, is close to about $800 billion."
Some argue that much of what illegal immigrants make doesn't benefit the U.S. economy because it is sent back to their families in Mexico and other countries in the form of remittances. Even considering the $42 billion that the World Bank says left the United States (in 2006) as remittances, that is only about 10% of illegal immigrants' wages, says Hinojosa. That leaves about $400-450 billion of that is consumptive capacity staying in the U.S.
Read more at Suite101: The Benefits of Illegal Immigration: Taxes, Consumption, and Labor Dynamism http://americanaffairs.suite101.com/article.c ...
SOMETHING TO CHEW ON...

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03993.pdf
Karen Chavez-Henley

Yigo, Guam

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Jul 29, 2010
 
Yes, I support Arizona's immigration law because "No person from another country should be allowed to enter the U.S.A. ILLEGALLY; entering the U.S.A. ILLEGALLY already demonstrates the persons character he or she will continue to "break laws" to get what they want!

The high number of people entering ILLEGALLY need to stay in their own country where they can and should make good and right changes/differences for their future generations instead of abandoning or running away from thier own country's problems, dictators of corruption, bullying, and stand up for themselves and others in regards to "human morals" of right and wrong...

Respectfully,
Mrs. Chavez-Henley
Karen Chavez-Henley

Yigo, Guam

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Jul 29, 2010
 
Yes, I support Arizona's immigration law because "No person from another country should be allowed to enter the U.S.A. ILLEGALLY; entering the U.S.A. ILLEGALLY already demonstrates the persons character that he or she will continue to "break laws" to get what they want!

The high number of people entering ILLEGALLY need to stay in their own country where they can and should make good and right changes/differences for their future generations instead of abandoning or running away from thier own country's problems, dictators of corruption, bullying, and stand up for themselves and others in regards to "human morals" of right and wrong...visit or enter the country legally, please!

Respectfully,
Mrs. Chavez-Henley

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