Immigrant Amnesty Debate - Round Lake Beach, IL

Discuss the national Immigrant Amnesty debate in Round Lake Beach, IL.

Do you support Gingrich's suggestion to grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants with deep roots in the U.S.?

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Since: Jan 10

Chicago, IL

#1 Dec 7, 2011
I agree we need to make them Permanent residents, just not citizens.
Mystery Man

Fox Lake, IL

#2 Dec 7, 2011
What exactly is the difference between Permanent resident and a citizen ?
I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ i just want to know how you different the two in your opinion.

Since: Oct 11

Antioch, IL

#3 Dec 7, 2011
Shouldn't this poll be titled "ILLEGAL Immigrant Amnesty Debate"? After all, that's what we're talking about here, right? There's nothing to debate regarding those immigrants who come here legally. They don't need amnesty. They might welcome it, but as long as they have their visa or green card, they're ok.

With respect to ILLEGAL immigrants, in my opinion, the answer is NO. I don't support it. By coming here illegally, they've already shown a complete disregard for the law. They are already criminals. I don't care if you are an anchor baby or the parents of one, citizenship of the baby should follow that of the parents.

It's ridiculous the way that so many conveniently drop the "illegal" when they are talking about immigration. Could that be because they recognize that it's wrong? Can they garner more sympathy by ignoring that distinction? I refuse to do so, it's an insult to my family and all the others who applied for visas and waited and waited until they had the right to come to America and LEGALLY become a citizen.

Deport them. Mexican, Polish, whatever. If you are here illegally, you should have no rights.
Robert

Fox Lake, IL

#4 Dec 8, 2011
Hard working families that have been here for over 5 years without a criminal conviction are good for economy. There is no Ellis island for Hispanics to come through to enter the US legally. They usually fill the jobs at the lowest level and work there way up the way most of our grandparents did. There is honor in that. They do not take the jobs Americans want. They fill the jobs Americans will not do. America is built on immigrants.
robert

Fox Lake, IL

#5 Dec 8, 2011
After permanent residency is given. The first five years after getting your card to live and work here legally. There should be zero benefits like food stamps, housing assistance or free healthcare. All social security benefits and tax refunds will not kick in until five years have passed. If after five years have passed and you still want to be here you have paid your dues.
Right now the illegal immigrants get more help than most American families. It is the system that is broken.
I know quite a few of Illegal immigrants, They are not bad people they work hard and try to provide for their families just like anyone else. instead of protesting wall street,
I know of one that works 2 jobs each day for a total of 14 hours a day, 5 days a week. He does not have an I phone he doesn't drink lattes he works hard. He knows that working pays the bills not complying waiting for a hand out from wall street.
Its time we talk to our parents and grandparents again and ask what they did when they came to this country. Their stories will sound similar to the new immigrants.
One last thing if you really think they are stealing our jobs then we would not have unemployment so high. Most Americans would not take a minimum wage job even if they have been out of work for 6 months.
uh duh

Round Lake, IL

#6 Dec 8, 2011
They need to be deported and get in line to enter legally. We also need to immediately stop pandering to spanish speakers. No more dual language schooling, no official signage, letters or press 2 for spanish etc. Enough is enough. If you want to come here "like our ancestors" then do so. Sneaking in, having anchor rats and using them to get welfare benefits, while not even bothering to learn the language is infuriating, and the backlash has begun and will only continue.

Since: Oct 11

Antioch, IL

#7 Dec 8, 2011
Robert wrote:
Hard working families that have been here for over 5 years without a criminal conviction are good for economy. There is no Ellis island for Hispanics to come through to enter the US legally. They usually fill the jobs at the lowest level and work there way up the way most of our grandparents did. There is honor in that. They do not take the jobs Americans want. They fill the jobs Americans will not do. America is built on immigrants.
I disagree. Illegally crossing the border and working without a green card or citizenship should qualify for a criminal conviction right there. So no illegal immigrant would meet your criteria, the simple act of being here makes them criminals. There is no honor in that, in my eye.

I'm not saying shut down immigration. I'm saying shut down ILLEGAL immigration. They can still come and do their jobs and enjoy America, AFTER they apply for citizenship and granted the right to live & work here. Cease the flood of illegal immigrants and there will be room for those who follow the legal process. And then they will pay taxes and contribute to their new home country, like the rest of us.

Oh - and add a requirement that they learn ENGLISH. I refuse to learn spanish, and I shouldn't have to "press one for English."
Mystery Man

Fox Lake, IL

#8 Dec 8, 2011
i'm with UH DUH and News Reader on their points.
I'm also bothered by this thinking they take jobs Americas won't do.
Who do you tyhink were doing those jobs before the illegals started doing them ?
Americas have and always will do ANY job that needs to be done.
And we'll do it for a fair pay.
The difference is employers know they can get away with slave labor wages with illegals.
There is a huge difference between a fair based pay and what illegals make.
ANOTHER POINT NOT MENTIONED
What about all the criminals coming into this country and committing crimes ?
Not just the drug trade but the murder, rapes, and robberies.
Our jails are filling up with criminal illegals from mexico.
AMERICAN MAN

Round Lake, IL

#9 Dec 10, 2011
just because you can sneak into my house doesn't make you part of my family !

the people of the united states of America realized the 1st. time amnesty was given it was a Huge Mistake !

there will be NO Amnesty Ever Aging !

go home Illegal's

in the end you will be found and deported.

go back now and start making a life there before the mass of Illegal's flood back to your country
American Man

Round Lake, IL

#10 Feb 29, 2012
It's been done already, the 1986 Amnesty and nothing good came out of that. Tell me what good another one would do? Really

Even Hispanics here are overwhelmed just look at Greenfield Ca (Centeral Coast)...

Greenfield, California has a big problem: it is overrun by illegal aliens.

According to news reports, the destructive impact of thousands of illegals who work at farms and vineyards in this Salinas Valley city, has aroused the outrage of residents, who complain that these newcomers from Mexico are “clustered in overcrowded apartments and garages, throw trash into the streets, throng city parks, hold loud parties and are involved in break-ins.”

So the residents formed groups such as “Beautify Greenfield” and “Save Greenfield” to counter the impact of the illegals, and air their grievances before the City Council, such as that:

The new migrants ruined the town financially,“destroyed” its school system, caused violent crimes and were part of gangs, which are pervasive in the Salinas Valley. The migrants,“invaders from the south,” should be deported.
Predictably, migrant “leaders” and the media called these groups “racist“. But far less predictable is the ethnic makeup of the residents who want these illegals deported.

They are Hispanics. And mostly of Mexican descent.
Joyce

Ingleside, IL

#11 Feb 29, 2012
Law-breakers should not be rewarded . Why have the laws if they are not going to be upheld .
Storm Warning

De Forest, WI

#12 Feb 29, 2012
Illinois has a candidate standing for America support Art Jones for Congress help him now !
http://www.artjonesforcongress.com/War_on_Ter...
American Man

Round Lake, IL

#13 Mar 2, 2012
If illegal aliens were given amnesty and began to pay taxes and use services like households headed by legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual net fiscal deficit would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total net cost of $29 billion.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.h
American Man

Round Lake, IL

#14 Mar 2, 2012
What's Different About Today's Immigration. Many native-born Americans observe that their ancestors came to America and did not place great demands on government services. Perhaps this is true, but the size and scope of government were dramatically smaller during the last great wave of immigration. Not just means-tested programs, but expenditures on everything from public schools to roads were only a fraction of what they are today. Thus, the arrival of unskilled immigrants in the past did not have the negative fiscal implications that it does today. Moreover, the American economy has changed profoundly since the last great wave of immigration, with education now the key determinant of economic success. The costs that unskilled immigrants impose simply reflect the nature of the modern American economy and welfare state. It is doubtful that the fiscal costs can be avoided if our immigration policies remain unchanged.
guesswho

Seattle, WA

#15 Apr 27, 2012
AMERICAN MAN-YOU SOULD LIKE A MEDIA FEED ON A LOOP-AMERICA HAS BEEN AMNESTING MEXICANS SINCE CARTER PUT IHIS "REFUGEE ACT OF 1980" DOES IT LOOK LIKE ITS WORKING? YOU CAN TRY AND RATIONALIZE YOUR OOWN IGNORANCE OF THE SITUATION AND ASSUME MEXICO GIVES TWO TACOS ABOUT YOUR OR AMERICA -ASIDE FROM BEING PAID AS AN EXCLUSIVE SPECIAL RACE TO BE GIVEN CITIZENSHIP,HEALTH CARE,PAID TO HAVE BABIES AT EVEYRONE ELSES EXPENSE YOU MIGHT WANNA BRAG ON THAT TO THE FLEEING MASSES FROM THE SOUTHWEST CURRENTLY RUNNING OVER EACH OTHER TRYING TO OUTRUN THEMSELVES WITH ALL THEIR "COMPASSION" AND SYMPATHY" AND" ENTITLED SPENDING"EVEN WITH THEIR ARROGANT GOD COMPLEX-THIS IS THE REASON WHY THE MEXICANS ARE KICKING THEM OUT
guesswho

Seattle, WA

#16 Apr 27, 2012
AMERICANMAN-AND WHAT DO YOU THINK MEXICO HAS TO OFFER AMERICA? ASIDE FROM CHEAP LABOR? THE JOKES ON YOU MAN -YOUR NICE ENOUGH TO PAY SOMEONE TO ROB YOU THEN REWARD THEM? AND YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA RESPECT YOU? OR AMERICA? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY GIVE TWO SH*** ABOUT YOU? THEY'RE HERE TO TAKE ALBEIT YOU WANNA BELIEVE YOUR "GIVING"
guesswho

Seattle, WA

#17 Apr 27, 2012
AMERICAN MAN-DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY YEAR AND HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS MEXICANS HAVE SENT BACK TO MEXICO? AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THE MONEY THERE? THEY CAN'T WIN TERRITORY THROUGH FORCE SO THEY B.S DIVIDE AND CONQUER "GOOD OL WHITEY" WHO CAN'T WAIT TO GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THEY NEED FOR FREE AND THANK THEM FOR ROBBING THEM AS WELL! AND SINCE NO OTHER RACE WOULD HAVE EVEN CONTEMPLATED THIS NOTION -THIS SETS WHITEY UP AS THE MOST NAIVE GUILLABLE RICH DOPE OF TOOLBAG IN AMERICA
MEANWHILE WHITE PEOPLE ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER WHOS GONNA FINANCE MEXICOS "WELFARE WARRIORS"WITH FRESH TOILET SPACE FOR THEIR CARTEL EXPANSION-KIDNAPPINGS ETC
guesswho

Seattle, WA

#18 Apr 27, 2012
YOU HEAR OF THE KIDNAPPING CASES? RANDOM DECAPITATIONS,MURDERS AND MASS ROBBERIES HAPPENING IN ARIZONA? WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT MESS CAME FROM?
guesswho

Seattle, WA

#19 Apr 27, 2012
NEWSREADER-AND WHAT YOU ARENT AWARE OF CALIFORNIANS BEGGING THEM TO COME TAKE ADVBANTAGE OF ALL THE WONDERFUL BENEFITS AND "OPPORTUNITIES " CALIFORNIA HAS TO OFFER? WHICH IS BASICALLY PAYING MEXICO TO COME AND ROB YOU AND THE KICKER IS GRANTING THEM EXCLUSIVE CITIZENSHIP BASED ON RACE-BECAUSE IF THEY DIDNT THEY WOULD BE CALLED RACISTS!
AND GRACIOUSLY WITH EVERYONES MONEY THEY DID-AND NOW CALIFORNIANS ARE 0N A MASSIVE EXODUS FROM THEIR STATE TO HAPPILY AND OBLIVIOUSLY DUMP THEIR TRASH CAN OF A FEAR INFESTED,CRIME RIDDEN POLICE STATE ON ANYONE WHOS SYMPATHETIC TO THEM--WITH THE USUAL SELF RIGHTEOUS INDIGNANT ENTITLED CALIFORNIA WAY-THAT EVERYONE OWES THEM EVERYTHING(where do you think the mexicans got their train of thought from)
not right

Schaumburg, IL

#20 Apr 30, 2012
Illegal immigrants, you are all criminals and should be locked up. You bring nothing to this great country. Everything about you people is bad for AMERICA. The People of ARIZONA actually have their thinking caps on. Come on already, lets get these law breakers out of this country before they damage it further!

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