Immigrant Amnesty Debate - Pittsfield, MA

Discuss the national Immigrant Amnesty debate in Pittsfield, MA.

Do you support Gingrich's suggestion to grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants with deep roots in the U.S.?

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Justin Pierce

Pittsfield, MA

#1 Feb 8, 2012
Yes, if they come forward and apply for a citizenship, they should be granted an expedited citizenship. This would save the country money in the fact that we wont have to waste resources deporting them and it would be another person paying taxes on their income in a legal and documented manner.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#2 Feb 9, 2012
Justin Pierce wrote:
Yes, if they come forward and apply for a citizenship, they should be granted an expedited citizenship. This would save the country money in the fact that we wont have to waste resources deporting them and it would be another person paying taxes on their income in a legal and documented manner.
Where does it stop? How many illegal aliens will come forward and when do you say, that's enough? There are 6.5 billion people outside of the US, can they all become citizens? You haven't thought this thing through have you? They will flood our schools, hospitals, where are all of these people going to work? Our social safety nets will be broken. Where does any enforcement come in? And yet they still keep coming.

Now we will waste resources because most will be on welfare and having children. Paying taxes? There are not any jobs to get money to pay any taxes.
Justin Pierce

Pittsfield, MA

#3 Feb 14, 2012
spytheweb wrote:
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Where does it stop? How many illegal aliens will come forward and when do you say, that's enough? There are 6.5 billion people outside of the US, can they all become citizens? You haven't thought this thing through have you? They will flood our schools, hospitals, where are all of these people going to work? Our social safety nets will be broken. Where does any enforcement come in? And yet they still keep coming.
Now we will waste resources because most will be on welfare and having children. Paying taxes? There are not any jobs to get money to pay any taxes.
Well you're not getting the whole picture either. More people means more demand. More demand means more spending. More spending means more production. More production is more jobs. Its a cycle that has proven itself for years. As for 6.5 billion people outside of our country, do you honestly think that the whole world is going to come to America to leech off our safety net? There are many countries in the world that are considered better to live in than America at this time. Those places include two of the most populated places in the world: Japan and China. There are a host of European countries that are fiscally better off than America as well. Obviously, with an increase of fluidity in our immigration laws, we will see more people. With that said, it will even out in the long run. People will not just keep pouring into our country forever.
Dio

Easthampton, MA

#4 Feb 14, 2012
The demand and spending is exactly what's killing us. Decades ago we were all brainwashed into thinking debt and materiality was the way and here we are, broke. To work and get enough money just to get by while the top tier control and own everything. As a family, we were all drawn away from the dinner table and out the door to pay for wars we don't need and big got along with the corporate shills. The Indians warned us but nobody listened. Extortion everywhere.
Dio

Easthampton, MA

#5 Feb 14, 2012
Should say "big govt".
guesswho

Seattle, WA

#6 Feb 16, 2012
MEXICO HAS "CHEAP LABOR" NOT "HARDER WORKERS"! OTHER THAN THAT MEXICO HAS NOTHING TO OFFER AMERICA BUT TO TAKE(UM JUST LOOK AT TEXAS,ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA) THIS IS A WAR FOR TERRITORY-MEXICO THINKS STEALING SOMEONE ELSE "AMERICAN DREAM" WHICH THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE OR WHAT TO DO WITH IS THEIR ENTITLEMENT FOR BEING "MEXICAN"P? AND UNLIKE THE REST OF AMERICA THEY ARE "HUMAN" AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROCREATE?
WHAT A BUNCH OF B.S.
Operation Wet back

United States

#7 Feb 17, 2012
Yes we can!!!

Deport them all!!!

Since: May 08

United States

#8 Feb 17, 2012
Justin Pierce wrote:
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Well you're not getting the whole picture either. More people means more demand. More demand means more spending. More spending means more production. More production is more jobs. Its a cycle that has proven itself for years. As for 6.5 billion people outside of our country, do you honestly think that the whole world is going to come to America to leech off our safety net? There are many countries in the world that are considered better to live in than America at this time. Those places include two of the most populated places in the world: Japan and China. There are a host of European countries that are fiscally better off than America as well. Obviously, with an increase of fluidity in our immigration laws, we will see more people. With that said, it will even out in the long run. People will not just keep pouring into our country forever.
We already are broke. There are already more people on entitlements than those who make the money to support them. And that is what the illegals here now are costing us. So we should invite more?????? BTW..if there are so many countries better than the US to live in perhaps you should think about emigrating to one of them. Sure don't want you to have to live here since it is so bad.
Also...people have been pouring in since 1620...hasn't evened out yet.
g. washington

Williamstown, MA

#9 Feb 17, 2012
All immagrants should have to go through what our parents and grandparents had to go through to become citizens to fully appriciate the freedoms of the USA and how they were fought for.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#10 Feb 18, 2012
Justin Pierce wrote:
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Well you're not getting the whole picture either. More people means more demand. More demand means more spending. More spending means more production. More production is more jobs. Its a cycle that has proven itself for years. As for 6.5 billion people outside of our country, do you honestly think that the whole world is going to come to America to leech off our safety net? There are many countries in the world that are considered better to live in than America at this time. Those places include two of the most populated places in the world: Japan and China. There are a host of European countries that are fiscally better off than America as well. Obviously, with an increase of fluidity in our immigration laws, we will see more people. With that said, it will even out in the long run. People will not just keep pouring into our country forever.


We have millions out of work, how much are they spending? Let's just import more surplus labors who will work for half as much money and be subsidized with welfare.

"As for 6.5 billion people outside of our country, do you honestly think that the whole world is going to come to America to leech off our safety net?"

Why not? America makes it so easy. The government guarantees a education for anyone who reaches our shore whether legal or not. America takes in 1 million immigrants a year plus 300,000-400,000 children are born to illegal aliens. If one half of a percent of the world's population find their way here, that's 30 million people.

Just look at how the states are running out of money. If the world or US banks fold, who do you think are going to be the last ones getting anything? All non US citizens and things will get ugly very fast. We can no longer afford to support illegal foreigners and their children.

So you think if our population hits, say a billion people, our economy will be buzzing along huh? Triple our population and triple our unemployment and debt also the strain of social services. 50% of immigrant families are now using some sort of welfare, so triple that? Classroom sizes, health care too. Crime, Hispanics commit over 50% of felonies now and that's legal and illegal.

If the economy and debt can not be controlled now, how will it be by increasing the population?

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#11 Feb 18, 2012
Dio wrote:
The demand and spending is exactly what's killing us. Decades ago we were all brainwashed into thinking debt and materiality was the way and here we are, broke. To work and get enough money just to get by while the top tier control and own everything. As a family, we were all drawn away from the dinner table and out the door to pay for wars we don't need and big got along with the corporate shills. The Indians warned us but nobody listened. Extortion everywhere.
The US exported their manufacturing base, we don't make anything anymore. Any tech job can be done outside of the country by someone will will accept a third of the money to do it.

What jobs remain in country they are trying to import Mexicans to do them.
guesswho

Seattle, WA

#12 Feb 23, 2012
G WASHINGTON-YEAH THIS IS WHY ITS SUCH AN UNCONTROLLABLE MESS -BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN FREE CITIZENSHIP BASED SOLEY ON RACE-ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER BENEFIT MOST AMEIRCANS DON'T EVEN GET-AND EVEN AFTER CALIFORNIANS IN ALL THEIR "ENTITLED MARTYRDOM" OF SPENDING EVERYONE ELSE MONEY TO FINANCE THE EXPANSION THEN MOVE BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO LAZY TO MOW THEIR OWN LAWNS BABYSIT THEIR OWN KIDS ETC. NOW CALIFORNIANS ARE RUNNING FOR THE HILLS ASSUMING EVERYONE IS SUPPOSED TO WELCOME THEM WITH OPEN ARMS -ALONG WITH THEIR FEAR INFESTED,TRASHED OUT MINORITY RACIST NURTURING CRIME INFESTED POLICE STATE?BECAUSE THE MEXICANS ARE KICKING THEM OUT!
AND NOW MEXICO JUDGES ALL AMERICANS ON THIS -AND BECAUSE OF THIS "OOOPS I'M SORRY" AMERICANS ARE LOOKED AT WITH CONTEMPT AND DESPISED AND WILL BE ROBBED AND TAKEN FOR EVERYTHING THEY CAN GET!
guesswho

Seattle, WA

#13 Feb 23, 2012
G WASHINGTON-I DIDN'T REALIZE MEXICANS WERE THE CHOSEN RAZA! THAT MUST BE WHY THE BRAINWASHED TEXANS,ARIZONANS AND CALIFORNIANS ARE RUNNING TO HIDE OUT IN FREE STATES NOW(although california is totally like the best place ever to live,no racism,just love and wonderfulness)???WTF?
guesswho

Seattle, WA

#14 Feb 23, 2012
MEXICO HAS BEEN DEPENDENT ON AMERICA FOR THE PAST 200 YEARS ANYWAYS-THING IS THEY GET ALL THE BENEFITS WITH NONE OF THE LIABLITIES OR RESPONSIBLITIES OF FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS-TECHNICALLY A "PARASITE" WITH NO POSITIVE ATTRIBUTES TO OFFER AMERICA BUT "CHEAP LABOR" AND EXPANSION OF DRUG,HUMAN KIDNAPPING SLAVERY RINGS,AND GETTING PAID TO PROCREATE WARFARE-THIS IS NOT SOME "HUMANATARIAN EFFORT" THIS IS A ONE SIDED WAR -AMERICANS JUST CAN'T CONTEMPLATE IT,OR IMAGINE WHY?AND ASSUME MEXICO GIVES A TOSS ABOUT THEM IN ANY OTHER WAY BUT TO EXPAND THEIR MESS AND GET PAID FOR IT-THEY MUST BE SPECIAL!
Dave Casey

Clifton Park, NY

#15 Feb 23, 2012
Cause I DON<T
GUESSWHO

Seattle, WA

#16 Mar 13, 2012
THIS IS IS THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GIVE AMERICA AWAY FOR FREE TO ONE SPECIAL "RACE"P
FINANCE A RACE WAR THEN MOVE FROM YOUR STATE AND LET EVEYONR ELSE PAY FOR THE DAMAGES?
HEY YA PAY SOMEONE TO ROB YA -DOM'T BE SURPRISED WHEN THEY DO BUT DON'T EXPECT ANY RESPECT OR GRATFUL APPRECIATION !!WTF?
Dio

Easthampton, MA

#17 Mar 13, 2012
The Dems need all the votes they can get so Hillary says there is a war against women and now, when things are lookin bad again, $4 gas, look for the Libs ace in the hole. The race card, comin soon to an msnbc near you.

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#18 Mar 15, 2012
IN WHAT DIMENSION DOES ANYONE THINK MEXICO HAS ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO OFFER AMERICA? ASIDE FROM CHEAP LABOR?
Dio

Easthampton, MA

#19 Mar 15, 2012
orkin33 wrote:
IN WHAT DIMENSION DOES ANYONE THINK MEXICO HAS ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO OFFER AMERICA? ASIDE FROM CHEAP LABOR?
Drugs and violence, which in the eyes of a polititian is job security for law enforcement as well as votes for Democrats.

Thank you!
Dio

Easthampton, MA

#20 Mar 15, 2012
Not all Mexicans, I must point out.

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